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IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« on: March 05, 2017, 05:45:00 PM »
Im new to this forum and new to video poker machines, could someone please help me identify the model of my machine? I know that its a 1978 Fortune but dont know the model. Im trying identify it so that i can try to fix it. Thanks in advance

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2017, 07:31:11 PM »
Looks to be a Fortune 1, made by IGT..
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2017, 09:14:54 PM »
Yep, that gold colored tray above the monitor says it is a Fortune I. Just hope it is a Ceronix monitor (easy to fix) and not the older Sony TV conversion monitor (hard to fix).
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2017, 09:27:05 PM »
Its a Ceronix monitor. Im new to poker machines, and i just got this fortune 1 machine today and it powers on all lights light up and monitor comesbon to a blue screen but nothing else shows on the screen, cooling fan isnt coming on, and when i drop a quarter it falls into the payout slot not the hopper. Any help would be very appreciated

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2017, 09:56:35 PM »
you might want to power off the machine a try removing the circuit board above the monitor.. Clean the edge connections with a pink eraser then reinstall it.. You might also want to do the same to the ceronix chassis connection plugs.. But DO NOT touch or remove the one going to the monitor,  that's high voltage and unless you have done it before don't mess with it.. There are two or 3 small plugs on the ceronix chassis that you can check..
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2017, 10:01:06 PM »
Ill try that tonight and let you know how that work out. Thanks a million

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2017, 11:46:47 PM »
Now i can see the cards and what is supposed to be the wording on screen but they seem to ve tilted at a extreme slant, and horozontally scrolling and really light in appearance. When i adjust the picture using the adjustment knobs above the monitor and i get the scrollingbto slow down and almost stop, i cant get the extreme slant out of it. Then the scrolling starts again. I know that im doing something wrong i just cant figure out what. And its driving me crazy.

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2017, 12:40:25 AM »
It could be that the horizontal signal going to the monitor is weak due to a bad connection on the plug that connects to the bottom of the monitor.
It could be the connector that plugs into the back plane board has come loose (marked "video"). Check that it is securely connected.
Try cleaning that connector with cleaner (even foaming glass cleaner will work in a pinch) and brushing the pins with a nylon brush.

It could also be the clock circuit on the MPU board. They do tend to fail due to a weak IC at location D10.
Or it could be the 7407 driver chip, near the color controls on the MPU, is weak or it's legs are corroded, pull it out, clean it, and plug back in.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #8 on: March 06, 2017, 12:22:41 PM »
Does any one know how to test for a bad clock circuit on my Fortune 1 video poker machine?

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #9 on: March 06, 2017, 12:25:19 PM »
I am not sure but badbaud should chime in shortly and help you out.  Welcome to the forum.


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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #10 on: March 06, 2017, 12:27:28 PM »
Thanks for the welcome. Everybody is awesomebon here. I love it. Lol

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #11 on: March 06, 2017, 12:57:14 PM »
Does any one know how to test for a bad clock circuit on my Fortune 1 video poker machine?
In the shop that would normally be done with a frequency counter or an o'scope. The clock signal is what sets the timing for all the other cpu circuits so it is checked for the right freq plus a good clean signal without any ringing or transients that could cause erratic operation of the chips connected to it.

Without this type of test equip I guess you could measure it with a voltmeter to see if something was present on the test point. This isn't the best way since it is limited on what it can tell you. If the clock is a 0 to 5 volt signal you will see about 2.5 volts dc (provided the clock is a symmetrical signal, many but not all of them are).

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #12 on: March 06, 2017, 01:26:13 PM »
Thanks, for confusing the hell out of me. Lol. Guess that means ill just have to send it in to be checked.

