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How picky are coin comparitors?
« on: October 19, 2017, 09:48:51 AM »
If all goes well,  I will be picking up an S+ slot..  This will be my first "high tech" machine.   I own a 1934 mills, and a Bally EM....   

One thing that just occurred to me is,  How picky are the Comparitors?  It is a quarter slot,  but over the years, The US Mint has produced "State Quarters".  Are these comparitors picky enough to reject a "State A" quarter if I have a "State B" quarter in the Comparitor?

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Re: How picky are coin comparitors?
« Reply #1 on: October 19, 2017, 10:58:30 AM »
I haven't worked on coin slots in a while but I think most comparators have a pot adjustment for sensitivity on the front.  Someone else may know more.

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Re: How picky are coin comparitors?
« Reply #2 on: October 19, 2017, 11:06:34 AM »
I haven't worked on coin slots in a while but I think most comparators have a pot adjustment for sensitivity on the front.  Someone else may know more.

TJ is right. Most have a sensitivity adjustment. I use lots of different quarters. I've never had a problem with a regular quarter or the state quarters. I doubt it will give you a problem but the adjustment screw is usually right on the face of the comparator.

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Re: How picky are coin comparitors?
« Reply #3 on: October 19, 2017, 11:08:31 AM »
Yes they have a adjustment for the sensitivity
No problems for the different coins as long as it is the same diameter

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Re: How picky are coin comparitors?
« Reply #4 on: October 19, 2017, 11:40:36 AM »
The coin comparator is looking for metal content that matches the sample coin.
Mint(s) do a great job of ensuring that all of the state quarters, and whatever else is stamped on them conform to certain metal content, size and weight.

I am in Canada - $1 coin called is called a Loonie, due to the national bird (a loon) cast on one side. Our two dollar coin is called a Toonie. It is made of two different metals.
During one circulation run the center metal was replaced with a phosphorous version that glowed in the dark. The metal properties remained consistent.
One joke that went around is that bi-metallic elements give off small amounts of electricity - so it is suggested that if you are wearing a pace maker you should never carry more than $730 in your breast pocket.

We retired our $1, $2 paper money about 10 years ago and the penny has been abandoned about 3 years ago. In cash transactions we round up or down for the benny, but credit/debit transactions remain accurate. There is discussion about changing our $5.00 bill to a coin as well but I have not heard much about that as of late. Our other paper money all have see through sections printed on polymer with holographic images embedded in the see through areas.

Coming back to the comparator's - I use Tokens in mine and not real money. The metal content varies quite a bit, and with the exception of one particular series of token I am able to adjust any rejection.
On occasion the sample coin has dead on me. I think it becomes magnetized or de-magnetized (or something ??) and I have to replace it with a new token.

I have a casino toke box screwed on at the end of my bar. I dump in the dead coins and (worthless) novelty chips that I occasionally pick up. Just a decoration.

There also third party options for coin comparitors. Typically 1 coin (regardless of coin) = 1 credit. The momnix (??spelling) which is a non powered plastic validator that measures size and weight - doesn't use a sample coin. I bought one S+ that had this. I pitched it.

There are also programmable coin comparitors that allow you to use a variety of coins. You program it by putting in various coins and telling it what you want it to do. Ie You could have a penny machine but when you insert a quarter it gives 25credits. Or if its a quarter machine it takes 25 pennies before it gives a credit. You can also program that 1 quarter = 1 credit, but 3 quarters = 4 credits. On the flip side of this your coin hopper won't like this very much at all and assuming it doesn't jam would have no ability to know if its paying out 10 quarters or a mixture of 10 random coins.



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Re: How picky are coin comparitors?
« Reply #5 on: October 19, 2017, 04:08:34 PM »
......We retired our $1, $2 paper money about 10 years ago and the penny has been abandoned about 3 years ago. In cash transactions we round up or down for the benny, but credit/debit transactions remain accurate. There is discussion about changing our $5.00 bill to a coin as well but I have not heard much about that as of late. Our other paper money all have see through sections printed on polymer with holographic images embedded in the see through areas......

Was the official reason for retiring the $1, $2 paper money because metal coins last much longer than paper so it costs the government less in the long run? Or maybe some other reason. Curious why they did this, must be some logic to it, as our northern neighbors don't do anything flippant, eh?

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Re: How picky are coin comparitors?
« Reply #6 on: October 19, 2017, 06:27:30 PM »
It sure looks like this topic was hijacked

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Re: How picky are coin comparitors?
« Reply #7 on: October 19, 2017, 06:35:57 PM »
It sure looks like this topic was hijacked

Guilty as charged, it looked like the OP question had been answered and the discussion was at a close.
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