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CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« on: August 08, 2016, 06:29:58 PM »
My F2 was working yesterday. I flipped it on today and got a CALL ATTENDANT message on the screen. I checked the MPU battery - it's fine. I pulled out both top boards and reseated them, reseated chips. The funny thing is the music still plays every minute.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #1 on: August 08, 2016, 07:09:06 PM »
Do you have the reset key for it?
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #2 on: August 08, 2016, 07:15:39 PM »
yes
Nothing happened.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #3 on: August 08, 2016, 08:28:42 PM »
I know that the ram board has a switch, on/off I believe, but I don't remember how to use it
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #4 on: August 08, 2016, 11:48:03 PM »
Is the reset key switch connected ?? I would check the wires at the back of it. Perhaps a wire fell off or the wires go no where.

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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #5 on: August 09, 2016, 02:46:20 PM »
Thanks Gary - I will check with badbaud.

Jay - Yes I used it with the test functions. Turning the key to the right enabled whatever was being tested. But it does turn left. For some reason I know I had checked that when I first got the machine but I'll dig in there and check again.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #6 on: August 09, 2016, 06:17:48 PM »
It's wired... well there's two wires to it. It was working before. When I bought it, it just needed a battery and there was a broken wire going to the CC... after that, it worked fine.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #7 on: August 09, 2016, 08:16:17 PM »
There is a "reset" switch on the RAM board.
It is used to clear the RAM chip of any garbage.
The position it is at now is at non-clear, normal game operation.
All you have to do is turn the machine off then flip the switch to the other position and leave it there for about 3 minutes.
Then flip the switch back and turn the machine on.

You will probably get a CMOS error and turning the reset key switch will clear that.

Worse case you may have to remove the RAM chip from it's socket, lay its legs on some bare metal for a minute or so then plug it back into the socket.
Sounds like your original problem was caused by a dirty RAM chip socket. Removing it and plugging it back in will clean the contacts enough.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #8 on: August 09, 2016, 09:00:21 PM »
Does it matter if the MPU is pulled out of the machine when you do the reset switch? I have a machine with a similar problem, but my cards graphics are not correct, and I also see a CMOS message on the screen.. The Ram chip you refer to is the one on the Ram board.. I tried flipping the switch, but not for as long as your saying.. Also my machine is missing the reset key, just wires hanging there, but thats a simple fix.. I did pull the MPU and cleaned and reseated all the chips and replaced a few small caps. Did the same on the I/O..

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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #9 on: August 09, 2016, 09:16:19 PM »
There is a "reset" switch on the RAM board.
It is used to clear the RAM chip of any garbage.
The position it is at now is at non-clear, normal game operation.
All you have to do is turn the machine off then flip the switch to the other position and leave it there for about 3 minutes.
Then flip the switch back and turn the machine on.

You will probably get a CMOS error and turning the reset key switch will clear that.

Worse case you may have to remove the RAM chip from it's socket, lay its legs on some bare metal for a minute or so then plug it back into the socket.
Sounds like your original problem was caused by a dirty RAM chip socket. Removing it and plugging it back in will clean the contacts enough.

Is this the one? I tried the switch... no change. I removed that chip and layed it on metal, put it back in and still get the error.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #10 on: August 09, 2016, 10:01:26 PM »
Yea Mark that the switch, and since that's the ram board that it has to be the Ram chip.. I replaced about 4-6 small caps that were dead on my board, but no difference for me. Did you take the ram board off and clean the mounting header pins?
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2016, 10:15:33 PM »
I by no means have any experience with this series of machines......

Just as an observation: If you flipped the switch, did you try turning on the machine. I am not too sure how flipping a switch to the off position and then back to the on position would help if the machine is off the whole time.

You might also try turning the machine on with the chip out. It may generate the CMOS error and then after the chip is replaced then go through some kind of reset.

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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #12 on: August 09, 2016, 10:24:37 PM »
Hi Gary and Jay
Yes I just tried both... same thing CALL ATTENDANT
I'll try cleaning the pins again.

UPDATE:
Cleaned the pins again, no change. But the strange thing is that intermittently it wouldn't go into the test screen. But when I flipped the switch off and on, and restarted the machine, I would be able to put it back in test mode. Also the attract music would return as well but still have the CALL ATTENDANT screen. I wonder if I just have a bad CMOS chip?
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2016, 12:05:55 AM »
All the switch does is disconnect the RAM from the battery
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2016, 08:10:54 AM »
Well it powers up and plays music and that's it. Nothing changed. Any other ideas?  :Scratch-Head:
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2016, 08:15:18 AM »
The next suggestion would be to remove the 4 game chips near the RAM board, clean the pins with a pink eraser and re-insert to see if that helps.

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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #16 on: August 10, 2016, 08:22:27 AM »
 :thank_you:

It's interesting that the attract music plays on - I hope it might be the game chips. I did wiggle everything but when I get home this afternoon, I'll pull them out and clean them.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #17 on: August 10, 2016, 09:52:39 AM »
Generally the sounds mean the machine has registered a win and is perhaps in a hand pay state waiting for the jackpot reset.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #18 on: August 10, 2016, 12:56:57 PM »
Turning the key switch WITH THE DOOR CLOSED should have cleared that.
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Re: CALL ATTENDANT - I called but no one came!
« Reply #19 on: August 10, 2016, 01:29:00 PM »
I agree - but going back to my first conjecture - follow the wires from the key switch....
Continuity test of those wires.... etc
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