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takasago video poker help
« on: September 19, 2017, 07:59:56 PM »
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just pick this one up it would light up but thats all. I pulled the monitor and the  main board all looked ok it has a battery i've never seen before (i will post pic later) and put all back in, plug it in and it played one hand and thats all. it has a nickel in the comparer  but the screen says 25. the guy did say it played 5 cent . it did give me a checksum error but went away when i turned it off then on. it will not count coin in. any one with a manual? to setup coin in
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #1 on: September 19, 2017, 09:12:02 PM »
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #2 on: September 19, 2017, 09:36:22 PM »
battery/supercap had .176 of a volt and my cap checker shows it bad if you can check it that way.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #3 on: September 19, 2017, 10:42:25 PM »
I don't know anything about this particular machine, sorry. But wanted to say that a "supercap" is technically a capacitor that has very low loss, so it can store a voltage for a long time and that lets it act like a battery. When the machine is powered on the supercap will charge to the full voltage it is connected to (often 5 volts or similar in things like this). Then when the machine is powered off the supercap will send that voltage to the cmos ram chip it is keeping "alive" while the machine is powered off. This preserves the data in the cmos ram chip. Many electronic devices use a supercap instead of a battery because the supercap lasts for a much longer time than a battery.

Your cap checker may be giving a false reading because the supercap is installed in the circuit board and is connected to other circuits. If the supercap is not holding a charge it is likely bad, you can try replacing it. Also, a defective cmos ram chip can be shorted internally and drain the supercap voltage, so that is a possibility too. The cmos ram chip is likely the large chip near the supercap.

I checked the NLG download area for manuals on Takasago but didn't find anything. My search found that Takasago is mainly known for their pachislo machines, but below may be a manual for this slot machine, you'd want to check with them to see what machine model it covers:

http://stealthhome.stores.yahoo.net/tausma.html
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #4 on: September 20, 2017, 06:08:42 AM »
the supercap is a 5.5v .033mf. the cap checker is a "Blue ESR checker" which makes finding bad caps in circuit easy and fast.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #5 on: September 20, 2017, 08:01:15 AM »
the supercap is a 5.5v .033mf. the cap checker is a "Blue ESR checker" which makes finding bad caps in circuit easy and fast.

Sounds like the supercap is bad and will need to be replaced.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #6 on: September 20, 2017, 09:29:26 AM »
i replaced it and i got it to play but only counts credits when the door is open if i shut the door the coins just go through. and it does not payout yet?
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #7 on: September 20, 2017, 11:54:38 AM »
That's odd behavior. Is there a door switch that tells the machine when the door is open or closed? If so, maybe someone switched the wires around on it??

Do you mean it only gives you a credit for coins inserted if you leave the door open? Not understanding your wording, please be specific or more clear.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #8 on: September 20, 2017, 02:03:18 PM »
OK i got it working with door open and closed. the coin comparor needed some work it still lets all coins in but seems only to credit the quarters if i put a nickel in it passes to the hopper but no credit. it still will not pay out but then the pay out button is broken. it does add credits with a winning hand which can be played. the screen is really burned in and the colors are not right.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #9 on: September 20, 2017, 02:19:50 PM »
need a button
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #10 on: September 20, 2017, 06:51:04 PM »
OK i got it working with door open and closed. the coin comparor needed some work it still lets all coins in but seems only to credit the quarters if i put a nickel in it passes to the hopper but no credit. it still will not pay out but then the pay out button is broken. it does add credits with a winning hand which can be played. the screen is really burned in and the colors are not right.

On slot machines that I am familiar with you can only use one type of coin, can not mix them. So if your coin acceptor/coin comparitor is setup for quarters that is the only coin you can use. If you put different size coins into your hopper that can cause problems like coin jams. Can you post a photo of your coin comparitor?

Machines that have CRT displays will have screen burn after all the years of use. The same thing used to happen on computer monitors. The phosphor coating on the inside of the CRT gets a permanent image. You can try to improve it by adjusting the screen brightness a little, or adjust the contrast control (if there is one). Otherwise it is what it is. You could try to find another display of the same or similar type and swap them out. And sometimes you can upgrade a machine to an LCD display.

Your photo looks good, the display is not too bad considering the age of the machine. So the machine is pretty much working now?

