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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => CEI and Cal Omega Video Poker Games => Topic started by: Justin on September 18, 2017, 01:34:50 PM
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I recently found a Cal Omega poker game on craigslist the person I purchased it from said he removed the monitor for a different game. He also said that I could just put an old computer monitor in it because it used to have an LCD one. My board says "922 BOARD REV B 8200250 serial no 1053. The board is missing EPR 1 & 2. But I have no idea how to hookup the monitor. Please help me.
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The Cal/Omega machines are old enough that I'm not sure about your machine ever having an LCD monitor display. Maybe you mean that he said you could use an old CGA CRT monitor?
Can you post a few photos of your machine, especially the video cable that would go to the monitor?
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Here are the pictures, also the connector I am only assuming that it is video because they are the only two unused.
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There's a chance it was modified for an LCD. Can you call the craigslist guy and ask? That would be great if you could put an LCD back in it but I kind of doubt it. They look great.
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He didn't seem to know anything he just had a garage with a bunch of machines and had to clear it out.
If only I could find some type of pinout I could make a video connector
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Can you post an entire picture of your MPU board?
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Here is the picture of the MPU
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You mentioned the missing EPR1 and EPR2 chips, I don't think that is a problem. The EPR1 thru EPR5 sockets are for eproms that contain the particular game software for the machine, like different versions of video poker, blackjack, keno, etc. If I'm remembering right not all games used all of the sockets, it depends on how many chips are in the game software. So those empty sockets are probably not used for whatever game your machine is.
I brightened your photo a little so I could see some details.
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Thank You! Any idea on the video connector.
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Can you look on your mpu board and find the part number for it? There were a few different ones, with the part number we might find some drawing or information. Unfortunately these machines were not as widespread in their use as others like IGT and Bally so there is less info on them. That plus they are fairly old, your machine is from the early 1980's I believe, so a lot of the guys that knew something about them are gone.
***EDIT*** I reread your first message and saw that you already gave the part number for the mpu, I guess I missed that on the first reading.
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The board is 922 Rev B, serial number 1053
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ok, I'll do some looking. Is the 922 the last 3 digits of the part number? Seems like it should be a longer number for a circuit board.
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Also, is there another circuit board inside the machine, called the "motherboard", that has several connectors? It is usually mounted vertically on the back wall. If so post a photo of it and tell us the part number on it. On many of the Cal/Omega machines the video display connector is on the motherboard.
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Here are pictures of the complete inside of the machine. (All that is in it)
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Was the mpu board installed in the machine and had cables connected to it when you got the machine? It looks like someone added a power supply (gray box with the ac power line connection) at some time. Is there an idplate on the side of the machine?
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Thank You! Any idea on the video connector.
If is is like other older Cal/Omega machines the video connector will have 3 video signals (Red, Green, Blue), and it will have vert sync and horiz sync. There is also a composite video signal on some Cal/Omega machines, it was used for composite crt displays. But I haven't found a schematic or pinout. The connector that you think is video (the one with 6 wires), where on the mpu does the other end of it connect? The unused 2 wire connector might be for power going to the monitor, like 115 vac. Where does the other end of it connect?
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No id plate. The power supply was added because someone added an aftermarket coin door that needed 12v for the lights. The MPU was in it with wires connected an the board number also had 8200250.
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The MPU also had R, G, B labeled potentiometers.
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Odd there is no idplate, do you see where it used to be mounted with screws or rivets? Is it possible this is a MAME or arcade cabinet that someone installed the mpu and display screen into? Or does it look like an original casino slot machine?
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The connector connects in the top left corner of the picture that is posted with this.
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The MPU also had R, G, B labeled potentiometers.
Those would be for setting the RGB drive signal levels. Those pots are often near the video output connector.
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It looks like an original casino machine the control panel has the original coin entry and fits perfectly in the cabinet, some picture of other cal omega games look like this or similar.
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The connector connects in the top left corner of the picture that is posted with this.
And that connector has 6 wires? What is the board designation for that connector? (J102 for example)
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It does look similar to other cal omega games and looks like an original casino machine.
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It looks like an original casino machine the control panel has the original coin entry and fits perfectly in the cabinet, some picture of other cal omega games look like this or similar.
ok, just thinking of all the possibilities.
