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Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« on: October 13, 2017, 05:16:29 PM »
Hello All,
New to this forum and have an issue with my IGT Slant top video poker machine.  All works great except the DBV-200 bill acceptor that cycles through the usual stuff but never becomes active.  I switched it out with another one I have on a second machine that works.  Switching them shows me it is not the acceptor and must be some kind of setting or switch on the machine itself since it will work in the other machine but the one that was working goes and does the same cycling.


I have gone through the test screen and it shows enabled.  What am I missing?


Machine was manufactured in 9/93 and says the model is a GD75D


Thank you in advance for any help you can give.


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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #1 on: October 13, 2017, 06:59:13 PM »
just some ideas to check,,,

Did the bill validator work at one time and this problem just recently happened? Or has the bill validator never worked? If it worked ok at one time then try to think of any changes or other work you did that could be causing the problem.

Sometimes there is a security switch that is not closed somewhere around the cash storage box (cash can). It may be at the rear of where the cash can inserts, make sure the cash box is fully inserted. On some machines the cash box uses an optic circuit for the security sensing, there will be an optic part on each side of the cash box and this senses if the cash box is removed or installed. It is similar to the machine's main door optics that sense if the main door is closed or open.

-EDIT- for some reason I was thinking this is an S+ machine, but it is a PE+, so some of what I wrote below does not apply.

Also, you may have a setting in your Test/Options menus that is wrong. For example, if your credit limit is set too low then the bill validator won't accept a bill because that would cause the machine to go over the credit limit. You should review all of your TEST/Setup menu settings to make sure none of them are causing the problem. Let us know what your SP chip number is and we can give more detailed advice.

You can find out what your SP chip and SS chip numbers are by pressing the white TEST button located inside the machine. Keep pressing it until you see the number "4" in the Coins Played display. Then look at the Winner Paid display, your machine will display a couple of 4 digit numbers, write them down and tell us what they are.

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« Last Edit: October 16, 2017, 07:12:15 PM by rokgpsman »
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2017, 04:08:39 PM »
This being a video poker unit, there is no separate screen for the credits.  I do not see the chip numbers anywhere with in the test screens I go through.
I have tried to swap out cash cans and the validator does the usual when you take it out and put it back in, it just doesn't light up showing it is ready to take money.
Max credits are at 3500
I have a image of the circuit board that I have attached.  It had been working up until a battery was replace by a local guy.  being that this unit is not played very often it wasn't until later that we noticed an issue with the validator.  Repair guy was not much help.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2017, 05:16:06 PM »
I am not really familiar with the video poker machines, but they are similar to the S+ machines. Do you just need a set chip to enable the validator after the battery change? A set 15 works for the S+ machines but I am not sure for the video machines.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2017, 06:03:04 PM »
This being a video poker unit, there is no separate screen for the credits.  I do not see the chip numbers anywhere with in the test screens I go through.
I have tried to swap out cash cans and the validator does the usual when you take it out and put it back in, it just doesn't light up showing it is ready to take money.
Max credits are at 3500
I have a image of the circuit board that I have attached.  It had been working up until a battery was replace by a local guy.  being that this unit is not played very often it wasn't until later that we noticed an issue with the validator.  Repair guy was not much help.

.....I have gone through the test screen and it shows enabled.  What am I missing?

If you've gone thru the Setup screens and it says the bill validator is enabled then I'm not sure using the SET chip will help. Maybe something else is going on if the DBV isn't working. Does it pull in a bill but then reject it, or does it not even pull the bill in? You should only be using a $1 bill for testing purposes at this point, don't confuse the issue by using any other bill.

Since the bill validator was working before the battery was changed (you're sure about that?) some setting in the TEST/Setup menus was probably lost or got changed when the old battery died, was removed and another battery installed. Each time your press the white TEST button inside the machine it should step thru the various setup screens, you can double-check all of them that have something to do with a limit, like credit limit, etc, or any settings that pertain to the bill validator.

Make sure that the "Credit / Non-Credit" option setting is set to "Credit". And the setting "Maximum Coins In" should be set to a higher number, such as 20.

Can you post a few photos of the screens you get when you step thru the Setup menus? (not the financial bookkeeping screens, just the Setup/Options settings screens). Maybe we can see something this is wrong. Thanks!
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2017, 08:45:30 PM »

If the bill acceptor is not lit up its not enabled.
You need a set chip to enable it.
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #6 on: October 17, 2017, 06:58:20 AM »
Set chip 004 will work in your machine.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #7 on: October 17, 2017, 03:22:40 PM »
The validator will not pull any bill in.  The validator did work prior to the board being replaced but we are unsure if it stopped right after or not.


Here are some of the screens from the test mode. 
One photo (image 1471) shows the bills to credit disabled.  I have since this was taken, gone in and changed it to enabled but the validator still is not working.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #8 on: October 17, 2017, 03:44:55 PM »
Enabling the on-screen settings will not enable the bill validator.
You need to use a set chip.


The purpose of. Set chip is to tell the validator how many credits to present for each dollar input.
Setting the on screen setting to 0.25 is simply a display setting. The set chip, programs a pulse setting in the hardware.


From a coin in perspective the sample coin determines what coin triggers a credit. There is no linkage between what is displayed and what is actual. Ie put 0.01 on the screen and a quarter in the comparitor it still gives 1 credit for 1 coin.....not 25 credits for a quarter.





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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #9 on: October 17, 2017, 03:48:51 PM »
Ok, where do I get and how do I do this set chip?


Thank you for the help.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #10 on: October 17, 2017, 03:58:30 PM »
Most of the vendors on the home screen can sell you a set chip. While your buying I would also pickup a clear chip. Shipping will probably cost you more than the chips.


To use the set chip you pull the Mpu board out. Replace the program chip with the set chip. Plug the board back in. Follow the on screen instructions to set the denomination. Pull the board out swap chips back to the regular program chip and you should be in business.


The clear chip wipes your machine back to factory defaults. Used in the same manner as the set chip.
Rarely used but it's good to have one around.



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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #11 on: October 17, 2017, 03:59:29 PM »
Here is a post with screen shots


http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=334.0
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #12 on: October 18, 2017, 09:30:55 AM »
Thank you very much for your help! 

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #13 on: October 21, 2017, 08:49:01 PM »
The only way for the bill acceptor to show as "enabled" on that screen is with the use of a SET chip, so someone previously did use a SET chip.  Is the denomination set on your game?
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #14 on: October 23, 2017, 03:43:06 PM »
Well I got the chip and did what I was told now I get a call attendant message with cmos data message. 


What can I do now?

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #15 on: October 23, 2017, 06:08:17 PM »
Hold the white test button until you hear a DING.
Also on bill validator try turning DIP switch on the head on, all rest off.
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #16 on: October 23, 2017, 07:00:38 PM »
After the ding .. I think you have to close the door and turn the attendant key.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #17 on: October 23, 2017, 07:19:15 PM »
Yep, got the ding and nothing else really happened so I closed it up and tried for laughs the jackpot key. Games back!!


Turned off and back on.  No validator.

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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #18 on: October 23, 2017, 07:29:34 PM »
Did you turn on DIP switch on the validator?
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Re: Issue with a Bill accepter on a IGT Slant top V-Poker
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2017, 08:54:42 AM »
Did you turn on DIP switch on the validator?

Check that, what Badbaud said.
BUT... I'd go back to the link that Jay send and do everything again in the EXACT order. It's easy to miss one small step.
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