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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #80 on: June 17, 2017, 06:04:50 AM »
Take some pictures of the harness connections on the top box and where they go on both ends.

Need pictures of where the connections go!
i chased all 4 connectors from the vision module back to the lower module connector - all wiring matches based on wire color - the wiring in the vision unit matches the wire harness from the vision back to the lower module.

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #81 on: June 17, 2017, 06:18:05 AM »
I haven't had a vision machine for years so my memory is foggy. Are there any cards, like ram, plugged into the topbox computer motherboard? If so, you might try cleaning the edge connectors and reinserting them

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #82 on: June 17, 2017, 06:31:34 AM »
Rather than tracing the harness all the way to the motherboard, lets take it in sections. On the back of the monitor there is a 10 netplex connector. This is the highway between the MPU and the monitor. Take a pic of where it goes first after leaving the monitor.
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #83 on: June 17, 2017, 06:56:13 AM »
here are the pictures - the wires go to nexplex bottom plug j2
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #84 on: June 17, 2017, 07:04:45 AM »
On the motherboard there are 2 netplex J2 J3 they look identical currently using the J2?

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #85 on: June 17, 2017, 07:19:28 AM »
Ok, never mind.
"IVALID DRIVE SPECIFICATION"
"INVALID MEDIA TYPE"
is nothing. mine says the same thing and boots fine. I'm starting to think that your monitor is is just fine. Normally, after the "initializing, please wait...", you should be able to look down at your VFD display and, if all is well, you get "MS Verify: App Start". What does your VFD say?

just the wait for monitor message

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #86 on: June 18, 2017, 06:23:14 AM »
the J2 and J3 plugs to the motherboard were reversed - I checked the wiring from the monitor and round that error - don't know if that may have caused damage;  no change to the game.  Strange that IGT would have 2 plugs abutting that had the same plug design.
Still getting the waiting on the monitor -  after the nexplex loading display the bv cycles so it sounds like it almost ready to game up.  Also the tower lights - both are lit if that means anything.
With this game there was a spare cpu and motherboard - he may have changed them out trying to fix whatever issue he was chasing.
Would running a CLEAR do any good?

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #87 on: June 18, 2017, 06:45:50 AM »
Pictures of connections in the top box???
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #88 on: June 18, 2017, 06:54:34 AM »
the J3 which is the netplex

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #89 on: June 18, 2017, 07:23:09 AM »
Long shot- I had a 500 series MPU that would not work in one of my Reel Touch machines. Doing the same type of thing that your vision is doing. (Waiting on display) I installed that MPU in a standard S2K three reel machine and it worked fine. Put it back in the Reel Touch got the same waiting on display. I replaced the MPU and then the Reel Touch worked without issues.
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #90 on: June 18, 2017, 07:26:10 AM »
all the switching and you ended up just using another cpu?

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #91 on: June 18, 2017, 07:35:05 AM »
I originally changed out the CPU and that fixed the Reel Touch.  I was not convinced the old CPU was bad so I stuck it in a 3 reeler to check it out and it worked in that machine. Puzzled I stuck it back in the Reel Touch and again it did not work.  Put it back in the 3 reeler and it has been in there operating for about two years now.
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #92 on: June 18, 2017, 07:37:10 AM »
don't have that luxury - only s2000 i got and want - will try the other cpu. 

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #93 on: June 18, 2017, 07:48:47 AM »
Like I said it's a long shot. If you have another CPU it won't hurt to try it. I still believe its a connection problem somewhere between the video monitor and the CPU. Make sure one of the wires in the plugs did not slip back and is not making a good connection. Also make sure one of the pins on the video unit connector didn't slip back either.
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #94 on: June 18, 2017, 07:52:46 AM »
i checked all the pins - my concern is that fact the j2 and j3 were reversed.  will try the other cpu - have to remove the varta battery and see if the other battery is any good

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #95 on: June 18, 2017, 08:02:21 AM »
If my memory serves me right they are both neplex connections it shouldn't matter if they were reversed however have you gone back into the I/O tests and tried to cfg neplex since you made that change?
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #96 on: June 18, 2017, 08:43:36 AM »
The other board wouldn't sense door optics so no luck there No I didn't try to access test don't know how
the other board had a fried U67 IC which i didn't see when i removed the varta battery - so that board is toast.
will look into running the io tests
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #97 on: June 19, 2017, 04:37:15 AM »
at this point i have chased down all the wiring - so the issue must be in one of the boards/modules - is it worth trying a clear?  Here is the CPU board I have.  I am still trying to get a video download so i can view frame by frame to see if there is an error message I haven't seen yet.

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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #98 on: June 19, 2017, 05:24:28 AM »
I looked at your video pretty much fram by frame and all looks normal (same as my visions). I really think there is a break in communication, be it a connection or the MPU board itself (or MB for that matter). Speaking of the board, remove that green varta battery and inspect for damage. Just so I'm clear, does the netplex harness go from the top monitor directly to the motherboard uninterupted? Mine go one of two ways: from the top monitor to the distribution board, then down to the MB, or from the monitor to a 3X3 molex, then to the MB. It usually depends on whether or not there is a printer in the top box. No printer, no need for distribution board as far as Netplex goes. If it goes though a connector, disconnect it and be sure that all pins are secure in the connector. It's rare but I've seen them get pushed out the back. If it goes through the distribution board, remove it and check continuity across the netplex connectors with a volt ohm meter. I know you may have done all of that but I just want to make sure we eliminate all wired connections before we go telling you to buy a board. Heck, I'm out of spares or I'd send you one. Good luck, fingers crossed. Ian
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Re: IGT RUN FOR YOUR MONEY
« Reply #99 on: June 19, 2017, 06:44:23 AM »
Ian - I thought I had a lot of time on my hands - appreciate all the help - didn't check the varta battery (visually it looked god - so I didn't go deeper)
The J3 Netplex connection from the Video to the MB - passes thru a connection - top box to bottom box - no distribution board - the continuity goes thru to the MB - don't know if you read my earlier posting - the J3 at the MB was reversed with the J2 at the MB.  After i corrected still no change.  Lastly - sometimes I end up with all the buttons lit on the door panel - other times not.   Also, I believe the MB was swapped out as was the CPU but the cpu is damaged (has a fried U67).   Will go back and check and remove the varta battery.


 

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