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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #20 on: July 13, 2015, 05:52:29 PM »
Have you had a chance to get into the machine's setup menu and make sure the machine is set to accept the different denomination of bills? If the bills are set to "disabled" the machine will cause the DBV to reject them. The manual that Tilt sent to you has instructions on how to enter the menu system and then go to the Bill Validator Configuration screen. The different settings are changed by using the front panel buttons that normally are used to play the game.

Here is a portion of the page in the manual covering the Bill Validator Configuration screen:
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #21 on: July 13, 2015, 08:43:18 PM »
Well let me try this again.. i orginally posted in my CDS wont coin post..

I went into the menu today and looked around.. I found the communication test, but I wasn't sure what to do? I took a couple pictures of different screens. One show some numbers under bill valadator. I can clear the numbers to zero, but start growing right away again. The other screen shows configuration, and current settings. It shows its set as a quarter machine, but under bill validator its showing a $0 for 0 credits?
I do not see a way to make any changes? I'm thinking of pulling the MPU out and taking to battery out. I think this is the only way to totally start over?
I know when I tried inserting a dollar bill in test mode I was getting a dirrection error? I thought the DBV-200 would read from any dirrection?

I don't remember seeing that menu page today?
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2015, 02:07:40 PM »
Gary, there is several optics on the transport. Some may be very small thin slots and need cleaned with a thin cloth like a bed sheet. Trace the wires to each sender and receiver to find them.
Tim.. I took a quick look today and didn't see any optics in my transport?
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2015, 02:14:01 PM »
Have you had a chance to get into the machine's setup menu and make sure the machine is set to accept the different denomination of bills? If the bills are set to "disabled" the machine will cause the DBV to reject them. The manual that Tilt sent to you has instructions on how to enter the menu system and then go to the Bill Validator Configuration screen. The different settings are changed by using the front panel buttons that normally are used to play the game.

Here is a portion of the page in the manual covering the Bill Validator Configuration screen:
I went into the Bill Validator Configuration section, and This machine doesn't display that page.. 
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2015, 04:58:23 PM »
I went into the Bill Validator Configuration section, and This machine doesn't display that page.. 

ok, probably due to a difference between your UV-1510 and the UV-1910 that manual covers. Your menu system setup screens should show somewhere what bills are enabled that the validator is allowed to accept.
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2015, 06:27:49 PM »
It does in the bill validator test. If you go back a few post of the blue screens, I think its the first pic shows bill enabled.. To to right shows 1,2,5,10,20,50,100..

I have one page that allow me to enable or disable 50 & 100's.  Then another line just above that, and it ask to enable new currency, or disable. I have this one on and the $50-$100 off.

When I run the validator test I keep getting a error for direction of the bill being inserted? It's the same for every dirrection tried.. I thought the DBV-200 reads the bill from any dirrection?
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2015, 09:05:32 PM »
It does in the bill validator test. If you go back a few post of the blue screens, I think its the first pic shows bill enabled.. To to right shows 1,2,5,10,20,50,100..

I have one page that allow me to enable or disable 50 & 100's.  Then another line just above that, and it ask to enable new currency, or disable. I have this one on and the $50-$100 off.

When I run the validator test I keep getting a error for direction of the bill being inserted? It's the same for every dirrection tried.. I thought the DBV-200 reads the bill from any dirrection?

That sounds like your machine does have the bills enabled. The difference in the way the screens look versus the manual is probably because your model of machine has different software than the model that the manual covers. But the configuration settings should be similar, just presented differently in the menus. I think that was what Tilt was referring to when he passed that manual along.

You are right, the DBV-200 allows the bill to be inserted in any possible way. That "direction error" you are getting may be another symptom that your DBV head is bad. However, due to our not being familiar with the CDS machine there could be another reason the validator is not working. Too many unknowns to say for sure.

In one of your photos it looks like there is a circuit board mounted to the bill validator assembly that is on the right side of the DBV head (when facing it from the front). If so, is that circuit board connected to the connector on the right side of the DBV head? Any idea what that circuit board is for, could it be causing the problem?

It looks like to me you are probably going to need to locate someone with a similar machine that you can borrow their bill validator from to test in your machine. Or find a bill validator with CDS software you can install to see if that fixes it. I sent a message out to a person that did have some extra DBV-200 heads to see if any of them had CDS software (ID-004) but haven't heard back from them. There are places that will test and repair your DBV head if needed but that might not be cost effective. Are you determined to use the bill validator, or would using coins only be ok?

Attached is a photo from the JCM manual showing what the lower sensors look like so you can find and clean them. The upper sensors look similar, they are in the part of the head that swivels upward.

I found the DBV-200 Operations & Maintenance manual on the JCM website, it has several pictures showing how to disassemble and where the sensors are for cleaning. Some of the sensors are optic for photo id of bill, some are magnetic to detect the magnetic strip embedded in the bill.
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #27 on: July 16, 2015, 11:19:31 AM »
I did clean the upper and lower optics in my DBV-200.. I did not totally take it apart. I just released the latch holding the top half in place, then flipped it open. I cleaned everything with a window cleaner, not rubbing alcohol.. The only thing that was really dirty on mine were the rollers, the belts were not very dirty..
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2015, 01:10:14 PM »
Gary, Have you tried the DBV head test?
You'll need access to the DIP switch on the head as you will be turning the DIP switch on and off and you will need to see the blinking light on the bezel which will produce a blinking light code.
All DIP switches should be OFF for correct settings for your acceptor.
Is there a pic on the entry to show which direction the bills should be inserted?


