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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #40 on: January 11, 2017, 07:46:18 AM »
On the machine I have the small resisror is connected to the right lug on the coil.  Does it matter which lug???
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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #41 on: January 11, 2017, 08:52:37 AM »
Bob.  according to the schematic and the other picture posted, the resistors on your unit are identical  to his, so all that is correct.  the orange wire is the 50vac wire.
the coil should pull in all the way, using your finger, can you push the moveable part easily ?  is  there anything obstructing the movement, I have seen the white plastic melt when that coil remained energized for a long period of time. 

last thing, where does the small resistor finally end up , looks like the bottom contact of the switch, where does that wire lead to?   you should remove the 470 ohm 10 watt resistor from the coil, and measure it, also measure the coil, and measure the small resistor as well, if any of the value have changed that would affect the operation of the coil,  are you getting 50 vac to the coil? 

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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #42 on: January 11, 2017, 09:31:16 AM »
I have 53v on orange wire.


Large resistor:  meter set at 200: no reading open, meter set at 2000: reading 474
Small resistor:  meter set at 200: no reading open, meter set at 2000: no reading open see pic for both end of small resistor.
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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #43 on: January 11, 2017, 09:56:57 AM »
Bob,  using some test leads, if you apply 50vac (orange wire)  to the coil and apply a direct yellow wire to the other lug on the coil,  will it pull in the way it should?   the two orange wires with the tracer on them, where do they terminate?

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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #44 on: January 11, 2017, 01:56:05 PM »
Bob,  using some test leads, if you apply 50vac (orange wire)  to the coil and apply a direct yellow wire to the other lug on the coil,  will it pull in the way it should?   the two orange wires with the tracer on them, where do they terminate?

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I used the test leads connecting Orange to one leg and Yellow to the other, the coil did pull in all the way.  I also found some junk on the plastic piece from where it had gotten hot, removed it.  The 2 Orange wire with the tracers go back to the hopper beau plug.

I do think the coil needs to be shimmed up a littler because the metal piece has to go a bit past parallel to bottom out on coil.

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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #45 on: January 11, 2017, 03:52:34 PM »
Couple of photos for reference on spacing.

So where are you at with the situation? Still arcing and sparking or just not pulling all the way.

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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #46 on: January 14, 2017, 11:08:05 AM »
New Coil (G-31-2000) and it works perfectly!!!!
Had a few payouts w/an extra coinn but that seemed to clear up after a few payouts.


thanks to everyone for all the help!
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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #47 on: January 18, 2017, 04:12:18 AM »
Jackpot bell question.


Should the bell ring on every payout?? 


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Re: Bally 945-3 Coin accepted light and payout problems
« Reply #48 on: January 18, 2017, 04:34:29 AM »
You either have to follow the wiring on the reals sewing machines pay on every payout some machines the Bell only goes off above 18 coins from the belly goes off on jackpot lockup I myself like to rewire the machine so every time it pays the Bell goes off the reason people have these machines in their home as for the noise they love it some people I put a switch in where they can shut the Bell off I guess it just depends on preference it's easy to add another set of contacts to the payout relay then every time it engages the Bell goes off


Set the machine up for a jackpot see if the Bell goes off then set it up for the next highest pay see if the Bell goes off and work your way down and see where it page and the bell goes off

 

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