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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #20 on: August 17, 2015, 01:02:09 AM »
Reno:


Not to hi jack this very interesting thread but I did exactly what you said in post# 13 and it worked exactly like you said it would.  I had it on my mind and got out of bed at 03:30 to fix the game.  I got the EM fever bad!


Thank you again
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #21 on: August 17, 2015, 11:52:59 AM »
Yeah, Ra, I know how it is.
I also have fever for my rejuvenated Tandy 100 portable
and an sn76477 complex sound chip I am going to build a test box for.
Fever fever fever.
Oh, I got Bernie fever too.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #22 on: August 17, 2015, 02:37:12 PM »
Permit me to digress. Old Reno, but is that Bernie Sanders fever or some other Bernie?

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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #23 on: August 20, 2015, 11:24:56 AM »
Yes it is.  I am a slot mechanic for Sanders, not to get off topic.
He did speak here in Reno Tuesday, it was wonderful.
I had to pass by a bunch of 'Hookers for Hillary' on the way in.
They were even more wonderful.  Will post photo if anyone interested.
Ok, now back to slots, sorry about the interruption.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #24 on: August 20, 2015, 09:19:41 PM »
Mew here myself Nurbo but in prowling I found this thread.  It appears that I have the $0.05 version?  I will start watching for sure!  My camera skills don't come anywhere close to yours but if you need something to compare with, I'd be more than happy to contribute what I can?


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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #25 on: August 25, 2015, 12:21:39 PM »
Hello Off-Track,


Thank you !

Yes I think you can help me. Could you tell me how many coins are won when you can see :

3 BAR = ???
3 « seven » on lines 1 to 4 = ???
3 « seven » on line 5 (Jackpot) = ???

On the payment glass I only have money amounts, but as  I do not know the denomination of the machine, I do not know how many coins are won.

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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #26 on: August 25, 2015, 12:27:39 PM »
I can't quite read your payout glass but it's a nickel machine 5 cents is one twentieth of a dollar it takes 20 of them to make a dollar

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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #27 on: August 25, 2015, 12:31:18 PM »
Hello OvenGuy,


This is my payout glass :



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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #28 on: August 25, 2015, 12:48:31 PM »
I am guessing from the payout it is a 25 cent machine 25 times 4 equals $1 so $50 would be 200 coins line 5 would be jackpot lockup

and $25 on three bars would be 100 coins

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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #29 on: August 25, 2015, 02:00:11 PM »
 :thank_you:



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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #30 on: August 25, 2015, 02:04:35 PM »

The spring before cleaning. Dirt tracks and steel have become "rough" with past years.

 


After cleaning.

 


I rebuild the entire assembly, ratchet wheel + switch (which were cleaned too).
And the tests are successful, the wiper comes up perfectly and instantly in its position.

 


After the big cleaning, it is the big reassembling.
It's all over with this counting unit, except for three coils that I still have to change.

 


For the next stage of rehabilitation of the Bally 873, I worked on the top glass and its chrome. As you can see, the glass is as dirty as chrome.

 


On the other side of the glass it is not better, heat bulbs and years have made the glass dirty.

 


Now it is removed from its holder, the glass can be cleaned easily.

 


The same glass after cleaning. It is in very good condition except with two or three scratches.

 


The set is ready for long years of service !

 


Next step, the candle above the machine.


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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #31 on: August 25, 2015, 02:23:16 PM »
it is looking nice

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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #32 on: August 25, 2015, 06:14:26 PM »
3 BAR = ???
3 « seven » on lines 1 to 4 = ???
3 « seven » on line 5 (Jackpot) = ???

On the payment glass I only have money amounts, but as  I do not know the denomination of the machine, I do not know how many coins are won.

I didn't even notice that the denomination circle in the lower center of each pay-line glass panel was missing!   :Scratch-Head:   But, yes,  yours is $.25 per line.  Three bars = 100 coins, three 7's on 1-4 are 200 coins and three 7's on line five = lockout (reset button inside on lower left rear).

I'm not sure but, I think you could print a transparency replica of the denomination label to paste on the backside of the glass?  I would have to remove the illumination behind that area to really tell.  If you get it up and running the red on each side has "coin accepted/insert coins" play lamps.

Before you consider the upper glass finished, hold it up to a light source.  It looks like there are some abrasions (dark smudges) that mine also had.  In my case those were areas where the black masking was abraded allowing the back lighting to leak through.  I used a paint pen to re-black the areas.  You need to do it on a light table (or other source) to make sure you completely fill in the missing masking.

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Next step, the candle above the machine.

Do you have extra parts in a box somewhere?  I noticed that neither of your machines had candles (and I don't either) so I was wondering about that myself.

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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #33 on: August 26, 2015, 09:48:21 AM »
Bally originally made the award glass in $ amounts, and then later on changed to coins.
As you can guess, having awards in coin amounts made it a lot easier to convert machines from nickels to quarters to dimes or whatever.
You didn't have to buy an extra glass when you changed denoms.  A lot of casinos tried to customize their floor plan by denom change to maximize their play.
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #34 on: August 31, 2015, 12:15:54 PM »
Hello,


Thank you for the indication of the payments and the denomination !


I finally made a Bally sign in place of the denomination circle in the lower center of the glass panel.


Hehe, yes, there is really a candle, and it’s visible on the first picture of this post.


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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #35 on: August 31, 2015, 09:53:01 PM »
Hello,


Here is the candle. This is one of the most damaged metal parts on this machine !




This is only an assemblage of few metal sheet !




The support plate which is fixed to the machine is deformed. And according to the visual aspect of the wood in the fixing screws, I guess that the candle was blown off and not unscrewed from the holder ...




This is not very visible in the photo, but all parts are cleaned with Belgom Chrome.
I also straightened the support plate (bottom right of the photo).




Once rebuilt. The difference after the cleaning is not fantastic, but at least it's clean.




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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #36 on: September 01, 2015, 02:32:14 AM »
You did a great job cleaning and straightening the metal parts. Many years ago on the the old forum there were several members who had the plastic top for your candle.  I am sure that they are still out there.  In your case you the appropriate color for your candle cap would be yellow.


Keep up the good work!
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #37 on: September 01, 2015, 11:53:30 AM »
Thank you for this information  :thank_you:
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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #38 on: September 01, 2015, 09:36:28 PM »
Hello,


Until now it was quite easy, some Belgom Chrome, a little soap, nothing very complicated, and there was no mechanism (except on the counting wheel).
The next step is the cleaning and checking of all the reel assembly.
This whole mechanism is its juice for years ... ditto for reel strip, that are very dirty.




We can see very well all the grease on the stop index reel.







We start with the reel out of their support.
We can also see clearly how the bands are dirty, I did a test on the middle band, dirt seems to be removed easily.




All the reels are held on the shaft via some E-ring.
Two screws fixing the reel on the bearing hub are missing, but I found these screws in the box at the bottom of the machine.




Each reel is between 2 E-ring.




The disk with the notches is called the "stop index reel", and thanks to this disc the machine knows what symbol is displayed. It is fixed to the bearing hub via 4 screws.




Once the disc is located relative to the bearing hub, the 4 screws are removed. The bearing hub has two needle bearings. There is a small mixture of grease and oil, it will need a F-gasoline bath for refurbishing.




First fast cleaning with a rag. I removed the label to give it later, after all it dates from 1973 so as to keep it !
At last we can see the reference of the drive is a 684-8.




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Re: The last machine arrived at home, Bally 873 5-line
« Reply #39 on: September 02, 2015, 04:52:46 AM »
Great pictures!  That cleaning stuff you use is magic.  What are you going to use to lubricate the needle bearings?


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