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No diagrams for Bally 1096
« on: January 31, 2018, 09:10:32 PM »
I'm new to the the world of EM slots & to this forum so please advise me if I'm doing something wrong. I have a Bally 1096-89. I can't find wiring diagrams or switch location info specific to the 1096. The manuals I've read explain in detail the operation & repair of many models but not the 1096. IE: Check coin switch adjustment. How do i locate that switch? Please advise. Skol Vikes (next year).
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #1 on: February 01, 2018, 09:43:05 AM »
is the 1096 a dollar machine ? if so it should be similar to the 1090, the coin switch you are referring to do you mean the coin in switch ? which is the little wire switch that the coin hits when it exits the coin mechanism and is located in the middle of the door....

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #2 on: February 01, 2018, 10:56:21 AM »
Thanks Dave for the fast reply. It takes tokens about the size of a silver dollar (does that make it a 1090?) . Token just drops straight through. There is a solenoid in the upper right (behind glass) that buzzes each time I move the wire on that coin switch. The "coin accepted" light does not come on. If photos of any part of the machine will help, I will send them.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #3 on: February 01, 2018, 11:02:11 AM »
You can use a standard Bally EM manual to trouble shoot your machine. You will need to pull out the reels and clean and inspect the lower set of switches. That's the coin switch/relay. You will also need the clean the beau plugs that connect the reels and hopper to the cabinet wiring. The contacts are silver and silver plated, so don't sand them.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #4 on: February 01, 2018, 03:08:26 PM »
Gary is right, follow his lead, some pictures of what is buzzing might be helpful as well....

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #5 on: February 01, 2018, 04:32:15 PM »
Reel assembly won't slide out. Moved the 2 locking levers forward and pulled as hard as I dared. What's holding it? I was able to get the hopper out ok. I will be posting pics.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #6 on: February 01, 2018, 04:46:01 PM »
make sure the handle is not interferring with it - cycle the machine by holding the "dog" (pin protruding up from top of handle gear box) - if you move the handle back and forth you will see that "dog" move - just hold it forward and pull the handle. If the reel cycles then handle not problem.
If still unable to remove the mechanism - you need 2 screw drives wedge into front of mechanism and tray and gently pry forward. 

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #7 on: February 01, 2018, 07:31:02 PM »
If the handle is not interfering with it, it could be that the beau plugs are all corroded up and that is where it is sticking, I had one that I almost pulled the machine over trying to get it out it was so corroded, but it did come out. Just a thought...


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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #8 on: February 01, 2018, 07:56:21 PM »
Got it with the screwdrivers. I agree it was the plugs. The contacts have a milky looking corrosion. What's the best way to clean them and the female plug in the machine? Are these the silver plated ones? Also how to clean the switch contacts.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #9 on: February 01, 2018, 08:29:14 PM »
I use a brass fine wire brush on the male plugs and rolled up 400 grit sandpaper on the female ends, but there are far better ways to do it, I am sure that some of the guys with more experience will chip in with some good ideas....

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #10 on: February 01, 2018, 08:50:09 PM »
Here's a pic of the 1096

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2018, 08:55:13 PM »
actually it is a 1090 - 3 coin game - 1096 is a 5 coin -  wire diagram for the 1090 will work

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2018, 10:30:14 PM »
I use a brass fine wire brush on the male plugs and rolled up 400 grit sandpaper on the female ends, but there are far better ways to do it, I am sure that some of the guys with more experience will chip in with some good ideas....

Dave


I agree with Dave. Use the soft brass wire brush or a green scotch bright pad. The 400 grit wet dry sandpaper will work on the female plugs. I like to spray mine with WD-40 before and after cleaning both plugs. Make sure to wipe up any access. You will be surprised how easy the reels and hopper will come out after cleaning.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #13 on: February 02, 2018, 07:49:49 PM »
I cleaned reel assembly & hopper. It worked for about 15 plays. Coin accepted light is on. Winner paid light is on. Seems like the hopper should be moving but it doesn't. I also noticed the agitator is gummy like clay. Could it have gotten hot enough to melt it? Are there just the 2 door switches to bypass to operate with the door open? Maybe then I could observe the hopper motor. Thank you again for your help. I do appreciate it.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #14 on: February 02, 2018, 08:13:09 PM »
Photo of front when it locked up.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #15 on: February 02, 2018, 08:50:06 PM »
I cleaned reel assembly & hopper...... I also noticed the agitator is gummy like clay. Could it have gotten hot enough to melt it?
.....BTW, I did make a donation on 12/18/17.

I think the hopper's rubber agitator can deteriorate over the decades and get really soft and gummy. There are replacements available for most hoppers. I don't think your machine got hot enough to melt it, although I suppose it could have been stored in an enclosed metal building in the desert for a while. It can get over 115 degrees outdoors in that part of the USA, so inside a metal building who knows how hot it can get. I don't know about your machine but many models have a selftest step that will cause the hopper to eject 10 coins for testing purposes.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #16 on: February 02, 2018, 09:33:06 PM »
That's normal for the hopper star. They can be bought on EBay or at Klar on the home page. Your going to find a air cylinder on the right side of the reels. It's white or beige in color. Inside is a cup seal that will be as bad as the hopper star. Remove the air cylinders 4 screws and E-Clip and pin to remove the assembly. I clean the inside with rubbing alcohol, then just apply a very thin layer of grease in the piston and reassemble. You sound like you still have cleaning to do to contacts. Sometimes just cleaning them once doesn't do the job. Best was to know if the contacts are working is to test them with a multi-meter to check the connection. Take your time you will get it working.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #17 on: February 04, 2018, 03:42:19 PM »
Making a little more sense. Works fine until payout then locks up with a constant buzzing sound from upper cabinet bell. Unplugged it, no help.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #18 on: February 04, 2018, 07:18:22 PM »
That coil is burnt to a crisp, you can even see some burn on the nylon shaft, show us some pictures of the coils in the upper cabinet, also check the break on the hopper motor and see if it is free or still engaged which will not let the hopper run...

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #19 on: February 04, 2018, 08:40:03 PM »
I thought the gong chime was only used for coin in sounds? If someone install a gong where a bell should be, that would explain the fried coil..
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