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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #20 on: October 11, 2014, 06:03:23 AM »
O.K. guys, I live close, about 30 miles from there, so here is my 2 cents.  I am a firefighter, have been for over 35 years, and i know a lot about hazardous materials / bio containment procedures etc.   I will tell you straight up, the govt. is feeding the public a load of shit about this!!!!   When personnel are wearing are wearing level B suits, (the public calls them moon suits) and then tells you that you cant be exposed by contact with surfaces, etc its a load of horse crap.  Those suits aint cheap, and you dont wear the damn things unless you have to!. CDC and multiple other long term studies have shown that the virus can live on surfaces outside of the body for up to six to ten days, dependent on the variant strain.  That's strong stuff gents.  The Feds, the locals, and the hospital have all dropped the damn ball big time here!
As for me and mine, we are staying the hell away from Dallas, and taking extra precautions, as I think everyone else should.

 
One only needs to read the book Hot Zone by Richard Preston to get the big picture of what this virus really is. I've had this book on my bookshelf for 20+ years and it explains the research done in the early 80's with this virus at the CDC in Atlanta and the Reston Monkey House just outside Washington DC. Medical research teams of Army doctors and the CDC did extensive testing and attempts to develop anti-bodies to this virus. An interesting point during the study at the Reston location where they had caged monkeys infected with the virus on one side of the room and non-infected caged monkeys on the other. The lab was a sterile environment with workers wearing haz-mat suites but within one week the non-infected monkeys were testing positive. The military currently claims that airborne transmission has not occurred in humans and that there are many variant or strains of this virus. The possibility of this being airborne is a reality. If that's not scary enough, to see what this virus does internally on the human body will really freak you out. It destroys the cell walls of the internal organs and turns them into liquid, a very painful death. The upside it's usually quick, within 3 or 4 days of full onset.
 
 
 Ever since 9/11 I have been issued a bio-hazard kit that stays with me in my car. It contains a Tyvek level 1 suite. Nitrile gloves and boots, a roll of duct tape, 3 Mark I auto injectors and one canister filter for use in nerve agents and other toxic materials. Death by nerve agents is gruesome as it affects the body with signs and symptoms of SLUDGE,   S= Salivation  L= Lacrimation (tearing)  U= Urination  D= Defecation or Diarrhea  G= GI Distress  E= Emesis (vomiting)   at least with a nerve agent once the body is deceased and relocated outside the hot zone it doesn't spread to others. EBOLA continues to live and consume the corpse of the victim until it's destroyed by cremation in a retort chamber.   Ya, this one scares the hell out of me!
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #21 on: October 12, 2014, 03:50:18 PM »
Well, just seen one of the Dallas Ebola patients nurses has tested positive after reporting a low grade fever....apparently, she wore the protective gear while attending to Duncan, however, there may have been a "breach" according to officials.  :duh: :duh: :duh:




How in the hell is there a "breach" when healthcare personnel are aware of the danger associated?????
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #22 on: October 12, 2014, 03:59:47 PM »
Well, just seen one of the Dallas Ebola patients nurses has tested positive after reporting a low grade fever....apparently, she wore the protective gear while attending to Duncan, however, there may have been a "breach" according to officials.  :duh: :duh: :duh:




How in the hell is there a "breach" when healthcare personnel are aware of the danger associated? ??? ?

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #23 on: October 12, 2014, 08:25:30 PM »
Probably not the best idea...
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #24 on: October 15, 2014, 01:24:26 PM »
And so it begins....
Second one in Dallas and she just got back from a flight to Cleveland. Took her own temp, which was elevated, but because it would have interfered with wedding plans she'd rather jeopardize god knows how many people than get checked after one of her colleagues tested positive a few days earlier. People are to self centered to give us a really good shot at containment.

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #25 on: October 15, 2014, 04:57:43 PM »
The big question is, why isn't everyone who treated the guy in quarantine until the so called "incubation" period passes?
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #26 on: October 15, 2014, 06:11:42 PM »
They're professionals, they're self-monitoring

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #27 on: October 15, 2014, 07:03:39 PM »
They are professionals But they are also normal under-paid folks thrown into this Ebola mess.  There was talk of cutting of flights etc. from infected areas. I would agree with this but the military and Gov. prob. won't.  Slap in the face-This sheet is here and coming here every day in my opinion.   

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #28 on: October 15, 2014, 07:31:20 PM »
Story we're hearing on local news is that this person was in town to visit her mother in Tallmadge and plan her wedding....yep about 5 miles north of our shop.  :EmoticonHelp4: :EmoticonHelp4: :EmoticonHelp4:  As a result were running some blow-out specials...

