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How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« on: August 20, 2017, 11:43:57 AM »
My bill accepter doesn't go to credits on my IGT S-Plus, it goes to a cash payout even if there is a couple game credits on the credit meter of the machine, all bills to the BV still goes to cash or hopper pay.
So I have a SP-831, can you tell me how to get the BV to go to credits always in a way I could figure out how to set this?
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #1 on: August 20, 2017, 12:00:34 PM »
push to light up the cash-credit button right before you insert the bill.
edit: that won't work if it does it with credits on already.  You will have to change  setting 5-1 or 5-2 to 5-0 I think.

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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #2 on: August 20, 2017, 12:09:18 PM »
push to light up the cash-credit button right before you insert the bill.
edit: that won't work if it does it with credits on already.  You will have to change  setting 5-1 or 2 to 5-0 I think.

Player initiated credit is on: It is on and there are a few credits on hold, insert bill and hopper pays out in cash, credits remain the same.
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #3 on: August 20, 2017, 12:16:03 PM »
open door press white button twice or til you see a 5-1 or 5-2 press spin to change to 5-0. press white button again.

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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #4 on: August 20, 2017, 12:45:56 PM »
could be dip switch #4 on mpu.  never used a 831

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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #5 on: August 20, 2017, 04:05:16 PM »
open door press white button twice or til you see a 5-1 or 5-2 press spin to change to 5-0. press white button again.
I tried this, 5-0 gave me slectable credit
5-1 no credit, and 5-2 always credit but in all, b/v still went to cash. I also tried a ram clear and tried it again with same results.
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #6 on: August 20, 2017, 04:06:43 PM »
could be dip switch #4 on mpu.  never used a 831
Dip #4 on MPU, sounds interesting and I'll have a look and let you know.
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #7 on: August 20, 2017, 05:08:15 PM »
Well dip # 4 didn't change anything I am afraid, credit on credit off, player selectable credit, and MPU dip 4 on and off, bills into the DVB-200 still just go to the hopper for payout.
Maybe it is just one of those things?
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #8 on: August 20, 2017, 05:30:36 PM »
set your machine to this #8-1 Good settings for whole machine

 All setting changes require 0 credits on the machine before entering setup mode.

•With the machine turned on and in idle mode, open the door press the white test button 2 times
•You should see "2  n" in the winner paid/credits windows, where n= 0 or 1. Press the spin button until it reads "2  1”
               This enables the spin sounds.
•Turn the jackpot key once. This advances through the setup sub-menu
•You should see "5  n" in the window, where n= 0 to 2. Press the spin button until it reads "5  0"
               This will make all wins automatically go to the credit meter. You will not have to turn on the credit button before playing.
•Turn the jackpot key three times.
•You should see "8  n" in the window, where n= 0 to 2. Press the spin button until it reads "8  1"
               This will force all bills inserted to go to the credit meter. You will never accidentally end up cashing out your bill.
                  [ADD 5-30-2011] It turns out that this setting has to be enabled when the dbv is set up using the SET chip. If the SET chip option is
                  configured as disabled, this option can't be changed and all bills will always go to the tray. If the SET chip option is configured as enabled,
                  then the option is set here. If enabled, a set chip is NOT required to change this setting.
                      Thanks Poppo and Stayouttadabunker for this info. 

•Turn the jackpot key once
•Press the white test button to "return" to the main menu and advance through it until you get to option group 7

          {stop the first time you see a “7” in the Coins-In display}
•Set your hopper and credit limits as follows:
               Note: To set these values, turn the jackpot reset key to change the selected (flashing) digit. Press the spin button to increment the
                          flashing digit.
•[7-1] 0000   Maximum number of credits that will actually cash out from your hopper.

                               Zero effectively disables the hopper, but you can use a low number to match the number of coins that you have, if you wish.
                               If you have more credits than the value set here on the meter, pressing cash out will become a hand pay that is cleared with
                               the key.
•[7-2] 1200  This will cause all single wins of 1201 or more to lock up as a jackpot with lights flashing. Set this between the highest win that you

                           want to pay out normally and the lowest win that you want to lock up as a jackpot. Jackpot wins cleared with the jp key
                           "disappear" and are not added to the credit meter (although they are added to the jackpot meter in the bookkeeping menus.)
•[7-3] 9999  All single wins of equal to or less than the value set in [7-2] (1200 or less in this case) will go to the credit meter as long as the final

                           number of credits is less than 10,000.
•[7-5] 2000  The bill validator will turn off when you have more than 2000 credits. Use any value that you want here.
•[8]    0000  optional.  Partial pay on lockups. If you want some of your jackpot or lockup amounts to pay from the hopper, set this
                                 to the number of coins you want to pay out. This number cannot be higher than the hopper limit setting [7-1].
•Press the white test button one final time after making your last setting change to be sure that the changes stick
•Close the door
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #9 on: August 21, 2017, 08:57:25 AM »
set your machine to this #8-1 Good settings for whole machine

 All setting changes require 0 credits on the machine before entering setup mode.