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #13 on: March 06, 2017, 01:36:53 PM »
Thanks, for confusing the hell out of me. Lol. Guess that means ill just have to send it in to be checked.

well, I didn't know what kind of troubleshooting experience you have so I just answered your question straight-up.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #14 on: March 06, 2017, 04:23:09 PM »
Sorry, i didnt mean to sound unappreciative, i am very much so, i just meant that your answer showed me that this was beyond my scope of knowledge :Scratch-Head: . Lol. I can use a multi meter but dont own or know how to use a oscilloscope.  I think i may study up on that and possibly get a scope. Knowledge is power, im a firm believer in that. Thank you so much.

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #15 on: March 06, 2017, 04:36:29 PM »
JuJu:


Dont feel bad.  I get dumbfounded by the answers of these experts all of the time.  That is how a have learned a lot from these guys and gals.  When all else fails send the board out to Larry Weber and Allen for EXPERT service.


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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #16 on: March 06, 2017, 04:55:41 PM »
What leads you to believe it's a "bad clock circuit?"
Can you just describe the problem to us? Are there any error codes? Is there a picture, etc? That might be a better way to start troubleshooting without having to just send the board out.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #17 on: March 06, 2017, 05:39:51 PM »
Im not sure if it is the clock circuit, Badbaud made several suggestions and that was one of them. The problem is my fortune 1 comes on ( lights and screen for sure) but the screen is scrolling bad and the image is tilted really bad and adjusting screen helps a little until i take my hand of the adjustment pot knob then it scrolls like crazy. The card images get really small from the tilting. The lockout solenoid wont cut on to allow coins to the hopper, the coins just fall to the payout tray and my cooling fan isnt working. So i dont know if its all related or not. Machine worked a year ago just fine but after being turned off and unplugged for a year it is acting crazy now. And its driving me crazy. :banghead:
So im trying everything that everybody suggests to fix it

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #18 on: March 06, 2017, 05:49:27 PM »
Here is ther best photo i can take
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #19 on: March 06, 2017, 05:55:37 PM »
Im not sure if it is the clock circuit, Badbaud made several suggestions and that was one of them. The problem is my fortune 1 comes on ( lights and screen for sure) but the screen is scrolling bad and the image is tilted really bad and adjusting screen helps a little until i take my hand of the adjustment pot knob then it scrolls like crazy. The card images get really small from the tilting. The lockout solenoid wont cut on to allow coins to the hopper, the coins just fall to the payout tray and my cooling fan isnt working. So i dont know if its all related or not. Machine worked a year ago just fine but after being turned off and unplugged for a year it is acting crazy now. And its driving me crazy. :banghead:
So im trying everything that everybody suggests to fix it

Since you have an image on your crt screen (monitor) I'd think the mpu (main logic board in the machine) is hopefully ok, that your crt screen needs work. It isn't uncommon for the old monitors to need a "cap job", which is replacing several of the old larger capacitors on the monitor circuit board. Or there could be something else on the monitor that has gone bad. The video signal does come from the mpu board in the machine, so if you send it out to get checked and repaired they will tell you if it is ok or not. Then you'll know if the monitor has a problem.

The cooling fan is a separate problem, it's probably just old and worn. You might be able to put a drop of lightweight oil on its spindle and get it to going. But honestly you probably don't need a cooling fan for that machine in your home and having it not running will make things a little quieter. If you do want to get it running post a photo of it and we can tell you how to try to get it going. Or you can just get a new fan and replace it, they come in lots of different sizes and operating voltages but you can likely find one that will work ok. But like I said, I don't think you even need a fan, many home owners unplug them. So I'd worry about the fan after everything else is fixed.

I'm not sure about the lockout solenoid and what it takes to activate it, but I don't think it has anything to do with a screwy image on the monitor screen.

If you have a meter you can start by measuring the power supply voltages to see if they are correct. And you can check as many of the connectors as you can for being loose, tarnished, broken wires, etc. Do a good visual inspection, post a photo of anything you are not sure about.

Does your mpu board have a battery that could have leaked onto the board? That's a bad thing to happen so be sure to check for that. Post a photo of your mpu board so we can look it over.

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