TEST--
With POWER OFF go to bottom of the head and DIP switch DS2 which has only six switches on it and turn ON switch #6.
Now turn ON the power
Next Turn OFF the DIP switch #6 .
It should cycle.
Now put a dollar bill in it, what does it do?
It will accept or reject a bill, what did it do?
Then if there is an error there should be a blinking light code that repeats with a slight pause between each so you can double check the blink count code.  Report back.






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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2015, 03:55:45 PM »
Tim.. I took the front off my bill acceptor to get to the dip switches. When I changed #6 on the shorter dip switches, and the acceptor just cycles back and forth. The red led lights go off and on. Here are a couple pictures of where and how this DBV-200 heads mounted..

I've also included a few pics of the curcuit board attached to the DBV-200 head
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #30 on: July 16, 2015, 08:17:26 PM »
Gary, take that head totally apart and clean the optics. Dust and smoke gets in there and can cause one optic to be blocked. Also the clear lenses which the optics scan thru make sure you hold them up to the light and look thru them for dust. Also make sure the clear plastic lens is not pushed in below flush of the surface of the black plastic they are mounted in. Sometimes they get pushed in/down from cleaning. Disconnect and reconnect all the wire connections in there. I did this to a Bally and it worked.

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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #31 on: July 16, 2015, 08:37:13 PM »
Also try this test. The test I had mentioned earlier is without the head attached to the stacker. I failed to note that. Do the same test but with switch #1 off along with #6 turned off on the same bank.


With POWER OFF go to bottom of the head and DIP switch DS2 which has only six switches on it and turn ON switch #1 and #6.Now turn ON the powerNext Turn OFF only DIP switch  #6 .It should cycle.Now put a dollar bill in it, what does it do?It will accept or reject a bill, what did it do?Then if there is an error there should be a blinking light code that repeats with a slight pause between each so you can double check the blink count code.  Report back.


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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #32 on: July 16, 2015, 08:51:16 PM »
My biggest problem with try to run test is the lack of cable to work with. There is very little slack to play with, plus the way it's mounted in this frame work. They sure built a solid mount to hold the bill validator. I have 6-8 screws holding the head in place.

I'm beginning to wonder if all this work is worth the effort to just run singles, since I can't seem to locate any newer software..
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #33 on: July 21, 2015, 08:28:51 AM »
Gary, if you want to use $1 bills,  if you can locate a DBV-145 SH 004/BAR, it will work in there. I could not find one. Also looking at the pic, that green board connected to the side of the head, is it shorting out on the frame? looks really tight there.

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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #34 on: July 21, 2015, 11:47:56 AM »
Tim,
That board has a clear plastic insulator on the backside. I think the hardest part is finding a DBV Head with thE CDS programming. I wonder if Roz has any thing at their shop? Single would be perfect for this machine since it can't really be update to any of the new bills, at least with the 004/BAR software.
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #35 on: July 21, 2015, 09:15:04 PM »
Gary, I an take a look around, but I believe most of the CDS we got had WBAs. I can check for the software of nothing else. I will let you know if I find anything...don't hold your breath though, lol!
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #36 on: August 05, 2015, 10:39:26 AM »
Gary, I an take a look around, but I believe most of the CDS we got had WBAs. I can check for the software of nothing else. I will let you know if I find anything...don't hold your breath though, lol!

Were you able to locate the newer software version? I'm still looking for a replacement DBV-200 or 145 head thats from a CDS machine or VCL...

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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #37 on: August 05, 2015, 10:56:41 AM »
Gary, I an take a look around, but I believe most of the CDS we got had WBAs. I can check for the software of nothing else. I will let you know if I find anything...don't hold your breath though, lol!

Were you able to locate the newer software version? I'm still looking for a replacement DBV-200 or 145 head thats from a CDS machine or VCL...

I'm heading back outside to try the tests that Sunrise Side (Tim) suggested. I will post back later..

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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #38 on: August 05, 2015, 03:53:26 PM »
Well I thing I'm pretty much done here with this CDS machines bill acceptor. I cleaned it a second time, and tried to run a test. In test made the bill head would not stop cycling back and forth, untill I turned off the dip switches. I don't know where my problem may lie, due to the fact I don't have a second bill head to swap out. I guess it's time to close this thread since I can't locate a different bill head..
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Re: DBV-200 not taking any bills, needs cleaning bad!!
« Reply #39 on: September 15, 2015, 03:24:03 AM »
I have attached the manual for the DBV-200. On page 10 you will find the test modes. You can test it without the stacker by using the "bill registry without stacker" test.
The unit may need calibration. There are two types of JCM callibration paper. The one with holes in one end if for WBAs and should have a sticket that says that. The other is for DBV-200s and also has a sticker. Because they were obsoleted a few years ago, you may have a hard time finding the callibration paper. Maybe one of the vendors has some in stock.

 

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