I'm not a Cal/Omega expert, they are all 98 years old I'm afraid. :garfield:
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It is J205
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If that 6 wire connector is the video connector you could probably trace the Red, Green and Blue wires back to the RGB pots on the board by using a meter (multimeter with ohms/continuity function). Make notes, and this would at least have those 3 wires on the connector identified. And if one of the wires is ground that would only leave 2 other wires to identify, one is probably vert sync and the other horiz sync.
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What chip should I do continuity to?
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Just so that you know Tomorrow I go to school from 8:00AM to 3:00PM EST.
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Here is what I got, I have to go to bed now. :( I will be back on in the morning.
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In your connector drawing does the "red", "green" etc labels mean the red video signal, or the color of the wire? Perhaps it means both, Cal/Omega may have cleverly used a red wire for the Red video signal, a blue wire for the Blue video signal, etc. Black is often used for a ground in DC circuits (but black is used to mean the HOT wire in a/c voltage wiring). So that would leave the orange and the yellow wire for the sync signals, vert and horiz.
I think you have enough info that you can try making a video cable connection to an LCD screen if you want to. You know which wires are the Red, Blue, Green and Ground signals. The only 2 wires not identified on your machine's video cable are the orange and the yellow wires, and they are probably the vertical and horizontal sync wires. You will need a connector or way to connect the 6 wires to the LCD video input. When you connect them you could try connecting the orange and yellow wires one way, see if you get a display, if not you could switch the orange and yellow wires around and try again. You will need the pinout for the video connector on the LCD or whatever RGB monitor you use. Something to be aware of, some monitors use negative sync signals and some use positive sync signals. I don't know what the Cal/Omega mpu board uses, but your choice of display monitors will need to match. If that guy that sold the machine to you could let you know what display screen was in your machine that could be helpful.
In an earlier message posting shortrackskater said that another member here on NLG might have the schematic drawings for your machine. Let's see if that works out, I've gone about as far as I can for now, but if something occurs to me I will post again.
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This is just a guess. But, if you look at the IC in position U34 it will be marked HS & VS on either side. I would try to trace those two wires back to one of those legs. If they go there it's a good bet that it's your horizontal and vertical sync.
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This is just a guess. But, if you look at the IC in position U34 it will be marked HS & VS on either side. I would try to trace those two wires back to one of those legs. If they go there it's a good bet that it's your horizontal and vertical sync.
Thank you but, neither of the unlabeled connections have continuity to hs and vs on u34.
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In your connector drawing does the "red", "green" etc labels mean the red video signal, or the color of the wire? Perhaps it means both, Cal/Omega may have cleverly used a red wire for the Red video signal, a blue wire for the Blue video signal, etc. Black is often used for a ground in DC circuits (but black is used to mean the HOT wire in a/c voltage wiring). So that would leave the orange and the yellow wire for the sync signals, vert and horiz.
I think you have enough info that you can try making a video cable connection to an LCD screen if you want to. You know which wires are the Red, Blue, Green and Ground signals. The only 2 wires not identified on your machine's video cable are the orange and the yellow wires, and they are probably the vertical and horizontal sync wires. You will need a connector or way to connect the 6 wires to the LCD video input. When you connect them you could try connecting the orange and yellow wires one way, see if you get a display, if not you could switch the orange and yellow wires around and try again. You will need the pinout for the video connector on the LCD or whatever RGB monitor you use. Something to be aware of, some monitors use negative sync signals and some use positive sync signals. I don't know what the Cal/Omega mpu board uses, but your choice of display monitors will need to match. If that guy that sold the machine to you could let you know what display screen was in your machine that could be helpful.
In an earlier message posting shortrackskater said that another member here on NLG might have the schematic drawings for your machine. Let's see if that works out, I've gone about as far as I can for now, but if something occurs to me I will post again.
The Red Blue and Green marked wires are the one for the potentiometer. and Ground goes to ground. By video connector would you mean vga
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Not sure about the vga connector, it has about 15 pins, don't know if you could use just 6 of them for your purpose. Don't some LCD displays have RGB inputs? That's a different method of getting video signals into the display. For a display monitor I don't think an RGB video input is the same as a VGA input, although there may be a way to make it work. Someone that has done a conversion to a machine to change the display to an LCD might know. That's why I said earlier if the guy you bought it from could at least say what kind of display was in it you'd have an idea. I don't want to guess and steer you in the wrong direction.
