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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #20 on: February 04, 2018, 08:46:35 PM »
Thats a good point, that chime would have been getting a work out, which explains why it looks like BBQ, can we see some photos of inside the machine and upper cabinet....

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #21 on: February 04, 2018, 10:20:35 PM »
Thats a good point, that chime would have been getting a work out, which explains why it looks like BBQ, can we see some photos of inside the machine and upper cabinet....
Do you see a Bell inside your game or only the chime you removed?
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #22 on: February 05, 2018, 09:39:07 AM »
Upper cabinet 1. It has both gong & bell

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #23 on: February 05, 2018, 09:41:51 AM »
Upper cabinet 2. How do I check the hopper brake?

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #24 on: February 05, 2018, 09:55:49 AM »
Upper cabinet 3. Just a quick review:
1) Works ok until its supposed to pay out.
2) Locks up with constant buzzing (gong coil)
 Thanks, Doug

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #25 on: February 05, 2018, 10:01:37 AM »
Upper cabinet rh side.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #26 on: February 05, 2018, 10:46:00 AM »
You can disconnect the bell and the gong, that may stop the excessive noise while you troubleshoot further. I believe the machine should work fine without a bell or gong. If it still locks up then look for other causes. There may be a stuck switch related to the payout function. Have you inspected the hopper to see how the coin counter is working?
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #27 on: February 05, 2018, 11:02:42 AM »
The hopper brake is located on the hopper motor. There is a flat piece of steel that is pulled against the hopper motor armature. When the hopper motor is energized it is pulled up due to the magnetic field. This then allows the hopper to spin and feed out coils. When it shuts off the lever is released applying the brake. So remove your hopper and find the motor and locate the brake. Push the level against the motor and try to spin the hopper coin wheel. Your hopper could be frozen. The motor is attached to a gearbox. That gear box has grease inside that can harden. Some hopper gearboxes have a small square oil hole on the bottom side. Inside there is a felt pad that holds oil. The same oiling holes are on the end of the motors armature bracket for oiling. I have put oil in the gearbox then warmed it up with a heat gun to liquefy the old hard grease.
You could have something in the hopper causing it to be jammed. Take the hopper bowl off it and clean and inspect the hopper.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #28 on: February 05, 2018, 03:32:40 PM »
Check to see if there are coins jammed up under the pivot arm area at the top of the hopper.
Also small debris or hardware may be stuck in the bottom of the hopper.
Best bet, remove the hopper and manually rotate the coin pick up as a way to eliminate a possible jam. 

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #29 on: February 05, 2018, 05:02:35 PM »
Took off hopper bowl...motor and hopper turn freely when I release brake and turn by hand. I unhooked the chime and bell....made no difference but its quieter to work on. As for the coin counter, if the coin goes to the cash box rather than the hopper, it advances.
At this point I seem to be back at square one. I have cleaned and meter checked the switches, relays & contacts on the hopper, reel mech, payout counter & step-up assembly.
The insert coin & coin accepted lights are always on. All coins drop straight to the hopper, none to the cash box. When you try the lever, it moves a half inch and energizes a coil in the coin mechanism ( the one in the door. the front face can be removed to see the coil) see pic

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #30 on: February 05, 2018, 06:52:16 PM »
I'm thinking your problem is with the payout unit in your game. That is either located in the lower right rear corner back behind the hopper. I don't think it's in the top box but I could be wrong. I'm going to have to go back and look at your pictures.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #31 on: February 05, 2018, 07:17:44 PM »
Is the 3rd coin light staying on? Does it reset to first coin and so on when you insert coins?
If it doesn’t function / cycle properly, the odds unit reset relay and or reset coil/plunger may be at fault.
Both the reset relay and reset coil can be manipulated manually.
Start with the odds reset coil/plunger, if the machine doesn’t advance with each coin deposited.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #32 on: February 05, 2018, 07:37:06 PM »
Thanks guys! Can't get back to it tonight. I'll report back tomorrow. Where is the odds unit located?

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #33 on: February 05, 2018, 07:55:26 PM »
Odds unit looks real clean and in working order.
But try the reset if the machine doesn’t advance when coins are deposited.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #34 on: February 05, 2018, 10:40:45 PM »
Have you tested that coil to the right of the coin mech ? the green one with all the orange wires looks like it may be cooked a bit....

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #35 on: February 07, 2018, 06:18:56 PM »

Is the 3rd coin light staying on? Does it reset to first coin and so on when you insert coins?
If it doesn’t function / cycle properly, the odds unit reset relay and or reset coil/plunger may be at fault.
Both the reset relay and reset coil can be manipulated manually.
Start with the odds reset coil/plunger, if the machine doesn’t advance with each coin deposited.

I think your on to something here Dave. The odds unit is not working.
3rd coin light was staying on. I manually reset the coil plunger & it went back to 1st coin light on. Inserting more coins only actuates a switch that advances the counter in the reel mech. By manually pushing the step up plunger once, coin light 2 comes on. Pushing it a second time coin light 3 comes on. That's where in stays, regardless of more coin drops until its manually reset again.
Thanks, Doug

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #36 on: February 07, 2018, 06:43:02 PM »

Have you tested that coil to the right of the coin mech ? the green one with all the orange wires looks like it may be cooked a bit....


Thanks coincard, for pointing that out. Its the coin return. Supposed to widen the path to allow stuck coins to return. It moves a magnet (I think its a magnet) that is supposed to de-energize it. the linkage inside was bent. I adjusted it and it works now. It worked that coil pretty hard. Glad you caught it. Btw its also activated by the lever.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #37 on: February 07, 2018, 06:57:12 PM »
I'm thinking your problem is with the payout unit in your game. That is either located in the lower right rear corner back behind the hopper. I don't think it's in the top box but I could be wrong. I'm going to have to go back and look at your pictures.

You're right, its behind the hopper. I took it out & cleaned, checked switches with meter. That doesn't mean its not the problem as i could stil be missing something. I'm begining to think it has multiple problems.
Thanks Amechanic for your help.
Doug

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #38 on: February 07, 2018, 07:08:57 PM »
Doug,

Glad you are getting somewhere, where are you at now as far as play-ability of the machine ?

Dave

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #39 on: February 07, 2018, 07:21:30 PM »
Over to the right in the upper unit the’re 3 relay switches mounted a plywood.
One of those may be labeled odds reset relay.
It can be manually manipulated to reset the odds unit.
This may help narrow down the problem.
Try it first to see what happens, if nothing happens then clean the contacts.

 

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