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Hello,


After having bought the Bally 809 Multiplier to a friend, I looked to what had been done in the Bally electromechanical machines, and inevitably the classic pair is 809 and the ... ... ..the ...... ..873 !! !

The 809 Multiplier, as its name suggests, can multiply gains and is called a 5 credits machine. So you can play 1 to 5 coins, and each time it multiplies the gain.

The 873 is also a 5 credits one, but it is a 5-line. You can play 1 to 5 coins, or 1 coin per line.

Below the 873 which is on the left is for me, and the 809 which is on the right is going to go back to the North of France for a friend.



I owe this discovery to Mr Zpeakabonk, a big thank you to him !!!

As announced at the time of the sale, it is in its "own juice". It operates in 110 V, but has the hopper, mechanical coin and the wiring seems whole and it did not seem to have been cannibalized. Small feature, it comes straight from Japan !

The glass are in fairly good condition, there is a small scratch in the lower right, but I should succeed in recovering it. Which suffered the most during those years, it was the chrome. We will see what will be possible to get back with Belgom Chrome.

I'm pretty happy to have met this couple 809 / 873, even if it is far from being clean and functional, I will see the extent of the work to be done when I really put my hands in it.

Let's go, photo shoot, I have left in the original size so that the specialists give me their opinion on possible "anomalies", though I've already identified a few, just by taking photos.

We can see the scratch on the lower right, but luckily the glass was not affected. The topper is missing.




The top glass with the 3 Seven aligned payments, the Jackpot ($ 750) when you play 5 coins.




The middle glass and 5 lines represented, with the secondary payments on the right side.




The bottom glass with the scratch on the right. Visible also on the left, but less obvious.




The mechanics of the 3 reel. In the bottom left of the first reel and above the propeller, we can see a strand from 6 to 8 wire surrounded by electrical tape, here is a possible first change we'll have to check.




The hopper.




The reel launching mechanism. It does not make too much account, but there is a large quantity of grease everywhere.




Another view of the propeller mechanism.




The inside of the door at the level of the reel.




What a miracle !,  I have a double keys reset !!!
By cons, 2nd anomaly. I noticed the little piece of paper that served of shim at the coil of the coin diverter. In this way, the coins are bound to the hopper, so it cannot be overfull ..., strange.... besides the bottom left contact switch no longer has its metal rod to count coins.




Well, not very young this 873. It was born in October 24, 1973.




The bottom of the box behind the hopper is relatively clean, and there is no apparent trace of big changes.




I suspected its source, now there is no doubt !!!




The bell, which rings only from a certain payment, which I would find out later which one.
Below the system that releases the arm when a coin is inserted.




Small information on wiring circuits.




The wiper plate assembly. There is a welded wire on the first wiper plate, I do not know if this is normal.




Wiper plates again, notched ratchet wheels filled with grease. I think this grease is not helpful. We can see again the cable strand with electrical tape.




Small set of coils behind the third wiper plate.




The continuation in the next episode !
« Last Edit: September 05, 2015, 06:09:00 AM by Ron (r273) »
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2015, 09:12:08 PM »
Those are Cool looking machines.
I hope they work for you.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2015, 12:37:21 PM »
Hello,




For those who would not have already guessed, I'm in France, with a mains voltage of 220 volts. The machine has been sold to me to operate in 110 volt.

I  look over your Bally 809, because ultimately the two machines are close enough and the two transformers are 122-105.

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The selected solution was to preserve the 110 volt wiring and use a voltage converter 220 --> 110 volts.


So I took a 110 volt power, I changed the fuse and I prayed ...

Mamamia !!!!!!!!Once again there was light ! The general illumination works and no smoke or blown fuse.

By cons I did not want to put the reel or the hopper, there's a time when we have to take time and not rush. This restoration will be long, there is anyway little chance that the machine operates without a big revision.

This time I left the power on longer, I pressed the switch that has the coin, I can hear the sound but nothing happens with the lights that indicates how much coins are played.

