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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #40 on: March 07, 2017, 05:17:23 PM »
One other question. What is the circuit board on the left side at the bottom of the cabinet next to the hopper called?

I just looked in the F1 manual and found this. I don't have one on mine so I had no idea.  It appears to be for the progressive set up. You won't need it anyway.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2017, 06:21:14 PM »
One other question. What is the circuit board on the left side at the bottom of the cabinet next to the hopper called?

I just looked in the F1 manual and found this. I don't have one on mine so I had no idea.  It appears to be for the progressive set up. You won't need it anyway.


I dont have the progressive board either, there is only 1 board on the bottom left side of my cabinet, which must be the interface board. The wire harness im refering that im refering to is the a 16 pin connector that is the first and only 16 pin in section C of the interface board 10 of the 16 wires are cut. Im assuming that they were connected to the 10 wires that are also cut on the wire harness that plugs into the bottom of my crt from the the 16 pin connector coming from the video connector on the board thats mounted in the back wall of the upper part of my cabinet. I think ( not sure) that those 10 cut wires controlled the pay out to the hopper. Ill post a photo in a minute

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #42 on: March 07, 2017, 06:35:46 PM »
Here is the photo the photo shows the hopper removed and the 2 circles is where the 10 wires were cut

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #43 on: March 07, 2017, 07:23:41 PM »
The circuit board next to the hopper is the IO board for the machine. It controls the button functions, hopper, etc.. If you decide to sent the MPU into K-Lar, you might consider sending the the IO and Creonix chassis and have them checked at the same time. That way you know when you get the parts back that you should be good to go, and not possiblie have another surprise that a different boards bad? It looks like that possiblie your Ceronix chassis is fine, by the pics with the multi cards on the screen, but they could at least check and replace the capacitors on the Ceronix chassis.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #44 on: March 07, 2017, 07:34:18 PM »
I got it running a few minutes ago, i wiggled the mpu out of frusteration and it started working and when i let go of the mpu it went back to scrolling so i took the board out that the mpu plugs into and it had a weak solder connection, so i had my husband solder it. Now its running good

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #45 on: March 07, 2017, 07:41:38 PM »
 I mistook your I/O board for the progressive board  :duh: . I just looked in my own machine and saw the place where the progressive board goes.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #46 on: March 07, 2017, 07:57:21 PM »
I dont have the progressive board either, there is only 1 board on the bottom left side of my cabinet, which must be the interface board. The wire harness im refering that im refering to is the a 16 pin connector that is the first and only 16 pin in section C of the interface board 10 of the 16 wires are cut. Im assuming that they were connected to the 10 wires that are also cut on the wire harness that plugs into the bottom of my crt from the the 16 pin connector coming from the video connector on the board thats mounted in the back wall of the upper part of my cabinet. I think ( not sure) that those 10 cut wires controlled the pay out to the hopper. Ill post a photo in a minute

Some or all of the wires that go to connector (section?) C on the Interface board are for the hopper. But you have a hopper installed, so you are thinking someone in the past modded the machine so it could not payout coins, possibly to comply with the law? And by replacing those 2 cables that have the missing wires you can restore the hopper function? You may be able to make replacement cables easier than finding them for sale, unless someone happens to have them from a parted-out machine.

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #47 on: March 07, 2017, 08:38:06 PM »
I dont have the progressive board either, there is only 1 board on the bottom left side of my cabinet, which must be the interface board. The wire harness im refering that im refering to is the a 16 pin connector that is the first and only 16 pin in section C of the interface board 10 of the 16 wires are cut. Im assuming that they were connected to the 10 wires that are also cut on the wire harness that plugs into the bottom of my crt from the the 16 pin connector coming from the video connector on the board thats mounted in the back wall of the upper part of my cabinet. I think ( not sure) that those 10 cut wires controlled the pay out to the hopper. Ill post a photo in a minute

Some or all of the wires that go to connector (section?) C on the Interface board are for the hopper. But you have a hopper installed, so you are thinking someone in the past modded the machine so it could not payout coins, possibly to comply with the law? And by replacing those 2 cables that have the missing wires you can restore the hopper function? You may be able to make replacement cables easier than finding them for sale, unless someone happens to have them from a parted-out machine.
Yes sir, im almost positive that its why it was modded. They cut the wires really close to the connector so there is no way to reuse that connector, would you know where i could get another 16 pin male connector that would fit that socket on the IO board? Or a possible work around?

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #48 on: March 07, 2017, 08:44:05 PM »
Can you take a closeup photo of the connector that has the cut wires and post it?  We may be able to give better advice after seeing it. Also, maybe someone here that has a Fortune I machine with that cable can provide enough info that you or your husband can make another one, or someone here can make one for you? Since the connector housing is ok, just need the 10 wires reconnected, maybe you can reuse the connector contacts where the wires are cut off by soldering new wires to them. Or can order new contacts.

