Author Topic: S+ reel error 41-43 (Read 8665 times)

Dragnwzrd · « **on:** April 09, 2014, 07:06:13 PM »

Hello, new slot owner here. I bought a double diamond deluxe single line 3 reel machine. It gets error codes 41 42 and 43 constantly. I don't even change the wires all I do is open door, use Jp reset and close door and it will read either 41, 42 or 43 randomly. I bought 3 new reels numbered 2, 2, and 3, put my reel strips in them, installed in the machine and still get one if the three errors all the time. Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

tjlee · « **Reply #1 on:** April 09, 2014, 07:27:03 PM »

I had same problem not long ago. I changed out the MPU in it and it stopped. The can capacitors in these boards go bad with age and may be the problem you are having too. It was easier and cheaper just to change the whole board than to troubleshoot the board that was in it. Just a thought on my part. Good luck!!!

CVslots · « **Reply #2 on:** April 09, 2014, 10:02:11 PM »

Reel issues are best identified by swapping a known good reel with other "unknown" reels. So you have to isolate it....that being said...

DISREGARD the little stickers on the reels. This was simply for Slot Techs to be get the reels back into the right slots....YOU are not a slot tech, and your machine is NOT in a casino any longer. Who knows what has happened meanwhile. Reels are reels...you could run with all 1s or all 3s.

Since you are getting a 41, 42, 43...there is either a problem with the physical location of your reels (are they ALL the way plugged in? They need to be FIRMLY seated!!! There could be a physical obstruction.). Have you changed/adjusted ANYTHING in the front of the machine that could have touched or obstructed the reels in anyway? Like glass, display, etc? If not, problem is, most likely, in the reel harness itself and NOT the reels. Is the reel harness happily seated in the motherboard? (Long black plug, plugs into smaller green board at bottom back of machine). WHAT is the chance, that 3 reels go out SIMULTANEOUSLY??? Yah, about 0-5%, on a good day.

PLUG and re-plug your reel harness and report back!

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #3 on:** April 10, 2014, 09:38:58 AM »

Thanks for the responses, the only thing I did was take all 3 old reels out, change the strips to 3 new reels and put them back in. It does look like at some point the reels might hit the green board attached to the door where all the LEDs are, but I have the reels pushed in as far as humanly possible, how can I fix that? Could I have the wrong reels? They look exactly like the ones I took out but they weren't working to begin with either. Is there a way I can run the machine with the door open to see if they spin freely?

CVslots · « **Reply #4 on:** April 10, 2014, 10:40:32 AM »

To run the machine with the door open, you can use the test button (probably not the name of it, but it's what I'm calling it for now) on the coin comparitor.

Open the door and you will see your coin comparitor (most likely it's a black box in a metal frame). Below the black box, there is a green circuit board. On that board is a tiny (like 1/16" x 1/8") white rectangle. Push this little guy and you will hear the ding of a credit being added, as if you dropped in a coin. LEAVE DOOR OPEN, and hit SPIN.

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #5 on:** April 10, 2014, 05:20:53 PM »

Ok so.....I removed the reel strips, and got the door led in tighter so the reels do not hit it anymore. I can get anywhere from 7-12 pulls on it before getting a 41-43 code now. Another prob is when I try the open door thing I get a 21 code, bad comparator? Lastly the machine doesn't clear codes 90 percent of the time by opening and closing the door I have to use the Jp key to reset it. /sigh

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #6 on:** April 10, 2014, 05:35:51 PM »

Here are my strips, any idea if they are correct and what order do they belong?

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #7 on:** April 10, 2014, 05:37:05 PM »

Few more pics

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #8 on:** April 10, 2014, 05:38:57 PM »

knagl · « **Reply #9 on:** April 10, 2014, 05:59:23 PM »

The order of the reel strips is a moot point right now. We'll get them back on there properly once the reel error issue is fixed.

It could be your MPU board, as tjlee mentioned, or it could be something silly like having the wrong chips on your board. If you are using 16mhz chips on a 10mhz board, or vice-versa, you will likely get crazy reel errors all the time.

What kind of MPU board do you have, 10mhz or 16mhz? What SP chip is on your board?

To determine the board you have, turn the power OFF, remove the hopper, then remove the board enclosure by lifting up on the black plastic knob. The 10mhz boards have a small blue volume knob that sticks out through the metal enclosure, and a bank of DIP switches on the board. The 16mhz boards do not have the volume knob, and no DIP switches. If you're not sure, post a picture of the board here.

While you have the board out, please look at the chips and tell us the numbers on the GAME ("SP") and REEL ("SS") chips. Those can help tell us if you have the right chips for your board, and also will help us to determine the order of the reel strips once we get your issue resolved.

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #10 on:** April 10, 2014, 06:14:44 PM »

Looks like it's the 10

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #11 on:** April 10, 2014, 06:15:44 PM »

Did these help?

Buzz · « **Reply #12 on:** April 10, 2014, 06:32:52 PM »

Reel strips 1 & 3 are exactly the same strip, #2 is the odd one.

CVslots · « **Reply #13 on:** April 10, 2014, 07:59:29 PM »

Just my 2 cents, and I'm throwing it out there, but I think there's something funky with the door closing (or should I say, the door THINKING its open or THINKING its closed)

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knagl · « **Reply #14 on:** April 10, 2014, 10:25:05 PM »

Well phooey, I thought it was going to be a chip. Yes, that's a 10mhz board, and your SP1271 is for a 10mhz board.

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #15 on:** April 11, 2014, 09:54:03 AM »

I will try to fiddle with the door, so the board is good u think? And the 21 code when opening the door is a bad comparator? The white button does nothing, even when resetting with Jp key.

Buzz · « **Reply #16 on:** April 11, 2014, 11:07:15 AM »

A couple of no's here. The 21 error has nothing to do with the comparator, matter of fact there is no such thing of a comparator error on a S + machine. The coin optics right below the comparator is what produces the coin in error. I've used the PSEUDO coin button many times and never got a 21 error, so I don't know why you are, but why do we care ?/ You have a working machine, but are getting a boat load of reel tilts.. Let's work on the reels and not worry about the other things.

I think you have the reels installed correct, as I recall IGT on a S + didn't give you any room to install the plugs at the bottom of the reels, if you have the plugs on the reels then the reels are in as far as they will go. I can only guess that something is hitting the reels causing the reel tilts. Try this, remove the reel glass and test the machine and see if the tilts go away. With the glass removed you will see what ever is hitting the reels, my guess it's the wire from the reel glass light.

Dragnwzrd · « **Reply #17 on:** April 11, 2014, 01:22:12 PM »

I will give that a whirl soon as I get home. One weird thing I notice on the 2nd reel no matter which reel is in its spot is it kinda bounces a little while 1 and 3 are moving up or down if you land on the bars with the diamond in them.

tjlee · « **Reply #18 on:** April 11, 2014, 01:54:05 PM »

Sounds to me like the reel motor has lost its magnetism. Buzz's suggestion is a good one. Both loss of magnetism and reel drag can cause a tilt. I had a slot here not too long ago that had the reel bounce you mention and it constantly tilted.

Buzz · « **Reply #19 on:** April 11, 2014, 01:58:21 PM »

That's called a nudge when the reels move up or down.

If removing the reel glass doesn't help, switch the wires from #2 reel to #3 and see if the ( your words )" bounces " follow the #2 plug. You may wish to mark the plugs before you go switching them around.

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Author Topic: S+ reel error 41-43 (Read 8665 times)