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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #20 on: April 04, 2016, 01:48:56 PM »
Summary:

I was able to successfully add the Jackpot to Credits key switch and it works exactly as I expected and wanted it to. This switch allows me to set the jackpot limit to the customary $1199.99, which when exceeded, the game will lock up, flash the candle and play a congratulatory song. In a casino, this also means signing a W2G (boo!) and getting paid in cash by hand (yay!). At home, we don't play for real money, so there are no W2Gs or hand pays, but I still want the machine to simulate that casino experience. The Jackpot to Credit or 2nd reset switch is used in the casinos on high denomination machines, where jackpots are quite frequent. Rather than hand pay, which requires an attendant to retrieve the cash from the cashier and deliver it to the player, the 2nd reset switch allows the attendant to just record the event for the eventual creation of a single W2G for the entire session, while leaving the jackpot credits on the credit meter, so the player can continue. For home use, this 2nd key is the ideal solution.

There are a few attachments already in the above discussion that are very helpful (thanks, everyone) and need not be repeated here. But, I have a few more details to add:

Parts:
- Need a standard jackpot reset keyswitch (standard slot machine part available from many of the vendors who support this forum. Thank you.)
- One wishbone or "Y" adapter to split the ground signal that is shared by both reset switches. http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/61765-2/A27891-ND/290265
- A few (only 3 if you don't screw up) crimp terminal connectors http://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/te-connectivity-amp-connectors/2-520183-2/A27817CT-ND/385291
- 22 gauge wire
- Connector pin for the I/O board socket (I was provided this pin with a wire already crimped onto it. Thanks, Tilt.) He also provided a URL link to this part in the above discussion, which thanks to his generosity, I did not have to purchase and so cannot confirm.

Do the install with the machine power OFF.

Pull out the cabinet I/O board and unscrew the two screws holding the board's connector to the machine frame. Insert the special pin into the I/O board connector socket at the empty hole, 13 A. The rows and columns on this connector are clearly marked, so make sure you're in the right place. When oriented properly, a tab on the pin will click into place and lock the pin into the connector. Unless you have the right extraction tool to push the locking pin out of the way, it's going to be difficult to back it out, so make sure of the location.

To verify that it is working correctly, turn on the power and with no credits press the operator button to get to the Setup menu. Go to Machine Options -> W2-G Setup. (Picture) You'll get a pop-up that says "Turn Credit Reset Key". (Picture) Well, we don't have one of those, yet, but if you touch the wire you just installed to a anywhere on the metal framework, it should be recognized and allow you to get to the next page. (Picture) There, you get another setting, "Upper Jackpot Limit", where 100,000 is the max and works for me. Exit and power OFF.

I needed to splice another piece of wire onto the newly installed wire to make it reach across the width of the machine and up to where the new switch would go. A twist, a drop of solder and some heat shrink tubing did the job nicely. Attach one of the crimp terminals to the end of the extended wire, and route it across the inside of the machine to the right side, near the reset switch. The existing wire bundles on my machine were pretty tight, so rather than try to fish the wire through the existing bundles, I just added a few more zip ties around them and the new wire.

You're going to need to drill a hole with flat sides to insert the key switch. Well, maybe not. I used a 3/4" hole saw, which of course gives you a round hole, not flat. (Picture) Pull the screen out of the machine first, to give yourself room to work. I drilled from the outside-in and stuck a few pieces of painters tape onto the inside of the cabinet to try and limit the amount of shavings flying around inside. Make a pilot mark on the right side of the cabinet with a punch or a nail to give the drill bit a place to settle into. The hole goes directly below the existing reset key switch, a couple inches down.

Install the 2nd key switch, by inserting it from the outside, through the hole and tighten the nut. Since the hole that was created is round, the switch body can rotate inside the hole, so make sure there's a lock washer and tighten it down sufficiently. I suggest orienting the switch so the key slot is vertical and facing the same way as the existing switch. On mine, the number on the key is visible when inserted into either one.

Identify which one of the wires on the existing reset switch are connected to ground. A continuity tester or ohm meter between the switch terminal and metal frame does the job. On my machine it was the Black/Red wire, but trust the continuity test. On yours it could be the Yellow/Green. The ground needs to be shared by both switches, so make a short jumper wire to reach from one switch to the other and crimp a connector onto each end. Pull the ground wire off of the existing switch and insert the "Y" piece in it's place. Now you have two spade terminals for ground, one is for the wire you just pulled off and the other is for the jumper. The other end of the jumper connects to the new switch you just installed and the the wire from the I/O board slides on to the other terminal of the new switch. (Picture)

To try it out, repeat the W2-G setup menu, this time turn the key when prompted and you should be given access. It works! Now play some high denomination game and see if you can get a jackpot and hear the happy music. Watch your credits, turn the 2nd key and the game should stop the music and resume play with your credits untouched!


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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #21 on: April 04, 2016, 01:52:15 PM »
Excellent follow-up report, good job!   :cool_thumb_up:
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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #22 on: April 04, 2016, 02:35:41 PM »
Dan,
Great job good information by all.

Moderator you might want to pair this down a little and sticky it for both Game King and S2000.

Rich
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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #23 on: April 04, 2016, 03:16:03 PM »
Congratulations Dan! Glad you were able to get it working the way you want it and thanks for the detailed write up!

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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #24 on: February 19, 2022, 11:01:03 AM »
I am getting ready to do this modification and have one question.  When adding the wire to the I/O board plug I am a little confused.  From what I can see in the manuals / schematics there's two I/O boards.  Door I/O and Machine Enclosure I/O board.

Which am I going to be going to?

And thank you all for researching / posting this info!

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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #25 on: February 19, 2022, 11:34:16 AM »
The Cabinet I/O board.  It's the one on the left wall of the machine.  If you have two I/O cards on the inside of the cabinet, it's the board on the left.

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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #26 on: February 19, 2022, 11:53:15 AM »
The Cabinet I/O board.  It's the one on the left wall of the machine.  If you have two I/O cards on the inside of the cabinet, it's the board on the left.
Got it, the smaller one.  Photo attached for future reference.

I'm going to look at a schematic and see if I can rob a wire out of one of these plugs to use.


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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #27 on: March 15, 2023, 08:54:36 AM »
If i'm not mistaken, it's not a second or 3rd key that's needed.
You simply need to change the settings to allow jackpots to go to the credit meter.

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Re: Jackpot to Credits key?
« Reply #28 on: March 15, 2023, 02:21:50 PM »
There is definitely a key (or momentary switch) required. It is known  as a high roller key and was used in high denomination machines since every win would be over the $1200 W2G requirement forcing a hand pay. With the high roller key the attendant would come over, record the data for the W2G pay, turn the key and the player could continue with the credits remaining on the machine. Remember if you turn the jackpot key the credits zero out. If you turn the high roller key the music stops the credits remain and normal play continues.
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