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replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« on: May 01, 2017, 07:17:55 PM »
Thinking about replacing a 17 in CRT in a gameking with a LCD. Is it a easy swap?

Is it possible to replace it with a 19 in LCD?


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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #1 on: May 01, 2017, 07:28:23 PM »
Yes.   Remove the CRT, drop in the LCD, and change the monitor bezel on the door.

There are two different types, 19 pin and 25 pin.  Make sure you get the correct one for your machine.

I've never seen a 19" LCD installed in a 17" cabinet.  I don't think it would fit without some custom engineering.


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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #2 on: May 01, 2017, 07:38:50 PM »
I assume the LCD comes with the brackets and power supply?

here is a pic of the plug. looks like a 19 pin

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #3 on: May 01, 2017, 07:58:22 PM »
No brackets are required, just the door bezel.  The LCD gets it's power from that the same connector that the CRT does.  Yes, that looks like a 19pin connector to me.

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #4 on: May 01, 2017, 08:50:11 PM »
You might want to try contacting Ken at Ohio Gaming.. He had some 17" LCD monitor assemblies with door bezel for sale a while back, but I don't know if he still has any for sale.. I bought one, very nice.. Just a plug and play conversion.. Hardest part is changing the door bezel, just a few screws.. Then adj the clearance between the LCD screen and bezel when the door is closed.. That's done with the stop screw on the cabinets shelf after you loosen the nuts under the monitors shelf.. sounds like a lot of work, but take 30 min or less..
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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2017, 01:04:53 PM »
actually I recounted the pins. Look like I have a 17 pin.

here is the pic closed up

Didnt know they made 17 pins


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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2017, 01:13:24 PM »
That is considered a 19 pin connection. LCDs might only have 15 male pins.

PM sent on LCD.
« Last Edit: May 02, 2017, 01:51:21 PM by Ken »

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2017, 03:51:29 PM »
actually I recounted the pins. Look like I have a 17 pin.

here is the pic closed up

Didnt know they made 17 pins

It is a 19 pin connector populated with 17 pins.  Count the holes, not the pins.

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2017, 06:22:37 PM »
Im confused now.

I had 2 different slot repair places here telling me it wont work and one said

044 uses 19 pin

3902 uses 17 pin


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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2017, 06:54:10 PM »
3902 boards are usually 19 pins but I have seen plenty with 25 pins from the casinos. 044 I have only seen with 25 pins from casinos. The 25 pin set ups will have the 4th column empty.

3902 and 044 games work with 19 or 25 pin monitors.

25 pin on left and 19 on the right in picture.

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2017, 07:04:13 PM »
here is a pic of the plug in the back of the machine. I counted 17 connectors in there with 2 holes that are empty

I asked another slot dealer here in houston. He said nope for the 19 pin connector LCD


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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2017, 07:09:41 PM »
That is a 19 pin connector in your picture.

Are you saying that a dealer in Houston says that you don't have a 19 pin connector? or that you can't use a 19 pin with an 044? or you can't use a LCD with a 19 pin connector?

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2017, 07:11:30 PM »
dealer saying that I have a 17 pin and wont be able to use a 19 pin lcd.

2 of them said that

one of them actually told me to contact Ken for the LCD and it is the same one telling me that it wont work

I have the 3902 board

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2017, 07:20:03 PM »
I counted 17 connectors in there with 2 holes that are empty


Correct.. 17 used, plus 2 empty equals = 19.  It's not the number of wires or connectors in the plug, but the total number of usable holes.
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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2017, 07:22:55 PM »
dealer saying that I have a 17 pin and wont be able to use a 19 pin lcd.

2 of them said that

one of them actually told me to contact Ken for the LCD and it is the same one telling me that it wont work

I have the 3902 board

They are wrong and you can tell them I said so.

A 19 pin LCD might have 15 male pins whereas a CRT has 17 male pins. Not all the pins are used. I don't have any 19 pin LCDs to go and verify the number of male pins. There are members here that have purchased 19 pin LCDs from me and they work in their machines. 3902 or 044 will work with 19 or 25 pin connectors.

Ceronix monitors have to be set to digital for 044 games.

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2017, 07:36:11 PM »
I am one of those people that bought both a 19" & a 25 pin LCD from Ken. They both work perfect in my machines.  :soapbox_3:
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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #16 on: May 03, 2017, 03:15:27 PM »
I was just confused why none of the dealers here will sell a lcd to me saying it will not work.

I sent a email to Ceronix about the issue

here is my question and reply from Lisa

Hello
 I have a 3902 game king upright with a 17 in crt. The crt went out and been looking for a replacement monitor. The plug has 17 pins. I was wondering if a 19 pin lcd or crt witll fit for the replacement. I been getting different answers from slot repair places. one says it will work, others say it wont work and I need to get a 17 pin.
 
 Can you help clarify? Will a 17 in 19 pin LCD work? I attached a pic of the plug

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Hi there! Yes, a LCD with a 19 pin connector will replace your CRT with a 17 PIN connector J



So what the heck is going on with the dealers here? ???


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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #17 on: May 03, 2017, 03:41:08 PM »
Sounds like other than Ken, you are talking to people who either counted the actual pins or only read the specs. I've never seen a plug made for only 17 pins. They make 19 or 25 and then just use what's needed. That's how they keep costs down across the industry, one part for 50 uses

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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #18 on: May 03, 2017, 03:52:34 PM »
This is what your response from Lisa said and looks like to me...

 Here is the response


Hi there! Yes, a LCD with a 19 pin connector will replace your CRT with a 17 PIN connector J

 [size=0pt]Lisa Teal [/size][size=0pt][/size][size=0pt]Account Executive[/size]


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Re: replacing 17in Crt with 17 in or 19 in LCD possbile?
« Reply #19 on: May 03, 2017, 04:13:08 PM »
This is what your response from Lisa said and looks like to me...

 Here is the response


Hi there! Yes, a LCD with a 19 pin connector will replace your CRT with a 17 PIN connector J

 [size=0pt]Lisa Teal [/size][size=0pt]Account Executive[/size]


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