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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #40 on: February 04, 2016, 06:54:18 PM »
I did the clear as per instructions end up with eprom error which is good so far. Put key chip in then base chip back in but does not go to programming just loads game than gives me coin jam error again. Is it possible that my key chip is not working right?  The fellow that gave it to me said he could not test it?

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #41 on: February 04, 2016, 07:10:24 PM »
I did the procedure again and for a split second it said 7 key chip config than immediately when to coin in jam. I am lost

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #42 on: February 04, 2016, 07:14:58 PM »
Do you have coin in handling system in the machine?

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #43 on: February 04, 2016, 07:22:40 PM »
No it is bill in ticket out. Is it possibly a faulty base chip?

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #44 on: February 04, 2016, 07:34:12 PM »
make sure your coin harness has the jumper on it like in this post ....

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #45 on: February 04, 2016, 07:40:34 PM »
I have that. I even tried one from a working machine but made no difference

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #46 on: February 04, 2016, 10:06:05 PM »
Trying the easiest stuff did you replace both door I/O cards from your Frog Prince and did the ones you removed work in the Frog P? If the answer is yes we should go deeper. What spare parts do you have? A 1270 board maybe a backplane board. You have hit most of the common issues. Reel Touch can be pita.
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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #47 on: February 05, 2016, 07:42:47 AM »
I did swap door I/O boards but will do it one more time just to make sure.  Where do I find the backplane?  Can I use the one from frog prince?

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #48 on: February 05, 2016, 08:13:09 AM »
Kind of a pain to use the FP backplane because then you will have to completely set up the FP again when you return it to FP after testing. ( backplane is the board the tray slides in to). Make sure all the connections are good going to the backplane first also.
Hold off on replacing the backplane. Remember the door I/O boards are not the same, one should be an 801 and the other 802.(occasionally there are  two 802s). Again make sure you fully seat the MPU tray when you install it.
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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #49 on: February 05, 2016, 08:29:48 AM »
What is the exact voltage of the coin battery on the MPU.
Also as before try multiple ups and downs on the door latch (with door closed wait about 2 seconds between ups and downs of the latch).
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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #50 on: February 05, 2016, 09:25:59 AM »
I installed a new coin battery and varta battery both are at the proper voltage.  I will try the door opening and closing tonight as well.  I'm wondering if my bill validator (might be faulty) could be part of the problem?  Also would I be able to use the base chip from Frog Prince in the Munsters?  When I used the clear chip or the key chip none of the button lights would light up immediately, as soon as I put the base chip in the buttons light up instantly. 

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #51 on: February 05, 2016, 12:45:45 PM »
The only thing that will light when you use the key chip will be the two top yellow LEDs on the MPU.
When you replace the SB the game must go through it's entire boot sequence. That means the VFD should start with netplex, then eventually get to waiting for video display no deck lights should be on. The top box will go through it's entire sequence that should change screens a number of times ending with checking for valid CRCs this could take 5-8 minutes. After that the top box should show a key chip configuration button and the service,cash out, spin reels and play max buttons should be light. You need to tell us the steps that are happening or not happening when compared to your FP reel touch.
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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #52 on: February 05, 2016, 01:20:55 PM »
The difference between the working Frog Prince (no deck lights during boot sequence. They will light up when I insert money)  and the non working Munsters (deck lights come on as soon as I turn the power switch on and they stay on always)  I am calling the bet credit amount, spin reels, cash out lights and number of lines the deck lights. 

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #53 on: February 05, 2016, 01:23:34 PM »
Forgot to mention on the Munsters after the boot sequence is complete the upper screen says Call Attendant and the lower display says Closure M Coin In Jam.

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #54 on: February 05, 2016, 01:29:51 PM »
Sorry but the boot and display sequence of testing memory ms Verify etc. is almost identical between the working and non working machine.  Only difference I notice is the behavior of the deck lights. 

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #55 on: February 05, 2016, 04:56:40 PM »
Deck lights on instantly not good. It is probably door I/O cards (already confirmed good?) Or the wiring in that area. Check for bent pins on cards or where the wire bundles may have been pinched by the door and insulation has been skinned off and possibly shorted together or grounding.

Does the bill validator cycle when it boots up (usually twice)
Should mimic the FP.
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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #56 on: February 05, 2016, 05:16:43 PM »
Does the 6-6-3 display come on at all? (The red LED on the right hand of the display or the VFD display. Both are easy swaps.
Also when checking for pinched wires open the belly glass door and look there.
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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #57 on: February 05, 2016, 05:46:36 PM »
I swapped both door I/O boards again. Frog prince works Munsters doesn't. Definitely not the I/O boards. Checked wiring everything appears good. MPU boards on both units have 2 upper green lights and 1 flashing Amber.  Tried opening and closing door several times to no avail. All deck lights are still lit. This is driving me crazy. What do I do?

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #58 on: February 05, 2016, 06:17:06 PM »
No red LEDs at all. Will look at wires in belly door. Never have looked in there

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Re: Coin In Jam / Closure M
« Reply #59 on: February 05, 2016, 06:42:28 PM »
Looked at wires in belly glass as well. All look good

 

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