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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => CEI and Cal Omega Video Poker Games => Topic started by: Amechanic on July 28, 2014, 02:02:59 AM
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I think he's the one who repaired my CEI mpu board... it's been a few years but mine works great.
I kind of like its beeps tones while you play it. Can you explain how to do any of the programming or resets using the deck buttons? I read something about it in a couple old post.. I would think that there must be a manual some where for these?? I have bought PDF manuals before for other models like Sigma, but this ones like finding the good lottery numbers.. The one thing I see I don't like it that the screen adj pots are on the back of the chassis and not easy to get at without a chance of getting shocked..
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Which model is the one you're working on now? There should be a number on it. Mine was actually hand written on the front of the top deck.
I HAVE a manual - and I think it's for yours. I may be the only one with it. When I get home today, I'll pull it out and look for your information.
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I haven't noticed a model number.. I see a tag with a serial number and date made.. This one is from 1985. I'll have to look it over again. Is there any way you could have your manual converted to a PDF? I wonder if a store like Staples or another copier store would do it? I'd be willing to pay to have it done, if they would do it, or even have the manual copied?
Gary
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Adjusting the CRT can be tricky. It's best to build an extension cable. The connectors are fairly standard. My EVO screen is great... it has a round mult-function knob that adjusts everything from the front.
My CEI manual is for Version 51.0X but I think it covers your model too... I think! If you carefully pull out your MPU, it's probably written on the board or on the chassis of it as well.
I will look into copying this manual. Is there a specific thing I can look up for you now? It's a bit like programming an S plus... using the deck buttons but there's a lot of things you can do.
I will look into copying the manual. Let me know if you find out any version number.
I sent another PM to SolidSilver but he's still not responding. It's really weird since we were corresponding frequently - his profile indicates he's been on NLG, so I'm baffled especially since he's the moderator of THIS topic! I hope it isn't something serious.
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I guess right now what I need to know now is how to use the deck button to set up the machine. This machine will only pay out 10 coins when you push the collect button. If you want your whole winnings, you have to hold the button down? Is this normal??
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Reply coming! Just a busy work weekend...
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Okay I'm going to "build" this reply. We have to get to the "LEARN" menu through the "MAINTENANCE" menu. Make sure the credits are played off and no game is in progress.
Open your door and there should be a MENU button. Press that. I've added pictures from my manual and you can read from there too. Once you press menu the screen should be displayed as shown in fig 2-1. From that screen, press the button #4 (counting the discard/hold buttons left to right) and that will get you to the LEARN mode.
Once your in the LEARN mode, I think you'll be able to find the parameter entitled "CREDIT COLLECTED PER PRESS." The default value is 10. You'll be changing it to "ALL."
I'm just going to shoot pictures of that section. I think it should be self explanatory, if you are familiar with menus and sub-menus.
I'll add the pictures as I shoot them. More coming!
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Learn mode
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Learn mode
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And finally... (sorry I should combine these shots but the instructions for photoshop are so confusing that I'll be here forever!)
Let me know your progress.
We should have actually started a new subject thread at reply #12. I hope SolidSilver shows up sometime and that he's ok!
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Mod note: Done
Thanks to whoever did it... maybe Joey? :applause: Ron (r273)
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Thanks for your hard work. I need to fire up the desktop computer so I came print these out. I'll go see what kind of trouble I can get my self into tomorrow. I can't thank you enought for your help.. :cheers: and. :1:
Gary
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You may not have a menu button! I don't. Mine is the TEST button on the upper left side of the bank.
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Were you able to use this information? The suspense is killing me... :hyper:
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From Amechanic:
Well I tried to use the CEI papers tonight and didn't have much luck?? The pages you sent me say to push a menu button, but I don't see a menu button, only a test button.. When I push that it checks the systems ram.. So I'm not having much luck.. You have any other ideas? I have the four red buttons over by my on/off switch and that's all I see?? Top ones marked test, second one down is blank and does nothing, Then one says Hopper fill? I don't remember what the forth said... The game plays great, I just wish I could get into the menus??
From Shortrackskater:
Hmmm... one of those buttons should bring up that first menu. Did you say you did try all the buttons? I'd try each one, then press the hold/discard button to the far left and see if the menu will scroll down to LEARN mode.
More... It has to be the TEST button. Press that and push the far left hold/discard button. I'm wondering if it will scroll down OR press the second from left hold/discard button and see if is scrolls UP.
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Ok... Here is a picture of the buttons on the inside of my CEI machine... I will try holding down a hold/discard button to see if any thing else comes on the screen.. I got busy today bring a PE Video Poker machine back to life today :applause:.. It's super easy for program that thing :cool_thumb_up: .. Now if this CEI would let me in, I'll be doing a happy dance :dancing_2: .. It works great, but it can be better if I can change a few small thing..
Gary
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It is the TEST button to get into the menus. Let me play with mine and see what happens with each button.
Sorry for lag in response... my mom had a heart attack last week and things were tough here - better now (so far) so I'm back!
Love to see your CEI get into the LEARN mode.
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Sorry to hear about your Mom.. Hope she's doing well.. I have not messed with the CEI for a while. I've been busy on other projects.