You said something about needing a button but I can't tell what it looks like. You might be able to use a generic pushbutton made for another machine, like IGT or Bally, as long as it was the right size. Can you post a closeup photo of the button that you need?
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #11 on: September 20, 2017, 07:35:09 PM »
yes it now plays good .....so far. heres the switch i need
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #12 on: September 20, 2017, 07:49:15 PM »
How did you improve the display image, it is better in the last photo compared to the photo in your first post?

The coin comparitor will only give you credit for play when you insert the proper coin into the machine that matches the coin installed in the coin comparitor. You will not get any credits for coins that don't match the coin installed in the coin comparitor, and those improper coins should get rejected back to the coin return on front of machine.

Your machine has a CC-40 coin comparitor. It has an example coin installed in it, this is called the "sample" coin. To play the machine you must insert coins that match this sample coin, no other type of coin is to be used. The sample coin needs to be mounted in the coin holder with its left edge properly in the groove for holding it in place. The sliding coin cover should be as far to the left as possible so that it covers the sample coin as much as possible and the sliding cover screw should be tightened so that the coin cover is laying as close to the sample coin as possible. In the lower right corner of the coin comparitor is a small sensitivity adjustment, it should be turned all the way counter-clockwise to reduce nuisance coin rejections. You can use a small screwdriver to make this adjustment.

Someone may had messed with the coin comparitor and made it so that all coins pass thru. Normally it should only let coins that match the sample coin pass thru to the hopper. Any other coin that isn't like the sample coin should get rejected by the coin comparitor and get sent to the front of the machine back to the player. On the back of the coin comparitor is a metal part called the rake. It's job is to steer rejected coins back to the front of the machine. When the correct coin is inserted the rake will move out of the way and the accepted coin will go to the hopper. Sometimes people will jam or force open the rake so that all coins get past it and go to the hopper. So remove your CC-40 coin comparitor and examine the back of it, see if the rake has been rigged open.

I can't see anything wrong with the pushbuttons in your photo, is the problem a broken button switch or maybe a bad bulb?


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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #13 on: September 20, 2017, 08:06:32 PM »
yes one switch is broken i made it the pay out button because it was one of the card hold ones. it is missing one tab that holds it in and it looks like the magnet thing is missing.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #14 on: September 20, 2017, 08:12:04 PM »
That's a good solution, move the bad pushbutton to one of the button positions that is not used or not used very much. Can you glue something to the button in place of the broken tab to hold it in place? Is there a "service" or "call attendant" button, if so they are not needed for home use.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2017, 08:12:44 PM »
I have a wide range of spare buttons, but nothing like those?
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2017, 08:14:25 PM »
yeah, those are special buttons. Looks like each one has a little circuit board with resistors and maybe other parts.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #17 on: September 20, 2017, 08:21:50 PM »
you called it on the rake it was stuck now 5cents fall through. pics of the buttons
green is bad
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #18 on: September 20, 2017, 10:04:26 PM »
Is there a name molded into that white plastic part of the switch? Not likely the Takasago company made the switch itself, they probably bought it from a company that makes switches. If there is a name on it you might be able to locate another one on the internet somewhere. Or look on ebay, you'd be surprised at the oddball and obscure items you can find on there.

Another idea, you could probably find a pushbutton with switch that would fit the hole in the player button panel where that bad pushbutton goes. They make pushbutton switches that are round, square and rectangular. The wires underneath could be connected to the new pushbutton, usually 2 wires go to the switch contacts and 2 other wires go to the light bulb inside the pushbutton.  It wouldn't match the other pushbuttons, but if it was off to the side then it may not be a problem.

Where did you get this Takasago machine? Do they have others, maybe non-working ones that you could get parts from? On something like this it might even be a good idea to buy a broken machine to use as a parts machine.
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Re: takasago video poker help
« Reply #19 on: September 20, 2017, 10:22:28 PM »
What kind of sounds does the machine make, are they simple or more elaborate, like when you get a good hand? I've not played or seen one of these machines but I've heard that many were at the old Las Vegas Imperial Palace and the airport at one time. Is your machine working fine except for the one button problem?

Longshot, but maybe worth a try- there is a guy named Robert Sult, he is/was a slot machine and bench repair tech at Treasure Island in LV. He's been in the slot repair business for many years. For about 7 years he was a distributor and repair person for Takasago slot machines and video poker machines. If you can get a hold of him he might be able to get you a manual and parts, or be able to help in some way.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/robert-sult-97184910


Below is his personal website, he's into a lot of different stuff, his email address is at the bottom of his webpage, maybe you can contact him that way:

http://www.myslotnotes.com/

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