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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #20 on: April 06, 2017, 08:29:32 AM »
Can you remove the 2 wires from the cherry switch and touch them together to see if "door open" message will appear?

You may not need to use a multimeter to figure this out.

If you do not want to disconnect the speaker wire you can tape a piece of cardboard over the speaker holes in the coin tray, that may reduce the sound better than just tape alone.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #21 on: April 06, 2017, 04:36:28 PM »
Another info or idea could it be the missing wire that goes into
The bill acceptor? It's a wide black one and hangs under the validator
Without being connected !
If I follow the wire from the cherry switch it goes  behind the two cards in the card box
/case
Can I remove Those two cards without making a clear ram process like with my bally alpha v32
When /for example/ battery went low????


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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #22 on: April 06, 2017, 06:48:38 PM »
See reply #20 above, let me know how it goes.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #23 on: April 07, 2017, 01:29:07 AM »
This is what i did yesterday thought. my post about it was printed here
I put / in Germany we call it Tesafilm / over it looks not so nice but ok
I will write again when i got the voltmeter to check if there is electricity on the
Wires that goes to the cherry switch thy

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #24 on: April 07, 2017, 05:04:24 AM »
Going back to the original issue with the locks, some casinos use dual access locks for the cashbox compartments.  That Medco lock is a secure lock, normally casinos don't leave them in slot machines.  If one of ours gets loose like that, State would make us rekey and change out all of our locks of the same type.  As far as them being drill proof, that's hardly the case.  10 minutes and I'd have one drilled out using commercially available drill bets made for metal. 


The lock on the right looks like a shipping lock to me, but that's just what I see in the photo.  It could very well be another secure lock from the casino.  Hard to tell without knowing the history of the machine, if it came right out from a casino or if it was bought 2nd hand from another hobbyist. 

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #25 on: April 07, 2017, 05:25:03 AM »
This is what i did yesterday thought. my post about it was printed here

I didn't see a post from you about taking the 2 wires off the cherry switch and touching them together to see if the "door open" message will appear?? I just looked again but still do not see it, which post reply # was it?  It is simple to do, just pull the 2 wires off the cherry switch and touch them together while machine is powered ON. If "door open" message appears then cherry switch is bad. If "door open" message does not appear then the machine has other problem.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #26 on: April 08, 2017, 03:44:51 AM »
today I tried to look where the wires go in the. machine I touched a pair of wires suddenly
The machine goes into tilt mode I cannot remember the words in the front door something with dot .....?
Perhaps the wires are bad?????

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #27 on: April 11, 2017, 11:52:11 PM »
If the machine is still in a tilt mode, you'll need to tell us exactly what the error message says so we can provide you with correct information.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #28 on: April 12, 2017, 05:25:04 AM »
Hello!
The machine works fine but

1. i cannot open the cashbox because of the missing key to it s lock   BUT i know a friend who will break try to open the lock that i can use the bill acceptor
I put the cable into the hole under the acceptor and it works there are green lights on the front that do flashlights......seems the solution to break the lock and then use the acceptor
it takes only our old EURO bills but whatever .........OK!!!!
2. Normally when i open a door of a machine it goes in Service Modus and the WMS should say: DOOR OPEN in the front window......but my machine stays always in the active Player mode i can Play games with door is open
A other member here told me to try to check if power of 5 Volt goes to the wires that are behind the White cherry Switch and i have really a friend who has a machine to check if power is running through those wires....but i will see him after the easter Party
The same guy told me to take the two wires an touch them to see if the cherry Switch is bad either if there is power.....but i think that i have to cut those wires.... and this i don t wanna do better for me is to wait till i get this power checking machine and then let you and him know what the result of it is.......

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Your Homepage and yor Forum is so great for Slot Collectors like me without having the understanding of what all is inside such a machine I ONLY WANNA COLLECT THEM AND LOVES TO PLAY THEM!