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Do the dip switches have anything to do with getting into the menu? I see three different sets of switches on my board.. Switches 1 & 3 are all on, switches on SW2 has 2&3 off, thats opt 2 and opt 3.. Any idea what these are??
Gary
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This is all I can get on my screen after pushing the test button.. Doesn't help to hold down any of the doors deck buttons, other then to exit the test screen..
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I'll pull my MPU out and check my settings and I'll look in the manual as well. Sort of a busy day today... helping out my mom... but I'll be free later this evening. Please stand by! :propeller:
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Another thing I've noticed is if you look at the blue screen it shows software V24.0 from 1985. Is this machine running a later version of software, and that's why I can't access the menu the way you can on yours? I do remember reading some where that you had to type in a code, or push certain deck button in a certain order to access or change settings?? A book, a book.. What I wouldn't do for a manual or two on these CEI machines.. :soapbox_3:
I did notice that when you push the deck buttons when the machine is in test mode that different deck buttons light up?
Gary
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My version say 1988 1991 when it turns on. I did get a rebuilt mpu board a few years ago from member Dormi here on NLG.
Maybe he'll chime in? He's probably the only other one who would know this other than the still absent SolidSilver.
My DIP switch settings are
SW1
1-5 ON
6,7 OFF
8 ON
SW2
1,3 ON
The rest OFF
UPDATE: I did get a reply from Dormi :applause:
" Not all games had learn mode especially the early the games. They all did have test mode, some like 7.9 percentages could be set from test mode by entering 1-2-5-4-3-4 on discard buttons. It all depends on the game number displayed on test mode. If we knew what game version number he has I might have documentation for it. "
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My version say 1988 1991 when it turns on. I did get a rebuilt mpu board a few years ago from member Dormi here on NLG.
Maybe he'll chime in? He's probably the only other one who would know this other than the still absent SolidSilver.
My DIP switch settings are
SW1
1-5 ON
6,7 OFF
8 ON
SW2
1,3 ON
The rest OFF
UPDATE: I did get a reply from Dormi :applause:
" Not all games had learn mode especially the early the games. They all did have test mode, some like 7.9 percentages could be set from test mode by entering 1-2-5-4-3-4 on discard buttons. It all depends on the game number displayed on test mode. If we knew what game version number he has I might have documentation for it. "
Thanks Mark... I'll check this all out tomorrow.
Gary
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Mark, None of those code numbers seem to work on my game. My screen, when I'm in the test mode says :
Casino Electronics
Gaming Draw Poker
V24.0 SCH. 07-DT. 01/14/85
The stickers on my game proms say 24.0 also.. There must be a way to get into the menu settings? The dip switches on my MPU are, sw1 1-8 all on, sw2 1 on, 2-3 off, 4-8 on, sw3 1-8 all on.. Mines a 904 board 8200080 REV E.. All I want to know is if I can setup a double down option, and possiblie from a max of 10 coins back to 5.. :banghead:
Gary
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for the 23.9 and 24.0 software for the 903 or 904 game board
dip switch 2
credit max bet max
1 2 3 4
on on 100 on on 5
off on 400 off on 10
on off 800 on off 40
off off 1600 off off 80
5 is not used 6 is used for the watchdog timer 7 & 8 set the horz & vert polarty for the monitor
dip switch 1 is used to set the boud rate searial chip
there is no menu for this software
double down is in the payschedule eprom 07-dt is not a double down schedule
doyle
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Doyle.
Thank you for the information.. I was hoping it had a double down option. Nice machine, just very basic.
Gary
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Amechanic, my apologies for replying in reverse order, but I've been trying top catch up, and took the most recent questions first as being those
most likely to have a member waiting on tenterhooks for an answer.
As you have undoubtedly figured out, you have an early machine, one of the very first video poker machines with actual cash payout.
Cal Omega (and their Nevada gaming-qualification subsidiary CEI) did not really assign Model numbers. They started out with stand-up consoles "for amusement only",
added the "Casino Mini" housing like yours for Nevada payout gambling, and also made a very few (very rare) sit-down consoles with coin payout.
What determines the level of sophistication is the gameboard/motherboard combo, which determines the software (eprom game sets) that can be used, as well as some of the button wiring. Your 904 board put you at the early, and most common, gaming period. The 904 board is the original Amusement 903 board with an added piggyback memory board for game & payout history to satisfy Nevada gaming laws.
Your screen shows software installed as V. 24.0: this is the HOLD version of draw poker, less common than the V 23.9 Discard version.
It also shows (payout) Sched 070DT. The 07 is the most common schedule, paying 1,2,3,4,5,7,20,50,300, for a total of 94% payback to the player.
The DT codes specifies the max-coin payout for a Royal Flush, although available documentation is vague. D should mean a 2000 coin payout for straight poker, and T should mean 4700 coin payout if the DoubleUp option is in place. (Your software does not have the DoubleUp option, and your 10-button cabinet could not use it anyway)
The only useful things you can set on your dipswitches are:
A. Max credits the machine will accept before switching back to coin-payout mode.
B. Max coins that can be played; on the last coin, the machine will automatically deal. You want to set this to match the max coin payout point for a royal flush, usually 5 or 10. The best way to determine that point is to set it to maximum (80), then put in one coin at a time to see when the Royal Flush payout on the screen suddenly jumps.
Anyway, I hope this information, however late, is useful or at least interesting.
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