IGT S+ Bill Acceptors HELP

[Akriegs]

I picked up a few Craigslist specials for IGT s+ games. I am looking to replace DBV on both. How do i know what validators to use?
 i already have 2 working machine that use differnt DBV's one is a dbv-200 the other is dbv-145.

 What is the difference between them and are they interchangeable?


I also have a dbv-45 on 1 of the broken machine that sound like it wants to work but will not suck up any currency.
Is anyone selling any for a decent price?
Also looking for a 25 IGT s+ hopper.
Please message me with details.

[therockinelvis]

If your DBV 200 and 145 are working but only on old money, you have to decide if it bothers you. Quite often you can remove the transport and turn the gears by hand to get them working again. Sitting make the belts get stuck in their bends and they don't turn. There is a definite sound you're wanting to hear to see if they are cycling right. There is a youtube on the dbv200 cycling. Also if the machine has been cleared it will need the validator turned back on in settings with a set chip. You can check this by pushing the white test button until a 2 or a 5 is in the left window, then turn the jp key until it is a 9. If you see 9-0 it is off and 9-1 it is on. I have some in machines that take up to the big head 20. Finding old style 50 and 100 at banks is not tough. The upgrade is changing to WBA 12 and they take up to the last 100 before the latest one. The WBA route is about $100. cost to upgrade.

[rokgpsman]

I picked up a few Craigslist specials for IGT s+ games. I am looking to replace DBV on both. How do i know what validators to use?
 i already have 2 working machine that use differnt DBV's one is a dbv-200 the other is dbv-145.

The main difference between a DBV-145 and a DBV-200 is the -145 only accepts a bill 1 particular way. The bill has to be inserted face up and with the top of the portrait head to the left. (I think that's correct).

The -200 has what is called 4-way acceptance, meaning you can insert a bill any way you want, face up, face down, portrait facing left or right. Another difference is that since the -200 is the newer model it had software updates later in time. Neither is getting updates anymore but in some instances a -200 will accept a few more bills still in use than the -145 will.

These bill validators are made by a company called JCM, but they are used in a variety of machines made by different companies. Each company has a different communication method for the machine's mpu (processor) board to "talk" to the bill validator. So inside the bill validator is software loaded into a chip that customizes the bill validator for that particular machine. This communication method is called the ID protocol, it has a number such as ID-023 or ID-003. For the IGT S+ machines ID-023 is used. If you look at your DBV heads that work in your S+ slot you may see a sticker with the marking "ID-023" or something similar.

Usually, but not always, there is a label or sticker on the DBV saying what ID protocol it is programmed with. But over time sometimes someone will reprogram the software to a different ID protocol for another machine and not change the label. On the DBV-200 you can turn it upside down and view the eprom or flash rom, sometimes there is a label on it. For the DBV-145 you have to take off part of the housing to view the rom inside.

The DBV-200 is a direct replacement for the DBV-145, as long as you get one that has the same ID protocol  (ID-023 in this case). You can remove the DBV "head" of the bill validator unit, leaving the transport and other housing components and install another "head" easily. If you find a good working DBV-200 that you want to use but it is the wrong ID protocol the -023 software can often be loaded into it. The last DBV-200 heads were made with either an eprom or a flash rom to hold the software. Those with an eprom can have software updates done by anyone with an eprom burner. Those with flash rom require a more elaborate setup using a special cable and programming software from JCM.