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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2017, 08:57:17 AM »
I have a DBV-200.  Where would I find the switch, I do not see it.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2017, 11:01:05 AM »
Ok, Found the switches.  they are all off in the first set of 10 except for #10 and the second set of switches (6 total) are also off.

Based on the chip installed and info on the validator,  these switches are set correctly.





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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2017, 12:48:05 PM »
Below are a few pages from the JCM manual on the DBV-200 that may be helpful. The square black unit where the bills are inserted is commonly called the "head". On the bottom of the DBV head you will find the memory chip that holds the software for the DBV-200, it can be seen thru a hole cut into the bottom part of the DBV housing. It will either be an eprom in a socket, or a flash rom that is soldered to the circuit board. Often there is a sticker on top of this memory chip that tells you the software version and the id number of the communication method that software uses. There is sometimes an older sticker on the top of the DBV-200 head but you can't always trust that sticker, these heads get updated over the years, even taken from one machine and reinstalled into another after changing the software to what is needed. So if there is a sticker on the memory chip on the underside of the DBV-200 that is more likely to be correct. If your DBV-200 has never worked in this machine you will want to ensure that it does contain the -022/-023 IGT compatible software that your machine needs. If this DBV-200 works ok in another IGT PE+ or S+ machine then you know it has the correct -022/-023 software but DBV dipswitch #10 may be set to the wrong position.

Different slot machine manufacturers use different comm methods and they are not compatible with each other. For IGT PE, PE+, S and S+ machines the id number is -022 or -023 and this is what your DBV-200 should have to work. The -022 and -023 software are both contained in the same chip on your DBV-200, dipswitch #10 is used to select if you want to use -022 or -023. 

As mentioned by badbaud, you should try changing dipswitch 10 to the opposite position to see if that works.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2017, 01:02:02 PM »
Hold the white test button until you hear a DING.
Also on bill validator try turning DIP switch on the head on, all rest off.

Which dipswitch did you mean that should be set ON?  (switch 10 ??)
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2017, 01:05:09 PM »
my memory is always foggy on this subject!  Jim at Blueridge slots always corrects me on this.  I think? on a PE+ poker machine, switch #1 is the I/F switch.  Jim has corrected me on this on the old site and the new site as well.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2017, 01:18:23 PM »
Hello All,
New to this forum and have an issue with my IGT Slant top video poker machine.  All works great except the DBV-200 bill acceptor that cycles through the usual stuff but never becomes active.  I switched it out with another one I have on a second machine that works.  Switching them shows me it is not the acceptor and must be some kind of setting or switch on the machine itself since it will work in the other machine but the one that was working goes and does the same cycling.

I have gone through the test screen and it shows enabled.  What am I missing?

Machine was manufactured in 9/93 and says the model is a GD75D

Thank you in advance for any help you can give.

What is the other type of machine that you swapped the DBV-200 from? It might be an IGT machine that uses DBV ID -023 and your PE+ slant top uses ID -022 (or vice versa). Try changing the DBV-200 dipswitch #10 to the opposite position.
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2017, 01:54:39 PM »
Did you get the onscreen setting and set the denomination ? if not, you need to do that.
Receiving a CMOS error is not going to enable the validator.  Did you use the right chip slot ?

Until you get the Besel lights on - it is not active.

I would save playing with the dips until you have a light on. You can flip the switch to change the dbv from sigma to igt but if the validator didn't have IGT software on it to begin with, changing this dip doesn't change it to IGT. The dip changes the pulse modulation that is sent to the machine. Per some of the earlier comments - look at the sticker and validate it is a IGT 022/023. If it is some other software IE Bally. Save the effort it is not going to work at all (ever).

Assuming the light is on - I would work with a $1.00 bill.
Depending on the version/age of validator software other bills may not be accepted.
Regardless if it is 022/023 the $1 will work others won't.




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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2017, 03:26:54 PM »
The validator unit was swapped with a Double Diamond machine and both validators work with the DD machine as soon as it is plugged in.
the Set denomination chip was plugged into the program slot and displayed the screen expected.  The chip in the head unit has not been changed so based on what I read, changing the switches should not be needed since they are based on the chip in the head if I have it right.


I have tried a second time with the set chip and gone through the steps and the validator is not lighting up nor taking bills.
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2017, 03:47:57 PM »
Double diamond S+ machine or a Double Diamond S2000 machine.

The S2000 has speakers where the player tracking bar sits ?
The S2000 head will not work with a S+ or PE+ platform.

Does the head go through its regurgitations (start/stop/grind noise) when plugged into the PE+ and turned on ?
If not perhaps the dbv is not getting power and you need to check the system fuses and cable connections.

When you pull out the MPU board is the transformer plugged onto the PE+ board.
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2017, 04:12:53 PM »
Well the heads on both validators are the same model. 


That being said.  When I went in and double checked the validators I swapped the cash cans and made sure everything was seated right.


Plugged it in and I'll be damned, the lights are all on!!!!!!!!!!!!! :thank_you:


Now all I have to do is get these both sold before they decide to act up again.




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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #30 on: October 25, 2017, 04:38:13 PM »
Well the heads on both validators are the same model. 

The heads can be the same model but still configured differently, for different machines.


.....Now all I have to do is get these both sold before they decide to act up again.....

Ha! If it acts up after you sell it you will be hearing from the new owner. Might be good to know or at least have an idea on what the problem was. Maybe reseating the cash can is what fixed it, sometimes the cash storage security switch or optics can be difficult to activate. That's why a lot of owners remove the wires from the security switch and twist them together, on machines that use that method of security circuit.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #31 on: October 25, 2017, 05:41:43 PM »
I am thinking it was a combination of enabling the head with the new board and the way it was seated.
The seating seems to be causing an issue with both machines taking a dollar trying to process it and either eating it or spitting it back out after munching on it for a few moments.


Which are the security wires? (just out of curiosity)




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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #32 on: October 25, 2017, 06:01:53 PM »
On some machines there is a switch that gets pressed by the cash can when it is inserted or when the cash access door is closed. The switch can be located at the rear of the cash box or elsewhere nearby in the mounting frame. The switch has 2 wires. You can remove the 2 wires and twist them together so that the machine thinks the cash box is always installed and secure, keeps it from giving nuisance errors. Not all machines use this cash box security switch method, some use an optic sensor and other method. You'd need to look carefully at your machine to see how it is done. All slot machines have some type of security sensing on the cash storage area, that's a requirement by the casino. They want to know if the cash box is being dinked with.


 
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