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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2017, 08:32:01 PM »
I think what Erbs is saying is that those machines are no longer repairable once the battery's go dead. There is no way to find the boot chips for the 8724 models. If you had the 88 series, some of those can be repaired.
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2017, 11:53:34 AM »
Lets try these pics , this is a 8724 machine

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2017, 12:00:26 PM »
That black module near the edge of the board is a battery. Technically it is an electronic battery, often called a "Smart Battery". At one time a company called Dallas Semiconductor made these and they were used a lot in electronics. I think there may be replacements available nowadays. You would have to remove those piggy-back boards to see if there are other batteries.

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2017, 12:06:31 PM »
how do I check this battery ?

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #24 on: August 13, 2017, 12:12:45 PM »
Without a schematic drawing for the board this will be a guess. The battery is usually used to keep critical data intact that is stored inside a ram chip, often called a "cmos ram" chip. If you find that cmos ram chip on the circuit board you can put a meter on its power pin and ground pin to measure the battery voltage, while power to the machine is turned off. A closeup photo of the board so we can read the writing on the back of the chips might help to determine which chip is the cmos ram. A faster way would be if there is someone here familiar with that board that can point it out.

Or you could turn the board over and measure the battery voltage out of the Smart Battery by putting the meter leads on the correct solder pads where the Smart Battery is soldered to the board.





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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #25 on: August 13, 2017, 12:13:28 PM »
Cant help on this one. Totally different than the 8825. The coin batteries if used on your series may be under the piggy back board. Even if you changed the batteries you would need the clear chip.

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #26 on: August 13, 2017, 12:15:32 PM »
Here is a pic of the 8825 board.

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #27 on: August 13, 2017, 12:19:21 PM »
erbs- That piggy-back board with the 3 coin batteries, does it have the cmos ram chip on the other side?
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #28 on: August 13, 2017, 12:33:38 PM »
There are 3 chips that plug into the underside of the board that has the 3 batteries. Cant tell you what they are without pulling the board. If I do that I would need the clear chips. I tried to send pic but said too large.

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #29 on: August 13, 2017, 12:38:09 PM »
ok, thanks, I was just curious, don't do anything to risk the board not working. You can send photo to me at my normal email address, click over to the left to see it, where it says "mail this user".

Have you had your VLC machine long and does it work ok?
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #30 on: August 13, 2017, 12:42:59 PM »
For some reason I cant shrink down the photo. Will send to your email. I have had the 8825 for probably 15 years. Great machine. Had to send in board 2 times so far at a cost of around $150 each time. Guess that's not to bad for all those years.

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #31 on: August 13, 2017, 12:47:42 PM »
For some reason I cant shrink down the photo. Will send to your email. I have had the 8825 for probably 15 years. Great machine. Had to send in board 2 times so far at a cost of around $150 each time. Guess that's not to bad for all those years.

Ok, I'll watch for your photo and I'll post it if I'm able, I think it could be helpful, there's not a lot of info on these VLC machines. You're right about the repair cost, factoring the enjoyment of the machine for several years. Does the place that repaired the board help with other VLC stuff, like game software, CLEAR chips, replacement parts, etc?  I saw that VLC is still around, sort of, they are part of another company now, do you know if they respond for help and support on their older machines?
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #32 on: August 13, 2017, 01:05:17 PM »
Here are erbs photos from the mpu board in his VLC 8825 machine. The piggy-back board has 3 coin style batteries and the other side of the piggy-back board has some chips in sockets that are possibly the cmos ram chips.
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It looks like there is maybe another battery just to the right of the piggy-back board that is mounted on the main board, a white cylinder marked "Sanyo".

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #33 on: August 13, 2017, 01:32:39 PM »
Thanks Rokgpsman for posting the pics. Yes the Sanyo is a lithium battery that never had been changed?

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #34 on: August 13, 2017, 02:29:28 PM »
Thanks Rokgpsman for posting the pics. Yes the Sanyo is a lithium battery that never had been changed?

Without the manual or the schematic drawing for the mpu board we can only guess why they have the different sets of batteries. The coin batteries may be for the cmos ram that is for keeping the financial bookkeeping data required by regulators and the sanyo battery might be for other settings like game preferences, comm settings, etc.
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #35 on: August 13, 2017, 05:58:34 PM »
With this being a 8724 VLC, I my self would not put any money into the machine. There are not clear chips out there for this model. If you had the 8825, then that would be a different story, since those can be brought  back to life. You would need to send in your board to have it worked on. There are very few clear chips available for the 8825 VLC machine. If you do ever find a clear chip for a VLC, never try to read to chips files to attempt making a copy, because if you do, the original will be destroyed and no longer work. VLC has a self destruction feature built into there software for there protection if there software.
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #36 on: August 13, 2017, 06:15:42 PM »
Thanks Rokgpsman for posting the pics. Yes the Sanyo is a lithium battery that never had been changed?

erbs sent me another photo that shows the other side of that piggy-back board that has the 3 coin-style batteries (from his VLC 8825 machine). That's where the cmos ram chips are on this mpu board, there are 3 of them, hence the 3 batteries, one battery for each cmos chip. The cmos ram chips are KM681000, which are 128k in size.

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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #37 on: September 24, 2017, 04:13:52 AM »
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #38 on: September 24, 2017, 08:05:40 AM »
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Re: VLC batteries
« Reply #39 on: September 24, 2017, 09:15:41 AM »
i talk brad hes a tech im going send my boards they have and let u know they have the only reset chips  i let him know the can be got he augued but give the pnone number they 30 a peice when u buy a hundred good luck
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