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This is just a guess. But, if you look at the IC in position U34 it will be marked HS & VS on either side. I would try to trace those two wires back to one of those legs. If they go there it's a good bet that it's your horizontal and vertical sync.
Thank you but, neither of the unlabeled connections have continuity to hs and vs on u34.
There may be some parts (capacitors, other ic's, etc) on the mpu board that are connected between the VS and HS outputs of u34 and the yellow and orange wires on your connector. U34 may be where the sync signals are made but the signals may need to go thru other components before going off the board in the yellow and orange wires.
That's why the schematic drawing for your mpu board would be very helpful.
Can you read the writing on the back of u34 and post it, that way we can get info on that chip. The photo is not clear enough to read it.
Just to make sure I understood what you said earlier, there is no other circuit boards inside the machine? It only had this mpu board and a gray power supply box, plus that large transformer in the bottom of the machine? Does this transformer wiring connect to anything, or has it been disconnected and the gray power supply is taking its place? Also, all those pushbuttons on the front of the machine, where do the wires from all of them connect to?
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Component video use three separate connectors for rgb.Right now I am on the bus but I think the output of the bottom transformer goes the the mpu and the grey after market power supply
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610asthe u34 chip is sn74ls86an
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Ok, I am really stupid but the big buck hunter machine i got really big one. had the same connector on the crt and it also had a pinout next to it, Sorry for wasting your time. Also I need just a tiny bit more help. I connected the video connector to a vga connector with wires and it gets the video signal but says it can display it. I figure it is too low resolution for an LCD monitor.
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Might you need a VGA to LCD converter since this game at one time might have had a CRT monitor?
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I have a crt monitor will it work on that
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Is your big buck hunter machine have a CRT or LCD?
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Crt, and where could I find files to write to to eproms to put in one and two. Or where can I buy eproms
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Some of the folks here might have Cal Omega game files to load into eproms, you'd just have to ask about that and see if anyone responds. These game software files are sometimes called binary files, or bin files, or binaries by various people, just in case you see them referred to that way. To load them into an eprom you will need an eprom programmer. These eprom programmers are often called "burners", they connect to a computer and you transfer the game software file from the computer to the eprom programmer and it "burns" (loads) the software into the eprom. There are many eprom programmers for sale, here is one example:
http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_dynamicIndex.asp (http://www.mcumall.com/comersus/store/comersus_dynamicIndex.asp)
Also, there is a hobby called "MAME" where the guys take old arcade game software like PacMan, Galaxian, etc and they load the games onto eproms for use in an arcade game they build or buy. Some of the MAME websites post all of those game software files for download, and many include games like Cal Omega video poker. So you can probably find some Cal Omega software files at a MAME website, you'd just have to search the internet for that. Here is one example of a MAME website with Cal Omega game software files to download (scroll down to the bottom part of their webpage screen):
https://www.emuparadise.me/M.A.M.E._-_Multiple_Arcade_Machine_Emulator_ROMs/Cal_Omega_-_Game_7.6_(Arcade_Poker)/11966 (https://www.emuparadise.me/M.A.M.E._-_Multiple_Arcade_Machine_Emulator_ROMs/Cal_Omega_-_Game_7.6_(Arcade_Poker)/11966)
The eproms themselves can be bought at various places, however the ones used on your mpu may be fairly old-style and not readily available. When you buy eprom chips like this they will be unprogrammed (called empty or blank) so you will need to program them yourself. Look on the back of your eprom for the mfr part number, it will be something like "2732" or "2516" or similar. Or post a closeup photo and we can identify it. You can't just use any eprom chip, it has to be compatible with your mpu. Older style eproms can be bought on ebay. Also, here is a place that I have used:
http://www.epromman.com/ (http://www.epromman.com/)
If you are lucky someone will have some Cal Omega game eproms that are already programmed, they would be sold to you as a set since you'd need all of chips to plug into your mpu. Sometimes people take apart a machine and sell the parts from it, including the game software chips.
Your game eproms on your mpu now may be ok, I'd suggest you get your machine working with the display problem fixed before going into game software replacement, unless you think your game chips are bad.