So I removed the head where the counting relays are located, they are behind the top glass.




Below I think that it is the basic system of counting. I feel that the bottom coil is operated at each coin.
At each coin, the ratchet wheel rotates in the direction of clockwise, and when the handle is actuated, the black coil (burned elsewhere I have to find the reference) releases the ratchet wheel. There is a cam extending from that coil to the springs but the reflection of the flash masks it.




Nine coils should indicate payment for the number of coins played. I realize that on the photo they are 2 black coils, I must see if they are also burned.




Another view.




The contact plate disc behind the white ratchet wheel.




The continuation in the next episode !
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2015, 10:01:10 PM »
Great pics.
You know, you can check each of those coils with just two jumper wires.  Connect one jumper to the orange (70) 50V wire, and the other jumper to the 30 (yellow) common wire, and touch each one to each side of your coil under test.  Actually, just clip the jumper onto a 70 wire on any coil, and then use the 30 wire to touch on the NON orange side of each coil you want to test.
Just because a coil is blackened does not mean it does not work.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #4 on: August 02, 2015, 09:51:59 PM »
Hello,


Well, that's it, I'm really working on the restoration of the  Bally 873.

It may take a lot of time before it is all beautiful like the Bally 809 of Chicki, but we will work on it !


Upon reflection, I will leave the machine in 110V, because with my first tests I think I have already burned ballasts neon and it is useless to persist needlessly.

For the rest of the restoration of this machine, I chose to carry my repairs on the "5 pay line feature unit".

It is this set which manages the number of coins played, triggering payment of the hopper, resets at the end of a party ... all managed by coil and switch and a ratchet wheel.

Below is the diagram of the coils correspondence.




There are 2 things I do not understand the purpose / function, the BAR relay ???
Report to the BAR symbol ??? If so why on this symbol and not on the other ones ... ???


And what is the use of the S relay flasher coil , or rather what is the use of this little flasher lamp ?
Because it is situated behind the board with light bulbs, so I guess it should not be very visible ??? 


The front face that illuminates the upper glass symbolizing the lines played. According to the documentation, all the bulbs are # 44.






According to the visual aspect, it seems that the coils #11: Line unit Step-Up and #12 relay: Line unit reset relay are burned. The paper is black and brittle.
There are two coils G-31-1800.




Looking at the assembly of the ratchet wheel, another coil is in the same condition, it is the # 32: Reset coil.
It is a C-28-1100 coil.
All these coils will have to be changed.




There will be a lot of cleaning. All the wires are very dirty, I have doubt in the color of some of them. All metal parts are also in poor cosmetic condition.




The contact plate disc does not seem too damaged, and that's a good piece of news.




Now that I have finished taking pictures, I can start cleaning this 5-line pay feature unit !
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2015, 10:49:49 AM »
Just because a coil looks blackened does not mean it is bad.
Again, you can easily test the coils with two jumper wires.
However, if you just want them to look nice, go ahead and replace them....
Line unit step up and line unit reset relay coils are the two most used coils in the machine.  That's probably why they look more used -- they are more used.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #6 on: August 04, 2015, 02:48:17 PM »
Hello OldReno  :wave:



I have read your messages on the test coils and thank you for the tip !  :cool_thumb_up:



But I decided to put the steps by steps of this restoration “after making” the changes, burned coils are therefore already changed.







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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #7 on: August 05, 2015, 02:25:45 PM »
Hello,


Let's go for the big cleaning !

The wooden plate which supports the bulbs is held with 4 screws. The bulbs base are fixed "in force" on the board. The exterior lights are  a "general illumination" type, the middle ones lit on according to phases of the game.
We distinguish better the bulb and S flasher relay coil, I do not know the usefulness. The bulb is a # 455




Without the wooden plate, the 9 coils are a little more accessible.
The two burned coils are at the top right.




To remove the coil from its holder, you just have to unscrew the screws from the bottom and slide.




The magnetic plate above the coil that does not work any longer, because the coil is burned.