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #29 on: October 15, 2014, 07:43:09 PM »
Jim, Perhaps "red-light" specials-- :Tongue_Out: ,  No joke though this sheet is real.

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #30 on: October 15, 2014, 08:03:25 PM »
I am just totally disappointed in the nurse for even boarding the plane in the first place. She had already taken her temperature and KNEW she had a low grade fever!!! If we cannot trust our care givers to monitor themselves (when at a known risk) and be mindful of others health and safety, then WTF?!?!?
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #31 on: October 15, 2014, 08:20:23 PM »
Maybe I should have said "E-blow-out specials".


Have to say its a little scary at this point.  It's one thing when it was a 1000 miles away and a whole other thing when the people that person associated with during her visit could very well be at the stores, gas stations, bank, post office, etc. that we go to on a regular almost daily basis.  Knowing the incubation period is about 7 days I've already told my wife we will be in lock down for 2 weeks beginning 6 days from now.  I'm picking up supplies tomorrow for two months and we will not be out in public... period, only to work and straight home, until I hear something one way or another here locally.  Based on what I've heard in the news, she was potentially infective at the tail end of her trip and just before she got on the flight back to Dallas with hugs and kisses goodbye no doubt.   I've already told the subcontractors that work for me that shop is shutting down for at least two weeks although I will still be working...I just don't want them around and customers will have to wait.  Fortunately my wife works by herself at a oil refinery lab and wears a lot of protective gear and other than walking by a guard house does not need to associate with anyone.


Am I overreacting?  I don't think so at this point.  With the ongoing moronic decisions, or lack there of, and lack of control from the "professionals", we have now seen the disease brought into the country passed onto at least two and likely more health care workers that had at least some protection, and allowed to travel all the way to another state with the potential for another blossoming up here to begin and spread.

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #32 on: October 15, 2014, 08:24:02 PM »
I agree with folks that have "hands-on" dealing with this.  There are normal ailments that induce fever etc. other than this sheet so this is a tough one.  I still think the gov. is not forwarding all the info. on this yet.  As another stated- "Zombies"  only thing is the zombies Don't live --yet.  Sorry jim,  We cross-posted.  I agree with you and what you said.  I will do the same here.  I think this is a bigger epidemic than is stated on media news. 

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #33 on: October 16, 2014, 07:35:59 AM »
I don't think it's an overreaction at all Jim. We live in a small town that is a tour bus stop coming from San Francisco on the way to Yosemite. The grocery store that I usually shop at sees, literally, 100s of international (mostly European and Asian) tourists daily. The tourists love our produce. After seeing Duncan flew out of Africa, landed in Belgium, then on to New York, it is easy to see how an infected person could spread that "love" pretty quickly around the world....needless to say, I have changed my shopping habits until further notice, as I don't even like to think of all the possibilities of contamination in that store (restrooms, produce, bakery, cash register touch screens, shopping carts)...
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #34 on: October 16, 2014, 01:38:17 PM »
I am just totally disappointed in the nurse for even boarding the plane in the first place. She had already taken her temperature and KNEW she had a low grade fever!!!
Well let's not blame her totally.
She called the CDC TWICE and told them about her low grade fever and they TOLD HER it was OK to take the flight.

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #35 on: October 16, 2014, 03:28:56 PM »
True, true...I've been following it and I have never heard that they specifically told her it was "OK" to fly, just that they never told her NOT to fly. Same difference, but one covers CDC's butt more than the other. At that point, there was no policy in place, so they really had to tread lightly on restricting someone from traveling since she had not officially tested positive yet.
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #36 on: October 16, 2014, 05:02:52 PM »
, there was no policy in place, so they really had to tread lightly...

Not true, they had a policy and they knew exactly who she was. The problem was she did not meet the requirements to hold flight restrictions on her since the requirement was a temp of 100.4 and she only had a temp of 99.5
 
They really need to look at their procedures and get a grip on this.
 
http://www.cbsnews.com/news/ebola-nurse-called-cdc-several-times/

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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #37 on: October 17, 2014, 08:39:29 AM »
Thanks Neon! I feel better knowing there was a policy in place! Lame stream media doesn't tell much and this is the first I had heard! Youve been very informative on this topic!  :hail: :hail:
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Re: Ebola.... NLG's Featured Post of the Week
« Reply #38 on: October 18, 2014, 09:49:20 AM »
I agree that we need to be careful dealing with this.

I have another question why do we allow people that have a cold, flu, any GI infection, or the like that can easily spread go to work or school.

I think if someone has a Cold, Flu, any food born illness, or the like should be required to stay home from work or school.
If it is serious enough go to the doctor or such
I know listing colds is a bit much but it could be more serious than a cold.

Medicine is not an exact science either.
Any one that watched House would know what I mean.


 

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