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help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« on: September 06, 2015, 07:11:24 PM »
Just got a CEI Cal Omega casino poker machine. Totally new to me and have attached a couple of pictures. Graphics across the bottom of the video screen say Corp. Cal Omega 1981. On the tag it says manufacture date 05-22-85. It works and needs a good cleaning. It will not take coins when it has credits and the bet button only will register one credit at a time, so it needs to be punched 5 times for max bet. Will not pay credits when credit button is pushed. It has a stand button, will it play black jack? I have no understanding of it programming or how to modify it functions. I have an IGT PE plus with hold buttons, this one is backwards with discard buttons. I'm interested in any manuals that might be available or information regarding the machine. Thanks.

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #1 on: September 08, 2015, 11:00:14 AM »
Any pdf files with information about this machine available?

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2015, 06:04:55 PM »
Hitting the bet button 5 times for max bet is normal. Thats so if you want to just play 1 coin youcan. Also after playing 5 coins it should deal the cards out. If you play less you will need to hit the top far left (on my machine ... deal/draw) to deal the cards. As far as everything else, I just got my machine and will be searching for inf as well. I have one with a model# with a 301 in it and it is a 804 board.
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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2015, 08:15:45 PM »
Sorry for the tardy reply. Your credit/payout process is correct and typical, but can be slightly modified via dipswitch. I'm attaching a document that explains both.

It's a straight draw poker machine; the STAND button is for when you do not wish to replace any dealt cards, such as when you are dealt a flush.

Knowing your specific game (software) would be helpful. It should be written on the EPROMs at U5 thru U9; it'll be something like 23.9, or 17.5, or like that.  If you don't want to pull the board and read the chips, give us some photos of the machine, including the inside with the control panel. Depending on the model, there's a way to read the software number on the screen by pushing those buttons in the right sequence. Such photos will also tell me if I have a manual that is right, or close, for your machine.
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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2015, 08:08:12 AM »
Hey solid,
Thanks for the response attached are more pictures. The machine is dirty haven't got to it yet and was waiting to get more info so I didn't damage something. It is labeled as a 910 motherboard. There are 5 IC chips on the front right side with white labels on the first one and last that say 23.9. I assume pulling out the board is easy from the connector on the mother board. Is it difficult to align and put back in? Also is the plastic brittle to point where I might break the board? If you have any documentation for this machine I would appreciate it. It is working, however the hopper does function properly. Probably needs to be cleaned, lubed. Does it run on 120? I see a cap on it, will check if it is okay. I also see a battery on the board. Are there replacements available. Again thanks for any help you can provide.

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2015, 11:53:37 AM »
OK, Bob, you have the early CEI "Casino Mini" with the most common game: Version 23.9, which is a "Discard" draw-poker. Your main game-board (the horizontal one) is a 904, evidenced by the little piggy-back board. That little board is a game-history memory module, and carries a backup battery. If the battery is dead, the only effect will be that when you turn it off and turn it back on later, it will have forgotten how many (if) credits you had accumulated, and the history of all games played (for dispute purposes).

Yes it runs on 110/120 VAC. The game board can be pulled directly out and reinserted, but the female connectors tend to get a pretty tight grip on it. To pull out, I usually use a small hammer on the metal support plate lip, tapping gently toward me until it releases.
For reinsertion, alignment is usually pretty good, but use a flashlight to be sure the connectors are centered and aligned (edge connectors "started" into the sockets. At that point, give the metal plate a whack with the palm of your hand, to seat the board solidly.

You have an optional KAR board stuck on the backplane: a Keep Alive Resistor board that maintains a trickle of current through the button lightbulbs even when OFF,  to keep them warm, thereby extending their life by reducing the filament temperature swing with every on/off cycle.

You also have a 3-relay board hanging off the backplane, and plugged into the PROG plug. I have never seen one, have no idea what its function is; I'll see what I can dig up.  In the meantime, where does that black cord from it go?

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2015, 01:51:32 PM »
.....You also have a 3-relay board hanging off the backplane, and plugged into the PROG plug. I have never seen one, have no idea what its function is; I'll see what I can dig up.  In the meantime, where does that black cord from it go?

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Did these machines have the ability for a Progressive feature? Maybe that is what that little 3 relay board is for??

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2015, 07:06:46 PM »
Where does the black cable go? No where, see photo. It's a coaxial cable with a large threaded connector. Maybe was tied into some sort of old dos computer network in a casino? The 3 relays are fed into the a socket on the board labeled Prog. If you have any manuals on the machine I'd like to get them. Thanks.

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2015, 07:39:45 PM »
Coaxial cable probably for data communications with casino server, or connected to an adjacent machine as part of a Progressive Bank. That could explain the 3-relay board connected to the "Prog" connector.



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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #9 on: November 26, 2015, 01:26:58 AM »
Also missing the lock and whatever type of hardware used that may have moved up and down to open and hold the door shut. Does anyone have a machine that is being cannibalized or some type of lock and mechanism that would hold the door shut?