•With the machine turned on and in idle mode, open the door press the white test button 2 times
•You should see "2  n" in the winner paid/credits windows, where n= 0 or 1. Press the spin button until it reads "2  1”
               This enables the spin sounds.
•Turn the jackpot key once. This advances through the setup sub-menu
•You should see "5  n" in the window, where n= 0 to 2. Press the spin button until it reads "5  0"
               This will make all wins automatically go to the credit meter. You will not have to turn on the credit button before playing.
•Turn the jackpot key three times.
•You should see "8  n" in the window, where n= 0 to 2. Press the spin button until it reads "8  1"
               This will force all bills inserted to go to the credit meter. You will never accidentally end up cashing out your bill.
                  [ADD 5-30-2011] It turns out that this setting has to be enabled when the dbv is set up using the SET chip. If the SET chip option is
                  configured as disabled, this option can't be changed and all bills will always go to the tray. If the SET chip option is configured as enabled,
                  then the option is set here. If enabled, a set chip is NOT required to change this setting.
                      Thanks Poppo and Stayouttadabunker for this info. 

•Turn the jackpot key once
•Press the white test button to "return" to the main menu and advance through it until you get to option group 7

          {stop the first time you see a “7” in the Coins-In display}
•Set your hopper and credit limits as follows:
               Note: To set these values, turn the jackpot reset key to change the selected (flashing) digit. Press the spin button to increment the
                          flashing digit.
•[7-1] 0000   Maximum number of credits that will actually cash out from your hopper.

                               Zero effectively disables the hopper, but you can use a low number to match the number of coins that you have, if you wish.
                               If you have more credits than the value set here on the meter, pressing cash out will become a hand pay that is cleared with
                               the key.
•[7-2] 1200  This will cause all single wins of 1201 or more to lock up as a jackpot with lights flashing. Set this between the highest win that you

                           want to pay out normally and the lowest win that you want to lock up as a jackpot. Jackpot wins cleared with the jp key
                           "disappear" and are not added to the credit meter (although they are added to the jackpot meter in the bookkeeping menus.)
•[7-3] 9999  All single wins of equal to or less than the value set in [7-2] (1200 or less in this case) will go to the credit meter as long as the final

                           number of credits is less than 10,000.
•[7-5] 2000  The bill validator will turn off when you have more than 2000 credits. Use any value that you want here.
•[8]    0000  optional.  Partial pay on lockups. If you want some of your jackpot or lockup amounts to pay from the hopper, set this
                                 to the number of coins you want to pay out. This number cannot be higher than the hopper limit setting [7-1].
•Press the white test button one final time after making your last setting change to be sure that the changes stick
•Close the door

This is very good and helpful information and I thank you. This information has lead me to the problem but I am not so sure on how to fix it. I am set at 5-0. flipping the JP key brings me to 8-2 the problem, I can't change it as the spin reels button goes dark. When this machine came in it was missing the SP chip, it's a Balloon and Bars game. So I found a SP chip that would work in it by trial and error, a SP 831, not sure if it is right or not but it works. The PSR manual reads to use Set026 which I was lucky enough to have that bin in my files. So I used set026 and enabled the B/V 9-1 and set the coin amount to .05 because it is a nickel machine. So I am enabled and the b/v works but pays to the tray. Above you say you can change 8-2 to 8-1 which would force the B/V to pay to credit and what I am hoping for. But how do I do this as it will not let me change it and the bv is enabled? Could it be the SP chip that Is not compatable with this setting or allowing me to make the change?
Thank you very much for this education as I was scratching a hole in my head over this.
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #10 on: August 21, 2017, 10:17:23 AM »
yes, you may need a different SP chip but I don't know which one would be correct. Hopefully someone else here can say.
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2017, 10:38:29 AM »
It's been a long time since I really worked on S+ machines,

I think you might have to set the 8 setting after a ram clear .. or during the set chip settings.


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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #12 on: August 21, 2017, 12:21:23 PM »
dip switch #4 has to be off with this SP chip.  you can double check the setting of the dip switches by going through the entire sub menu that starts with the setting 5_0 or 1 or 2,  the last reading in this menu will show you what the cpu sees the switches are actually set for. (meaning, physically the switch may be showing off, electronically the switch may still be on!!!)
if this setting is off and you can't set the bills to hopper pay option, then you may have the cash out switch mis-wired. it is the only switch that is wired differently from all of the others, look at your other machine and you will see what I am saying, this has fixed the problem you are experiencing.

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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #13 on: August 21, 2017, 01:04:12 PM »
It's been a long time since I really worked on S+ machines,

I think you might have to set the 8 setting after a ram clear .. or during the set chip settings.
Thanks, this must be one of those quirks, but I am thinking that must be the only way.
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #14 on: September 02, 2017, 02:14:30 PM »
Make sure you have zero credits on the machine when trying to change any of the settings related to this stuff.  If you have credits on the machine, either the options won't appear, or they won't let you make changes, or in the case of DIP switch changes, nothing will actually change until there are zero credits on the machine.
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Re: How to set BV or bill acceptor to credit pay only?
« Reply #15 on: September 02, 2017, 03:07:27 PM »
Make sure you have zero credits on the machine when trying to change any of the settings related to this stuff.  If you have credits on the machine, either the options won't appear, or they won't let you make changes, or in the case of DIP switch changes, nothing will actually change until there are zero credits on the machine.


I will next time as this job is done and gone. But in pulling the SP chip and useing a set
Chip, i think you wipe out any credits in the proces, if there were any?
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