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Thanks, anywhere I can get a cheap replacement monitor for my CRT.
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Maybe that guy you got the machine from has some parts or maybe he has a bad machine that has a display you can use? When you bought the machine with no display from him what was the plan, did he give you any suggestions?
You can try searching thru the discussion threads here on NLG, see if there is information about converting a machine from RGB type display to an LCD. Or there may be a converter box that takes RGB input and has VGA output, that would probably let you connect your machine to just about any LCD screen. Then you'd just have to get an LCD display of the correct size to fit the opening in your machine. Look for something like this video converter board, it might do what you need and the cost isn't too bad:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBJCAIG/ref=s9_acsd_simh_hd_bw_b1Avd_c_x_1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-11&pf_rd_r=KJ823E53GYJEXQH866RJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=bd3f8f0b-0dd6-50d5-b530-c30b0af28ad9&pf_rd_i=280341 (https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IBJCAIG/ref=s9_acsd_simh_hd_bw_b1Avd_c_x_1_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-11&pf_rd_r=KJ823E53GYJEXQH866RJ&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=bd3f8f0b-0dd6-50d5-b530-c30b0af28ad9&pf_rd_i=280341)
Something to be aware of- because someone removed the display from your machine that may be because your machine wasn't working when they did that, so something could be wrong with the mpu board. That's an unknown at this time but you should be aware of it. It doesn't seem likely they would have taken a display from a good working machine, although it might have happened. That guy you bought it from may have some of these answers for you.
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Sorry, I dont remenber if I posted this but the machine worked with my bigbuck hunter crt screen and I played some poker with it problem free.
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If this were mine, I think I would look in going the route of a LCD monitor with a VGA to LCD adapter board. The chance of you finding a good working CRT and chassis seems slim, unless the is a person or place that sells and service video arcade games in your area. They might have a working CRT, but it may have an image burnt into the screen from the game it was removed from. If you do have a person or place near you, they might be able to help with the conversion to LCD?
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Sorry, I dont remenber if I posted this but the machine worked with my bigbuck hunter crt screen and I played some poker with it problem free.
That's really good news, sounds like your machine just needs a display. As Amechanic said, you might be able to find another crt display that will work, if you live in a bigger city there may be a place that repairs arcade equipment, slot machines, computers, etc and they might have one. Or you might be able to get one over the internet, like from ebay, but the shipping cost could add up to more than you want to spend.
I'd evaluate the cost and hassle of getting a crt display (RGB type ??) and compare it to the cost of converting it to LCD. There are smaller LCD displays that are not too costly.
How much did the Cal Omega machine cost you? If it wasn't too much then whatever you spend to get a display will still be an acceptable investment in a game machine that is fun.
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Ok, I am really stupid but the big buck hunter machine i got really big one. had the same connector on the crt and it also had a pinout next to it, Sorry for wasting your time. Also I need just a tiny bit more help. I connected the video connector to a vga connector with wires and it gets the video signal but says it can display it. I figure it is too low resolution for an LCD monitor.
I reread this earlier post you made but still don't understand it completely. Can you go into more detail about what you did here and what you are saying? Remember, we aren't there to see what you are talking about, we only have your written words so it is important that you explain as fully as you can.
Pictures are great at helping us to know what you have there. Maybe post a photo of the big buck hunter crt showing its cable or connector that you used on the Cal Omega machine. And that diagram you mentioned that is on or near the big buck hunter crt that shows the pinout. Post as many photos as you want to.
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i got a double up cal omega the great and they invented double up ck me on that
Can you post a photo of your mpu (the main circuit board)? That could be helpful to others. Thanks!
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So sorry about the late response.
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When I bought the Double Up Poker machine the man selling them also gave me a Silver Strike Bowling Machine with no monitor, A big buck hunter machine with 35" crt monitor(two Pieces) with no game boards, and the Golden Tee 2004 Fore Screen. I looked on the back of the big buck hunter screen and realized that there is a video connector on the chassis the same as the one on the Double Up Poker machine. There was also a sticker next to the connector that gave two letter abbreviations of each of the pins on the connector. The sticker with the pinout also matched the pinout I constructed with a multimeter on the Game Board of the Poker machine. I hooked the video connector of the Poker Machine to the connector on the 35" crt for Big Buck Hunter and the Picture from cal omega Double up poker showed up. Now I need the front glass for double up poker and a monitor or at least the size the monitor needs to be. A manual would also be nice.