PS: I already have a wonderful Bally Alpha V32 Video Slot from 2014 directly from LAS VEGAS and since last week a WMS Dotmatrix 40x Big Piggy Bankin Slotmachine :O)

I have an other question.....is there any Meeting of Slot Fans in europe? Where i can get new contacts to other crazy SLOTFANS in europe :O)

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #29 on: April 19, 2017, 06:18:23 AM »
Today a friend opened the cash box with a flex
Now I have to try if the bill acceptor still works
He had to crack four locks!!!!! Finally he did it good;)


To your question what electricity runs through the both wires
That are going to the cherry switch is my answer ZERO


So there Must be a major problem with those wires because there is no
Electricity in it. What should I do next ? Anyone an idea ?????

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #30 on: April 19, 2017, 09:48:30 AM »
It s me again I checked the acceptor but it doesn't accept any bill
Lot frustrated ;( anyone knows what to do?thanks

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #31 on: April 19, 2017, 03:16:35 PM »
As I said I checked the electricity here is a foto from today result :0.00 ;(

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #32 on: April 21, 2017, 08:23:33 AM »
Here are Fotos of the wires where i think they go to other switches at the right side

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2017, 02:37:33 AM »
I will give it up before I destroy wires cables and so on thank you all that
Tried to help me

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2017, 11:10:11 AM »
I am willing to give advice and suggestions, but you must please follow my instructions.

Open the main door.

Remove the 2 wires that connect to the cherry switch. The ends of the wires are attached to pink slide-on connectors that slide on the cherry switch terminals. Remove both wires for the following test.

Power-up (turn on) the machine.

Use a voltmeter (multimeter) to measure the voltage on the wires. Put the meter's black test lead so it is touching one of the wires and the meter's red test lead touching the other wire. You should see 3 volts dc.

Report your findings.

Next, turn off the machine. Set the multimeter to "ohms" or continuity. Put the meter leads on the top 2 terminals (or the bottom 2 terminals) of the cherry switch where the wires are normally attached. You should see zero ohms, which is continuity, or a "switch closed" status of the cherry switch terminals. Next pull out on the cherry switch white plunger, then measure the 2 terminals again. Now it should be in the "switch open" status , or no continuity, or infinite ohms.

Report your findings.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2017, 12:35:56 PM »
As I said I checked the electricity here is a foto from today result :0.00 ;(

In this photo you posted earlier you have the multimeter set to measure "AC volts".  This is wrong, it should be set to "DC volts".

Also, it looks like the red multimeter lead is connected to the "10 amp" jack instead of the voltage jack. This "10 amp" jack is only for measuring current (amps), you won't get a voltage measurement this way.

Show a complete photo of your multimeter and I can explain further.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #36 on: April 24, 2017, 12:48:54 PM »
Here are Fotos of the wires where i think they go to other switches at the right side

The wires in this photo you posted have nothing to do with the cherry switch. The wires are connected to switches that sense when the pull handle on the side of the machine is pulled downward.

The 2 wires from the cherry switch run to the back of the machine and get connected to the backplane board mounted on the rear wall, behind the card cage. You can follow these 2 cherry switch wires carefully with your hand and eyes, make sure they connect at the backplane board.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #37 on: April 24, 2017, 11:03:22 PM »
Ok what i will do finally is a video of the inside
Of my machine give me a day or two and i will
Email it to your Adress. thx ;)

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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #38 on: April 25, 2017, 05:39:24 AM »
Did you follow the wires from the cherry switch back to see if they connect to the backplane?

Did you measure the voltage on the 2 wires that connect to the cherry switch using the instructions I posted in reply #34?

No need to do anything else until this is done.
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Re: WMS Big Piggy Bankin Slot bill acceptor key missing
« Reply #39 on: July 11, 2017, 04:31:35 PM »
Here are pics of my bill acceptor that doesn t take any banknotes perhaps you see the problem why i doesn t work?


 

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