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Game King Keno
« on: March 09, 2017, 09:57:21 AM »
Hi There,


Just picked up a sight-unseen Game King Keno, Multi-Game, machine.


The machine was *supposedly* working (we all know how that goes).  Looks like the touchscreen needs calibration.  Trying to turn the key twice with the door shut brings up the calibration menu, but it just sits on "Taking Ambient, Please Do Not Touch The Screen" and doesn't move passed that.  If I try to do this process with the door open, that screen stays up for a bit , but moves around the screen as if it's actually doing something and eventually it will tell me to close the door to complete the calibration.


In either case, I never get to the "press the center of the dot" to calibrate portion.


If I try to do the "test touch screen" the 'drawing' goes ALL over the screen.  Any thoughts on where to go from here?


Looks like this machine was a CRT thats been converted to an LCD at some point.  Attached are all the pictures I could get.


Thanks in advance.


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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2017, 11:23:13 AM »
Just something to start with here. Sometimes, in moving, things get wiggled out or loose. Check all your connectors starting with the plug that goes in back of the LCD as well as the other side where it plugs in the back of the machine. Do this with power OFF of course. Make sure your MPU (computer board above LCD) is plugged in fully. Just give it a firm press.
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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2017, 11:25:57 AM »
Sorry, should''ve mentioned that I already unplugged everything and checked connections.


Noticed (as you can see in the pictures), whoever made the DB9/serial connector did a pretty hack job with wires nicked and whatnot, so I replaced that, same problem.


I should probably also note that this machine does not currently have a bill validator installed, so it is throwing a bill validator error as well.  Any way I can tell it to ignore that error for now?  I'm seeing something about Netplex having issues if Bill Validator isn't there.  Maybe that's part of the problem?


Now, I'm trying to source a bill validator.  Can I use one from a Bally S5500 or I have a few megatouch machines that have bill validators, perhaps I can use one of those?




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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2017, 11:30:29 AM »
Did you get a key/clear chip with it? I have a game king and it's not that hard to do the clear and then go through the settings to tell it there's not BV, for now. But you did say it was supposedly "working" when you bought it?
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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 11:57:49 AM »
You cannot use a validator from a Bally unless you change the firmware on the validator to IDO024.  Depending on the brand, that may not even be possible.

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 12:46:22 PM »
I don't know anything about a clear chip at the moment.  Unless it was on the board when I got it, I don't have it.


Where do I get one?  I'm assuming eBay and how do I determine which one I need? 

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2017, 12:47:36 PM »
Also, if I have an EEPROM burner, can I download the clear chip image from somewhere?

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2017, 01:18:03 PM »
Post a picture of your mpu and we will be able to tell what clear chip to use.
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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2017, 02:59:57 PM »
attached board pic

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2017, 03:21:26 PM »
There's no labels on your EPROMs to determine what software it's running.  You can get that information from the menu system though.  Press the MPU self Test button, then touch the accounting button, then Program Version Accounting.  Take a picture of that screen and we can find the right key.


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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2017, 03:34:07 PM »
Thanks Tilt, but that's the problem.  My touchscreen isn't working properly.  Is there any way to control the menu system without it?


It was recommended to clear the board to reset everything to see if the touchscreen issue is with the controller or monitor or board/settings.

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2017, 03:47:50 PM »
Ah ok.  I thought it was just out of calibration but still working.  It's a long shot that a keychip would help with your problem anyhow.  It's probably the touchscreen or the controller causing your problem.  Can you see any damage to the touchscreen?  If not I'd look for another controller and see if that fixes the issue.  That's an older style one you have.

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2017, 04:03:37 PM »
i wouldn't mind try another controller... any ideas where I could get one fairly inexpensive to test with?

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2017, 04:12:21 PM »
I think I may have one that I removed from an old CRT.  I'll dig around a little tomorrow and see if I can find it.

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #14 on: March 10, 2017, 05:57:15 PM »
i wouldn't mind try another controller... any ideas where I could get one fairly inexpensive to test with?

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #15 on: March 11, 2017, 08:03:58 PM »
OK, I found a touchscreen board like yours in my spare parts bin.  It worked when I pulled it is all I can tell you about it.  If you'd like to give it a shot in your machine PM me an address to send it to.  If it works then make a contribution to NLG in the amount that it's worth to you.  If it doesn't fix it then sent it back.  Fair enough?



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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2017, 09:47:46 PM »
Thats great!  Thanks Tilt!  Will do.,

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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #17 on: March 12, 2017, 07:22:26 PM »
For the record you have a 3802 board, so you will need a key 17.  Not sure if a key 22 would work as well.  I've never had a 3802 board so I've never tried that combination.  But key 17 was the earlier one.
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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #18 on: March 16, 2017, 08:07:26 AM »
Does anyone have an electrical diagram for my machine?  Or, any thoughts on how I could test this other touchscreen LCD panel I have?


I'm assuming the DB9/Serial connection is fairly straight forward/standardized, but how would I get the video-out off the backplane, and into the SVGA connection on the monitor I have?  I don't mind wiring my own rig to test this. . . just need to know what wires go where.

Attached some photos to assist.  Thanks!


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Re: Game King Keno
« Reply #19 on: March 16, 2017, 12:30:04 PM »
Wiring/schematic diagrams attached.  Your LCD will not be in there as the machine originally had a CRT monitor in it.  Your LCD kit looks like it was something that someone put together themselves?  You said that you were having bill validator communication errors as well.  The touchscreen and bill validator are Netplex devices and share the same bus.  If one is bad it can cause problems for the other.  Try pulling your bill validator out and see if the touchscreen works.  If not, disconnect the netplex connector from the touchscreen controller and see if the bill validator communication error clears.  The Netplex connector is J100.  Make sure to turn off the power when disconnecting things. 

Where does the other end of that DB25 connector go (the one with the frayed black nylon casing)?  To the monitor shelf connector?  If you can take a picture of it.

I sent the controller out Monday, it should have already been there.  Looks like USPS screwed up delivering it, not sure if it was because of the snowstorm out that way, but I wouldn't think so since it hasn't left Michigan yet.
 
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