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #10 on: December 07, 2015, 12:11:15 AM »
Looks like someone already cannibalized your machine; missing from the door is a tall vertically sliding sheet metal piece that, moved by an arm from the lock, engages/disengages those three projecting hooks on the housing.

Assuming no one has the missing piece for you, and that you do not need the original 3-hook casino-level security, you can rig something up that will do the job. The lock is an ordinary cylindrical type, same as used on gym lockers and toolboxes; you should be able to get one at your local hardware store. It will come with an assortment of actuator arms.

You need to rig up something attached to the housing that will provide a hook for a lock-arm to engage. If you can make/modify an arm long enough (none that come with the lock will be long enough), just a bolt through the housing wall will do.  Or perhaps you can cut out one of the existing hook pieces and reposition it to intercept a shorter lock arm. Or....... :Scratch-Head:

You'll have to use your imagination; and a drill; and a file; and some epoxy! (and maybe a coupla' beers... :frosty_beer:

Have fun with it; think of it as "personalizing" your machine  :)

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2015, 08:27:29 AM »
I have done a lot of work with pinballs and other coin op machines for the past 30 years. With that have accumulated a huge number of spare parts, including many locks. Was most interested in obtaining the original mechanism if possible. As you know a pinball door is small and light weight compared to the size and weight of the door on this machine. I can probably design something that will work, but it will have to be made from solid steel and not be subject to bending. Thanks.

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #12 on: December 08, 2015, 04:45:18 PM »
I'd recommend that you keep an eye out for anyone parting out or selling parts for a machine similar to yours, and maybe put up a WTB post in the Classifieds area asking for the sliding metal parts of the door locking mechanism. The lock itself and cam actuator should be available from a number of sources. The lock on many machines is 5/8 inch barrel length, but I don't know specifically what the Cal Omega uses. You could try emailing Rudy's or other vendors on the NLG homepage to see if they might have what you need. I know Rudy's has a lot of stuff that they don't list on their website and John & Nicole are helpful.

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I've bought misc chassis parts from guys that were taking a machine apart, just have to locate one. In the meantime you can probably rig something to secure the door. If you installed just the lock and cam actuator would that keep the door from opening? The sliding metal bar is probably just for increased security, the lock and cam may be enough to hold the door shut until you get the rest of the parts.



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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #13 on: December 08, 2015, 06:07:29 PM »
I just got in a Cal Omega CEI machine today.. I don't know if it's repairable or parts yet, I don't have a key to get inside.. I'm hoping one of my many keys here will open it.. Your looking for just the doors slide locking parts, you don't need the cabinet bracket?
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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #14 on: December 08, 2015, 06:58:55 PM »
It looks like the hooks are there on the cabinet chassis side, is it just the door locking slide piece that is missing?
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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #15 on: December 08, 2015, 09:27:28 PM »
Not exactly sure what is missing. I know the lock is. Yes the hooks are on the cabinet. I would say the  metal bar that slides up and down, along with the linkage from the lock cylinder and like I said the lock.

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #16 on: December 08, 2015, 11:02:47 PM »
No real linkage: the 19" long bent sheet-steel piece is pushed up directly by a short arm on the lock, and falls back down entirely by gravity.  On the inside of your door frame should be 3 welded-on screws sticking  out.  The sliding piece has slots to mount over them; it's retained by a nut and spacer. Hard to get much simpler, given the vertically sliding piece itself.

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2015, 08:12:04 AM »
Thanks for added info solid. Sounds as if I could easily fabricate the steel piece that slides up and down. I guess my only fear is that it might jam shut. Is there a lot of pressure on the steel piece when the door is shut and locked? The door is so heavy it has sagged just a little over time when it was left open, don't know if that could also add problems to fitting a new piece. Guess there's only one way to find out.

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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2015, 09:00:59 AM »
I don't have a Cal Omega to take photos of the parts, but below are photos from an IGT PE+. Your machine is different but hopefully this will give you an idea about how it works. On the PE+ machine the hooks are made into the sliding bar itself and there are slits on the chassis door frame for the hooks to slide into and grab as it slides downward. On your machine the hooks are on the chassis door frame so the sliding metal bar is made so as to slip behind the hooks and catch. It's the same idea, just implemented differently. The metal bar isn't very thick, maybe 3/16 inch but it is strong. For home use you wouldn't necessarily have to use that hardened steel. To make it easier I'd recommend getting the parts from someone parting out a machine but if that's not possible maybe you can make one.

On the machines I'm familiar with there isn't a lot of pressure on the sliding metal security bar. In fact you want it to move freely. It just drops into the locked position and keeps the door from being open. You lift it from the outside by pulling up on the chrome post near the keylock, then close the door and push the chrome post down to slide the security bar into place. When the door lock is locked a cam arm on the lock moves into position that keeps the sliding bar from being lifted.
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Re: help needed Cal Omega casino poker
« Reply #19 on: December 11, 2015, 05:10:37 PM »
Thanks. I also have IGT PE+ here. Will work on it when I get the time and let you know how it turned out. That is unless I can find a used part before.

 

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