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #49 on: March 07, 2017, 09:05:17 PM »
Can you take a closeup photo of the connector that has the cut wires and post it?  We may be able to give better advice after seeing it. Also, maybe someone here that has a Fortune I machine with that cable can provide enough info that you or your husband can make another one, or someone here can make one for you? Since the connector housing is ok, just need the 10 wires reconnected, maybe you can reuse the connector contacts where the wires are cut off by soldering new wires to them. Or can order new contacts.
ill take a photo and post tomorrow. I appreciate all your help and every one elses. You have helped out alot and have been very patient  will all my questions. :thank_you:

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #50 on: March 07, 2017, 09:16:32 PM »
Looking at your multi-card image it is the MPU that is bad.
I finished fixing 3 FI boards today and one of those had the same problem.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #51 on: March 07, 2017, 09:51:03 PM »
Can you take a closeup photo of the connector that has the cut wires and post it?  We may be able to give better advice after seeing it. Also, maybe someone here that has a Fortune I machine with that cable can provide enough info that you or your husband can make another one, or someone here can make one for you? Since the connector housing is ok, just need the 10 wires reconnected, maybe you can reuse the connector contacts where the wires are cut off by soldering new wires to them. Or can order new contacts.
ill take a photo and post tomorrow. I appreciate all your help and every one elses. You have helped out alot and have been very patient  will all my questions. :thank_you:

I have looked over the drawing for the Interface board and those 10 wires that are cut on the "C" connector are supposed to be cut, they are not used. They are marked as "N/C" on the drawing, which means "Not Connected". You can confirm this with anyone that has a Fortune I machine, have them check that "C" connector which is located on the bottom edge of the Interface board and see if the same wires are missing or cut, and their hopper works.

I think that the wires that are cut that you circled in your photo with the 2 red circles are all supposed to be cut. I don't know why your hopper isn't working but I think we need to consider something else as the cause.

 
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #52 on: March 07, 2017, 10:49:35 PM »
Connector C is the AC power that turns on the hopper.
The group of wires on the left side goes to one side of the hopper motor.
The other side of the connector goes to the other side of the hopper motor.
They used multiple wires on each side to handle the AC current drawn by the hopper motor.

Could be the wires were cut so the machine would not give a payout of coins.
Some states were set up to allow gaming machines if there were no coin rewards for a win.

Easy to reconnect, just match up the wire colors to the ones that were cut.
But  if this is a credit machine the Cashout button may have been disconnected so you would not get a hopper timeout tilt.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #53 on: March 07, 2017, 11:15:43 PM »
The hopper is paying out now, i played and built credits up and realized it doesnt start paying out coins until credit is at 295 unless i cash out.

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #54 on: March 08, 2017, 12:08:33 AM »
You connected the wires as directed and it worked?

Strange, a half asses attempt at a no coin out machine.
I would have removed the two triacs that drive the hopper from the I/O board and made that feature more permanent.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #55 on: March 08, 2017, 01:06:01 AM »
You connected the wires as directed and it worked?

Strange, a half asses attempt at a no coin out machine.
I would have removed the two triacs that drive the hopper from the I/O board and made that feature more permanent.
No i didnt do anything to it, i just played for awhile and kept feeding quarters and letting credits build up in it like i was at the casino, lol and i had 235 or 240 credits and i hit 4 of a kind which on 5 quarters plays pays 80 so it payed me credits up to 290 then it spit quarters out for the rest of the pay out. Every time it goes below 290 credits it just adds credit but anything over 290 credits pays out and it pays at any credit when you cash out. So much for it being for entertainment purposes only. :rotfl:

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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #56 on: March 08, 2017, 02:15:51 AM »
Connector C is the AC power that turns on the hopper.
The group of wires on the left side goes to one side of the hopper motor.
The other side of the connector goes to the other side of the hopper motor.
They used multiple wires on each side to handle the AC current drawn by the hopper motor.

Could be the wires were cut so the machine would not give a payout of coins.
Some states were set up to allow gaming machines if there were no coin rewards for a win.

Easy to reconnect, just match up the wire colors to the ones that were cut.
But  if this is a credit machine the Cashout button may have been disconnected so you would not get a hopper timeout tilt.

Connector C on the Interface board has 16 wires. According to the IGT drawing I looked at only 6 of the wires are used, the other 10 are not used. The 6 wires that are used are for hopper motor power (2 hot and 2 for ground) and 2 wires for the hopper coinout switch to count the coins paid out. The 10 unneeded wires don't go anywhere on the Interface board so they were cut from the wiring cable at the factory. There may be variations on this C connector depending on the machine. But I don't think anyone has cut wires to do some kind of mod. When she thought the hopper was not working and then saw these cut wires she thought that was the reason for the hopper not working. But actually the machine was in credit mode until it reached a certain limit, then the hopper began paying out coins won past that credit limit. That may be something that is part of the particular game software stored in eprom.

She hasn't played the machine in over a year so may have forgotten some parts of the machine's operation. Also, if there is a "Cash/Credit" button on the machine pressing it can may change the machine from credit play to paying out winnings.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #57 on: March 08, 2017, 07:51:32 PM »
JuJu504 - does your machine have a Sound board and does it work ok? If so how would you describe the sounds, I've not played a Fortune I machine. Thanks!
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #58 on: March 08, 2017, 09:35:13 PM »
Good news JuJu...
Thanks to rok for having me look. My F1 also has the same cut cable. They  just must have used a larger ribbon cable in manufacturing cut off the unused portion.
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Re: IGT Fortune 1 monitor problems
« Reply #59 on: March 21, 2017, 01:45:38 AM »
This is a great thread that ends in success!  I love this kind of story.  That same game was my first fortune 1.  I was hooked.  Now I have 4 different models.  This particular poker game I sold to my neighbor.  Her mother enjoyed weekly trips to Atlantic City NJ.  After a massive stroke she was unable to travel.  Her mother went into a deep depression.  After getting the fortune 1 in her home AND a Bally EM 809 the old lady, (82) got new life.  I helped the family set up a stand so that she could reach the controls in her wheel chair.  She would roll up and play for hours. Members of this forum helped me get the game going.  It seems that this forum gives new life to people too. :cool_thumb_up:


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