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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #20 on: September 16, 2016, 08:29:47 PM »
Thanks! I'll be doing all of this tomorrow so hopefully.... well, we'll see.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #21 on: September 17, 2016, 10:28:46 AM »
Ok I've got everything installed and the game is up and running with only one problem. The top monitor is blank. It showed everything the bottom monitor showed during boot up but once the game kicks in it goes blank. I have both hooked to the dual vga video board that I just installed. Is that correct? Should both be hooked up to the new card or does one still need to be plugged into the original vga port on the cpu? If I have it hooked up correctly what could the problem be?



Update: I have checked everything I can think of. I've reinstalled the video card, verified all connections are good and plugged into the proper locations, performed a clear several times and have verified that all set up configurations are correct to the best of my knowledge but the top monitor is still blank. As I said earlier it displays a mirror image of the lower screen during boot up showing all the text and what not associated with that process but as soon as the Hot Shot logo screen appears on the lower screen the upper says "no signal" then goes blank. It's almost like the game itself isn't sending the top screen a signal. At this point I'm completely at a loss for what to do next.  :banghead:  Please help!!


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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #22 on: September 17, 2016, 06:39:10 PM »
Not all games have dual screen compatiblity.  Which hot shot are you running?  The video version of the original hot shot game or the 15 reel version?  The original Hot shot video version was meant to run on a cinevision cabinet, which only has one screen.  The newer "15" reel version does support dual screens.  The fact that you are getting cloned images during the boot process means everything is connected properly.  Both monitors should be connected to the video card, that is the correct way.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #23 on: September 17, 2016, 07:12:14 PM »
It's the original hot shot. The game software I have must not support dual screens. However I'm sure I've seen that game with a top monitor in use even though it only displayed the hot shot logo. Although maybe I'm mistaken and it was a glass with the logo and not a monitor. I guess I need to resume my search for the proper software. Do they make the original hot shot software that supports dual screens or am I forced to go with the 15 reel version? For me personally the whole purpose for converting to dual monitors was so I could have the original hot shot specifically. I really don't care for the 15 reel version plus I've a feeling that it won't work very well with my current cpu but I guess I'll run it if I have no other choice.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #24 on: September 17, 2016, 07:16:21 PM »
Every Alpha game I have loads the glass graphics for dual screen. Even the classic version of hot shot. Do you have another game to load to see if you get a top box graphic?
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #25 on: September 17, 2016, 07:27:17 PM »
I have the game that came with the machine, black & white sevens. Originally it had the glass for that game up top so I really hadn't considered that software as a diagnostic tool but your suggestion is a good one. I'll load it up now and will report back momentarily with the result...
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #26 on: September 17, 2016, 07:49:51 PM »
Exact same results with the other game, both monitors show boot up info then they both flash on/off a couple times, the top monitor then displays "no signal input" and the splash screen appears on the lower. Top monitor remains blank.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #27 on: September 17, 2016, 08:07:38 PM »
My suggestion on this is go ahead and get a Real 1-gig box-That is not a gamemaker box. At that point you can bump it to 2-gig by adding a memory stick, At that point you will have the speed and nice graphics to take advantage of some of the games that are available.  Your dino box is really a "Drag" time wise for what you want and I would suggest that you do not have proper software. My opinion.  Have a good weekend-what is left of it. 

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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #28 on: September 17, 2016, 08:17:06 PM »
I plan on upgrading the cpu but it will be quite a while before that can happen. Looks like I've got a 300 lbs $1000 paper weight until then...
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #29 on: September 17, 2016, 08:29:44 PM »
Take a picture of the software that you think is v-20/20.  You are going to have at least a 336 os with a 335 clear etc. Sounds like you are on a budget and I can respect that,  K-Mart does not have those strobe blue light specials anymore.  There is a Joker on e-bay stating they  have a 1-gig box-They do it's a gamemaker box-non-upgradeable. Then there are others on there also that are legit.

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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #30 on: September 17, 2016, 08:57:40 PM »
Here's the pic of the game and OS.

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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #31 on: September 17, 2016, 09:37:28 PM »
I switched the vga cables on the video board just to confirm that the top monitor did indeed work and to eliminate it as a potential problem. It worked fine but of course the bottom monitor was blank. I've switched them back now. Should I try swapping the mpu? I have the exact same one in both my s9000's. Is it worth a try or do I simply have a software issue?
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #32 on: September 17, 2016, 09:51:31 PM »
What's OS and what is your BIOS number.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #33 on: September 17, 2016, 09:59:39 PM »
OS is AVOS00000336-09 bios is AVBBP26S300M
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #34 on: September 17, 2016, 10:10:21 PM »
Just to clarify... Did you let the game boot all the way ?
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #35 on: September 17, 2016, 10:15:11 PM »
Not all games have dual screen compatiblity.  Which hot shot are you running?  The video version of the original hot shot game or the 15 reel version?  The original Hot shot video version was meant to run on a cinevision cabinet, which only has one screen.  The newer "15" reel version does support dual screens.  The fact that you are getting cloned images during the boot process means everything is connected properly.  Both monitors should be connected to the video card, that is the correct way.


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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #36 on: September 17, 2016, 10:19:28 PM »
Wonder if it's a memory shortage issue then, that you would require at least 1gb of ram?  I will load up the game on a V20/20 tomorrow and test it with a 512mb dual video box.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #37 on: September 17, 2016, 10:26:00 PM »
Let me know what you find out. I would do it but my old MPUs are buried somewhere.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #38 on: September 18, 2016, 04:22:50 AM »
Just to clarify... Did you let the game boot all the way ?

Yes several times. I'm going to swap out the cpu with one from another machine. It's the exact same cpu but at least I'll know if the original had some issue or not. Plus it's the last thing I can think of to do that I haven't tried.
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Re: V20 questions
« Reply #39 on: September 18, 2016, 05:32:05 AM »
I changed to a different cpu but it didn't fix the problem, still no top display. If the memory capacity of the cpu is a possible issue then I would assume that I should experience some sort of lag or choppy game play but it doesn't seem to do that. Gameplay is smooth and quick from what I can see.
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