Author Topic: Bally 873 NO payout (Read 10859 times)

Jon · « **Reply #20 on:** October 18, 2016, 05:46:35 PM »

Can you get me one straight on the switch I want to see the wires where they look up

DirtinLa · « **Reply #21 on:** October 18, 2016, 05:47:43 PM »

ok, so when I put in a coin and check the coin relay it has tripped the switches

all I posted about the comtinuity thru the plugs I guess is null and void as the coin is tripping the coin relay

So where to now

Jon · « **Reply #22 on:** October 18, 2016, 05:52:20 PM »

Yes and now we need to follow the circuit from the coin relay to the handle release relay the wires to that switch in that picture do not look good that's why I'm asking for another picture of that switch here is an example of what I need to see

DirtinLa · « **Reply #23 on:** October 18, 2016, 05:53:23 PM »

THIS IS THE COIN SWITCH ON THE DOOR?

THERE IS NO SWITCH LIKE THIS BY THE HANDLE

Jon · « **Reply #24 on:** October 18, 2016, 05:55:00 PM »

And I believe besides the handle release that the machine will not pay

Jon · « **Reply #25 on:** October 18, 2016, 05:59:24 PM »

I think that orange green wire according to all the machines I have in my game room the manual and everything I know has got to go to that right most terminal I do not know if you have a copy of the manual if not you can go to my Facebook page and download it on page 20 it shows the coin switch which activates the coin relay and when the coins which goes back up and make contact to the orange green wire the normally closed terminal on the switch it is over along the system and then it's down to the handle release so you will have no handle release No step up and no pay without that wire hooked up properly

DirtinLa · « **Reply #26 on:** October 18, 2016, 06:02:20 PM »

I guess what you missed is at one point it was accepting coins and the handle would pull and it also would accept multiple coins and

the handle would pull it just would not payout

trying to fix the payout the handle quit working

Jon · « **Reply #27 on:** October 18, 2016, 06:14:19 PM »

I have read all the posts and like you said you know old em equipment
If you look at page 20 you will see the coin dump switch the common wire comes into it and normally closed is the wire that activates the handle release coil and the payout it is hooked up to the normally open as well as the wire going to the coil relay you will have no handle release and no pay out the way it is wired unless the switch was malfunctioning at one time slow opening maybe it wouldn't last long enough to function I cannot imagine it move the orange green wire to that switch terminal

Jon · « **Reply #28 on:** October 18, 2016, 06:38:44 PM »

As you can see from the wiring diagram if the coin in switch stayed close a fraction of a second Google it would have played in counted coins
But not paid I have had switches hang up and cause all kinds of problems I'm sure when someone else comes in and looks at your picture they will tell you the same thing really common problem on that switch

DirtinLa · « **Reply #29 on:** October 18, 2016, 06:54:39 PM »

ok, not to ignore the last two comments. But I have been working on the handle release issue and I got it to work.

You insert a coin and it still does not say coin accepted like it had in the past.

Now it 2 steps to two coins when you add one

it will step all the way to 5 coins.

now back to where we began

no payout

now I will go back and read your post about the wiring and get back to you shortly

thanx for your assistance

-=Fred=-

DavidLee · « **Reply #30 on:** October 18, 2016, 06:56:13 PM »

Looking at the photo of the coin switch. It looks like there are two wires on the the center solder connection.
If that is the case the wires needs to be corrected as in the schematic that Jon posted. Slight possibility that the machine has be modified resulting two wires on the same joint.
Also as mentioned if the switch doesn't return all the way back up will this will cause a malfunction.

DirtinLa · « **Reply #31 on:** October 18, 2016, 07:06:10 PM »

please see my rewire information in the pic is this correct???

UPDATE I REWIRED THE GREEN WITH RED TO THE 3RD TERM AND THE OR W GR TRACE TO THE CENTER

STILL NO PAYOUT HMMMMMMMMM

IS THIS CORRECT OR SHOULD THE WIRES BE REVERSED?

Jon · « **Reply #32 on:** October 18, 2016, 07:29:22 PM »

No sir leave the blue wire where it is on the second terminal move the orange wire to the third terminal

On the back of the switch it will have common normally open and normally closed in that order check it make sure the yellow wire goes to Common the blue with Tracer goes to normally open the orange wire goes to normally closed some switches battery replacement are backwards on the normally open and normally closed with the wires soldered on like that I am suspicious someone may have replaced that switch I always check and double-check

DavidLee · « **Reply #33 on:** October 18, 2016, 07:35:32 PM »

The blue yellow goes on the center and the orange red on the end. I'm not at my shop to confirm, but Jon's photo and drawing indicates the correct wire positions. Solder or use test leads. Test leads should be checked for continuity and there is a chance they might short while operating the machine.

Amechanic · « **Reply #34 on:** October 18, 2016, 08:16:08 PM »

Here is a picture of the coin switch in my MGM 955..

DirtinLa · « **Reply #35 on:** October 18, 2016, 09:04:58 PM »

I can't thank y'all enough

I now have a paying machine woohooo

who would have thought those wires were soldered wrong

But it now works

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU

Have more tweeks to do. but mostly cosmetic!!!!

-=Fred=-

P.S. pic attached of the properly placed wires on the switch

DavidLee · « **Reply #36 on:** October 18, 2016, 09:09:03 PM »

Glad you got the machine paying.

Jon · « **Reply #37 on:** October 18, 2016, 09:13:38 PM »

Sweet

Amechanic · « **Reply #38 on:** October 18, 2016, 09:17:15 PM »

WooHoo... That's great news that its fixed..

Gary

Jon · « **Reply #39 on:** October 19, 2016, 11:45:39 AM »

I am wondering if that machine was rewired not to pay because it was in a state where you could not have a functioning slot machine I have seen some very interesting modifications over the years to stop machines from paying
I wish we could find more history on some of these machines where they went who had them it would be very interesting

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