I started cleaning the wire, the left ones are clean, and the right ones are still dirty.
The connector supports are also removed to be cleaned, there are many oxidation.




The disassembly is continuing. The aim is to collect all the metal parts to clean them.
This will also allow me to better understand how the machine and the coils are wired.




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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2015, 07:13:04 AM »
EXCELLENT Photos!  We are all following your progress closely.


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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #9 on: August 06, 2015, 01:21:21 PM »

Thank you !




I see that you also have beautiful slot machine  :cool_thumb_up:
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2015, 11:15:37 PM »
Hello,


The coil support plate is finally emptied of all of its parts, after 40 years it really needs a good cleaning.




I have not scratched rust in depth, but the plate still found a second youth!




I disassembled the wiper assembly.
The wiper is struggling returning to its place. The spring may be involved, but I will first start by cleaning the contacts.




I use this product for cleaning, by soaking a piece of cardboard and passing between the two contacts.




Once disassembled the contacts are more accessible.




The contact plate.




The other side of the contact plate view. I guess the use of the wiring, but I'll try to understand how it works at the level of bets.




The contact plate is disassembled, nothing special but it helps to clean the 40 years of dust !




The switch that were situated at the ratchet wheel have been removed, it will be easier to clean them.
It is also necessary to remove these switch to output the ratchet wheel about its axis.





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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2015, 09:23:32 PM »
Hello,


Once the switch are removed, the ratchet wheel can be removed.
The spring does not raise any problem during disassembly, it makes only two laps around the axis and it is easy to recover it.




After all these years the ratchet wheel has become very dirty. The axis is half sticky, half fat, and a good cleaning / degreasing is required.




Same thing for the axle holder. Rag + F gasoline = dry axle holder !




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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #12 on: August 10, 2015, 04:21:36 AM »
Again more great pictures.  This is another of those well documented break ALL THE WAY DOWN jobs.  As with the others, I would have a box of spare parts if I went this deep into my games.  As usual I eagerly await the video of the slot working. 


I am actually inspired to know that there are members out there that have the confidence to problem solve at this level.  Seems like I will have to go into the head unit of me 873 Golden Nugget in the near future because of sluggish stepping from line to line.


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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #13 on: August 10, 2015, 02:50:49 PM »
Ra, lube the shaft of your white gear, and lube the wiper fingers and buttons on the disc.  That'll probably fix ya.
Couple of drops of light oil...
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #14 on: August 10, 2015, 02:58:54 PM »
Nurbo, good job.
Just FYI, if you remove the TOP screw of your switch stack, that is enough to allow you to get your white toothed gear out of its place, without having to disassemble the switches.  Much easier to put back together, too.
ALthough I suspect you are wanting to do a complete teardown.  This is just info for the next time you take apart the odds disc and assy.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #15 on: August 10, 2015, 05:23:58 PM »
Thank you Reno:
I will do as you instruct right away.  Nothing like a soothe action on an 873.  The lights are part of the fun.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2015, 06:38:05 AM »

I suspected its source, now there is no doubt !!!




Out of curiosity, I showed this to my mother who is fluent in Japanese. She says that roughly translated, it reads, "Use caution – socket and plug are rearranged" So hopefully, you've used caution up to this point!  :yes:
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2015, 09:21:06 AM »

I suspected its source, now there is no doubt !!!




Out of curiosity, I showed this to my mother who is fluent in Japanese. She says that roughly translated, it reads, "Use caution – socket and plug are rearranged" So hopefully, you've used caution up to this point!  :yes:


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When I ran it thru "google translate" it said "Godzilla punishes those that gamble excessively".   :garfield:
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2015, 06:56:13 PM »
Lmao

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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2015, 01:46:55 AM »
Hello,

@OldReno
That's right, I realized it when raising the switch. And I confirm I am actually trying to disassemble everything to clean each part of the machine.


@DoubleZero
Thank you for the translation !
I had not found yet what meant that text, so I will pay attention when I will be reading the wiring diagram.

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