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Here are some pictures.
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Here is a link to a video of it working
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0-SND1UKo3MOVJSa1Y0cktkcmM/view?usp=sharing
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That's very good progress from where you started with this project. What is next - finding a monitor the right size to fit the Cal-Omega cabinet?
Did you see the recent posting about a Ceronix crt monitor for sale?
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=16325.msg93039#msg93039 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=16325.msg93039#msg93039)
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That is just a forum helping someone with a monior. Not for sale?
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That is just a forum helping someone with a monior. Not for sale?
NLG member Jim at Midwest Slots has a monitor for sale, did you see his posting (shown below)?
I have brand new 1493 chassis available for sale, these were factory set for 220 volts, Lisa had a tech tell me what had to be done to them to convert them to 120, I think it was to remove a couple of diodes??
50.00 plus the shipping.
Jim
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Ohh. That is just the chassis, right?
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Hmm, I took it to be the whole display but maybe not. You can send him a pm to double-check. Even if it isn't complete he might have a display for your machine, doesn't hurt to ask him to find out.
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Ok also do you know where I can find a front glass and bezzel for the machine
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I haven't seen items for Cal Omega for sale, but you can post a message here that says "Want To Buy" and list what you need. Then you ask someone on the NLG staff to move your WTB post to the Classified Ads forum where it will get larger reading and maybe someone will have the parts. Sometimes people will take a machine apart and sell the parts from it, so there may be someone that has what you need.
Most video slot machines have 2 pieces of front glass - the upper glass and the belly glass (lower glass) so you will need to say which glass you are looking for. The bezel you need, is that for going around the opening where the monitor is located?
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Jim is selling just the 1493 Ceronix chassis.
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Jim is selling just the 1493 Ceronix chassis.
Oops - my mistake, I was hoping it was the complete display and would work for this Cal Omega machine. Do you know where a suitable display can be obtained?
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I would check in my local area for any video arcade business and call them. Most have a back room or building with older machines. Maybe someone in his area can help him or point him to someone that could. I would think that shipping a whole Monitor assembly would be costly. That's why I mentioned a LCD display using a converter box. This is things they do when the build out the multicade games.
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I need the bezel around the monitor and the glass over the monitor
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You could check here:
https://forums.arcade-museum.com/
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Who do I contact to get something moved to classified ads.
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Also I just realized that the machine is supposed to have a mechanism to give out coins. Where would I get that as mine did not come with any.
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You might want to post pictures of your hopper and the plug or plugs. That might give someone a idea of what type you have. I think I would just post a new WTB Ad for your parts since this post has gotten long. Try see what you can find on the video game sight too. Someone there might have parts that you need. Have you looked on Craigslist in your area for video poker or video arcade games or parts. I see them post here sometimes. Worth a try.
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All I have right now is the cut opening on the top door
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From what I've seen of your cabinet it's more of a arcade machine.
A slot machine is in a metal cabinet and very compact.
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Everything is metal exept for the sides
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That type of cabinet would probably have a printer to print out a winning ticket.
Maybe it would spit out tickets like a the amusement parks.
The opening in the door is for the coin acceptors.
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But there is one on the control panel already
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I have reached out to CGT to see if they have any records on it. From what I have read Cal Omega was bought by CEI which was bought by ucmc which was bought by cgt.
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just my thoughts,,,,
Way back when you first posted about your machine and showed us a photo it looked to me like it might be a Cal Omega mpu circuit board that had been installed into an arcade gaming cabinet. The Cal Omega machines are not as familiar as other brands so I may be wrong about all of this. But slot machines have an idplate that shows the manufacturer name, model number and serial number of the machine, sometimes they are removed but usually not. The idplate is required by gaming regulators. Also, slot machines are made to be rugged because they are sold for use in a casino 24/7, so they are made of strong metal, or metal covered with plastic for appearance. Your machine doesn't have an idplate and the outer cabinet portions looks like non-metal construction, similar to arcade game cabinets. And your machine has an after-market power supply instead of the original power supply from Cal Omega.
Also, your cabinet is made so that the screen will be tilted back instead of mounted straight up and down. Because of the height above the floor of the player pushbuttons on your machine a tilted back screen infers the player will be standing in front of the machine, this is a typical arcade game thing. The only casino slot machines that are tilted back are bartop machines and slant top machines, both of these are made for playing when the player is seated. Casinos don't want to make their customers stand up, it gets tiresome and the player will soon quit playing.
These are the reasons it seems to me that your machine doesn't look like a slot machine made for casino use. That doesn't mean anything bad, just that it may be difficult to find a manual or any documentation on the machine itself. If I am right then what documentation you will want to find is on the Cal Omega circuit board itself, and the game software that is installed. Since it is operating ok with the substitute monitor from your other game then you just need to get a monitor that will fit the opening. If the monitor will move forward enough in the cabinet you may not even need a glass to cover the opening. A lot of video poker machines don't have a clear glass covering the screen, the crt screen itself is right there flush with the opening in the machine cabinet or door. There may have never been a bezel or glass on the cabinet, that's probably why there is no bezel or glass on it now. Back when the crt display was removed to use on another machine they most likely wouldn't have taken the bezel or glass, so if it ever had them they would still be there.
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The aftermarket power supply you see isn't used for anything but there is a big transformer at the bottom of the cabinet
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This game is a gambling game but has a knock off switch instead of a hopper. A computer monitor that will display CGA input would be comparable. That being an early computer standard DB 9 connector CGA resolution might be hard to find. The original monitor was a standard arcade video game 13 inch monitor. Try to find one that has a good tube bright color, good focus and not burned bad.
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Wow! Thank you so much! Do you think I could find the glass that goes in front of the monitor with glass on it
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You probably will have to fabricate something maybe out of plexiglass perhaps? Here's a picture of what looks like your game with the original glass on it. As for the bezel you can probably find the proper size and just make a dark cover to go around it with wood or anything dark, or anything you can paint black.
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Thank you, do you know if my cabinet is original
Also what is the cut out I posted about before for.
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The standard Cal Omega glass is 19 5/8 high X 19 7/8 wide is this the size you need?
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I'm not sure I will measure it soon. Do you know where I can find a cheap 13 inch crt monitor, I want to try to keep it original.
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In this picture of my machine you can see a cutout on the coin door area, any idea what that is for?
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I brightened the cutout area so we can see it better. Is that a push rod just above the cutout area? Maybe this cutout opening is where a coin box was installed, you would turn a key to unlock it and then slide the coin box outward? What does the other side of the cabinet look like, is there a coin chute that sends the coins from the coin entry down to this cutout area? Just to the right of this cutout opening there is a smaller opening, maybe that is for the coin return of rejected coins. On the coin entry you can see a plunger that you press down, I think that is for coin return, and the returned coin would fall into that smaller opening just to the right of the larger opening. Inside the cabinet there was probably a mechanical coin acceptor (coin mech) that would accept or reject the coin that someone inserted. If the coin mech accepted it then the coin would be sent over to the coin box. As the coin passed thru the coin mech it would trigger a switch that put a play credit on the machine. just a guess...
(click image to enlarge)
(https://s1.postimg.org/7has5prsjj/rsz_img_20170918_072542_z2.jpg)
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Yes that smaller cutout is for coin return I know what coin mechs are I have some that I put in it. There is another door below the one with the cut out that has the coin bucket in it
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Also I just realized that the machine is supposed to have a mechanism to give out coins. Where would I get that as mine did not come with any.
Do you mean a coin return mechanism or a coin acceptor mechanism?
If you mean a coin acceptor then there are many different coin mechanisms for accepting a coin, the kind your machine needs probably looks similar to the photos below. There are low cost ones that are made of plastic, others are metal. They mount on the inside of the machine, just below the coin entry. These type of coin acceptors are purely mechanical, no electrical power is needed to operate them. But you will need a switch below the coin acceptor for the coin to activate a game play credit. There might be some coin mechs that come with the coin switch.
You can find new and used coin mechs for sale lots of places, like ebay, places that sell arcade or slot machine parts, etc. There might be someone here on NLG that has a quarter coin mech for sale.
Since you have been able to play this Cal/Omega video poker machine by using the monitor you have from your other machine how did you put credits on the game and get it to play?
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(https://s1.postimg.org/14f69napgv/Coinmech25plastic.jpg)
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(https://s1.postimg.org/632oo69kvz/coin_mech1.jpg)
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Yes that smaller cutout is for coin return I know what coin mechs are I have some that I put in it. There is another door below the one with the cut out that has the coin bucket in it
Is that bottom drawer with the coin bucket for overflow coins, to catch coins when the smaller coin box that slides into the opening (just below the lock) gets full of coins?
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Yes, I know what coin mechs are I have some and put one in. The machine already has a switch, but don't know about overflow
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Looks like the right size hole that a bill acceptor might plug real nice. Might have a screened front pexi if a standard size fits your game.
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I'll measure tonight, have to go to school today, then I will post again with my findings.
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The standard Cal Omega glass is 19 5/8 high X 19 7/8 wide is this the size you need?
Yes I believe this is the size i need.
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Only monitor Plexiglas I have is for a Pixels it is in good shape 6 color silk screen. Don't let the label "amusement only" fool you Cal Omega only made gambling games. 905/ 922 game boards had no provision for a hopper, they used a knock off switch and paid over the counter. Dozens of games are available some skill games others games of chance most have adjustable odds. Pixels is a cool game played like poker with people that run onto the screen with a pitter patter sound, good graphics and sound. To convert your 922 game board to Pixels you need to change 7 2532 EPROMs 1 16 pin color PROM all in sockets easy to change. Cabinet and control panel wiring is the same you need to change the button labels. Send me an email if your interested.
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I was surfin on line and found this: Didn't know if you were still looking..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Omega-DOUBLE-UP-POKER-Machine-BEZEL-Arcade-video-game-part-Diamond-Flush/112719799358?hash=item1a3e9fa43e:g:6ucAAOSwB09YPZx- (https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Omega-DOUBLE-UP-POKER-Machine-BEZEL-Arcade-video-game-part-Diamond-Flush/112719799358?hash=item1a3e9fa43e:g:6ucAAOSwB09YPZx-)
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yes this is the glass for the large non cabaret version that has buttons right below the glass
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What let me to believe that this had a coin out hopper was because there are two coin counters (the black box with the numbered dials) that have labels put on them reading "IN" and "OUT". When I read those I though Out huh, maybe that is what the hole in the top door is for a coin out slot? anyone have any information on this
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I think Dormi is the source for information on these CEI Games. If you machine has a shelf inside with a slide plate and a plug, more they likely it did have a payout hopper. Have you tried a google search or look on YouTube for anything? I myself have ever worked on the smaller slot machine versions, never an upright.
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Coin door hole in for a bill acceptor without a stacker. 905 and 922 (your board) boards have no circuitry for a hopper your game has a knock off switch for hand payment
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Where does the bill acceptor plus in to power and data
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J205 is the monitor connector power and video. J204 is the speaker connector
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The connections for bill acceptor
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What is a Knock Out switch and where would the bill acceptor plug into the board
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I think a knock-off switch is a switch in the machine that will remove credits (or games) the player has won and built up on the machine. The player would have the owner or attendant in the location where the machine was located to come over, see how many credits/games you had on the machine, pay you for them and then he'd press the knock-off switch to delete the credits/games. This was a popular setup back in the old days on pinball machines that were being used for gambling reasons. The knock-off switch was inside the machine, so from the outside you couldn't tell it was rigged that way, the machine looked like a normal "for amusement only" device. When this was done there wasn't a hopper in the machine, if there was a hopper that would make it a gambling device, not an amusement device.
I don't know about the bill acceptor plug, maybe dormi or someone else will comment about that.
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Cal Omega games did not come from the factory with bill acceptors. Your game has had an acceptor installed probably by an operator that was tired of counting and wrapping a garbage can of quarters every week. A retro fit acceptor would have been wired into power and coin circuits without having a dedicated recptical on the mother board
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Does anyone know what cabinet mine could be I am really confused here. How could it fit everything and look like a Derringer cabinet but have enough differences to not be a derringer?
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I have marked the topic as solved as the original question has been answered but if anyone has any other information relevant please reply to this thread. :thank_you: