Author Topic: IGT red white blue (Read 12253 times)

Ken · « **Reply #20 on:** February 28, 2017, 12:02:52 PM »

Quote from: knagl on February 27, 2017, 07:00:34 PM

Ken: my apologies, I was the one who read it wrong. Oops!

Thanks for the help on making me think I was losing it! LOL ... get enough of that from my wife.

FastEd · « **Reply #21 on:** February 28, 2017, 12:25:25 PM »

Ken,

I've looked at the board and it doesn't appear anything is bent or disturbed.
I hear one ding when I turn on the machine. Nothing displayed in the windows at this point. I push the test button for 4 seconds and I see "0" in the coins played window along with a continuous ding and nothing else takes place....

-Ed

FastEd · « **Reply #22 on:** February 28, 2017, 12:40:36 PM »

Thanks Shaggy,

Everything seems to be good with the pins. None bent.... I have checked the board numerous times and it is seated well....

-Ed

Ken · « **Reply #23 on:** February 28, 2017, 12:45:46 PM »

Try pushing and releasing the self test switch button .. don't press and hold at this time.

FastEd · « **Reply #24 on:** February 28, 2017, 12:59:06 PM »

Ken,

I just tried pushing and releasing the test button and a "0" appeared in the coins played window. After approximately 10 seconds, the "0" disappeared.... Nothing after that....
However, I didn't get the continuous ding!!!!

-Ed

Ken · « **Reply #25 on:** February 28, 2017, 01:04:31 PM »

Did you hear a ding when you first turned the machine on this time?

Jim · « **Reply #26 on:** February 28, 2017, 01:15:59 PM »

Ed, I would put everything back as it should be and start over, put the SP chip back in ( observe the notch) put the board back in and fire it up and try to do the 61/61_1 again.

where did you get the clear chip from? is it the correct clear for a S+? this clearing procedure is pretty much automatic, turn the machine on, ding, press the test button once, the machine will count two cycles, done. shaping up to look like the e-squared chip is bad on the motherboard, its the only chip on the board, an eight pin chip. usually if you can't clear a 61, that's a classic tell tale sign that the chip is bad.

Jim

FastEd · « **Reply #27 on:** February 28, 2017, 01:30:41 PM »

At the risk of boring you all, let begin again on how this all started and I decided to try the clear chip.

Like a foolish ol'man, I bought two machines.... One of the machines (#1) is working fine after replacing the battery and simply following the process to get it up and working. I also replaced the battery in the other machine (#2), the Red, White and Blue machine we are discussing. However, following the same process, after replacing the battery, didn't work for me. So, I thought it might be the board.
However, when I put the board from that machine (#1), into the machine I'm working on, (#2) I get the same error "63".
Also, when I put the board from #2 into #1 it works fine....
Hope this is not too confusing.... I know I'm getting confused myself!!!!

Thanks for listening,,,,

-Ed

rokgpsman · « **Reply #28 on:** February 28, 2017, 01:38:33 PM »

That is good thinking and normal troubleshooting when you have a second similar machine available.

Nothing wrong with what you did.

IGT S+ machines are known for sometimes getting stuck in a 61 error loop, that's one of the main uses for the CLEAR chip.

rokgpsman · « **Reply #29 on:** February 28, 2017, 01:42:34 PM »

Quote from: Jim on February 28, 2017, 01:15:59 PM

..... shaping up to look like the e-squared chip is bad on the motherboard, its the only chip on the board, an eight pin chip. usually if you can't clear a 61, that's a classic tell tale sign that the chip is bad.

Jim

Jim, is that eeprom chip socketed or soldered to the motherboard?

FastEd · « **Reply #30 on:** February 28, 2017, 02:32:12 PM »

This is the board we are working with!!!!

Hope it's clear enough to see....

-Ed

Jim · « **Reply #31 on:** February 28, 2017, 03:02:34 PM »

the board you pictured is the cpu board, the mother board is the board that the cpu board plugs into, its located on the bottom of the cabinet.

the eeprom is typically soldered to the board.

Jim

FastEd · « **Reply #32 on:** February 28, 2017, 03:09:22 PM »

Jim, please allow me to repeat myself!!!! I'm a novice at best,,,, sorry....

Thanks again,,,,

-Ed

knagl · « **Reply #33 on:** February 28, 2017, 11:56:14 PM »

Quote from: Ken on February 28, 2017, 12:02:52 PM

Thanks for the help on making me think I was losing it! LOL ... get enough of that from my wife.

Ha! Sounds like she needs to start nagging at me.

Quote from: FastEd on February 28, 2017, 01:30:41 PM

However, when I put the board from that machine (#1), into the machine I'm working on, (#2) I get the same error "63".

To be clear, when you put the MPU board from your working machine into the problem machine, are you using the same chips (SP and SS) from the working machine, or are you swapping the chips? If you were swapping them, I'd be interested in having you put the board, working chips and all (even if it's a different game theme/title), into the problem machine to see what happens.

FastEd · « **Reply #34 on:** March 02, 2017, 06:15:03 AM »

Good morning with good news!!!!

Well, here is a recap.... Keeping in mind I'm a novice at best. I installed the clear chip,. got a continuous ding and let it ding for 90 seconds, thinking it was part of the counting process. Put the game chip back in, turned on the machine with the same results, nothing different.... I repeated the process again, with the same outcome....So, after sitting and staring at the board, for a considerable period of time, I decided to put the game chip back in, for the last time, and start the machine one more time....To my SURPRISE, I finally got the elusive, error 65.1 and continued from there!!!! IT WORKED!!!! I then followed instructions on the BV chip and it appears to have worked.... The only issue I have now is the BV will take a $20.00 bill but seems to disappear somewhere. When I remove the cash box, it is crumbled behind the cashbox... I'll keep working on that issue....
All in all, it has been a very educational journey....
I want to thank you for all your patience and assistance....
Sorry for rambling on,,,,

Thanks again,,,,
Respectfully,

-Ed

knagl · « **Reply #35 on:** March 03, 2017, 07:56:53 AM »

Congrats on getting your machine working. Not sure that your clear chip is good, but I guess it's a moot point right now.

I'm marking this topic as solved. Please create a new thread if you need further assistance with your bill validator issue.

FastEd · « **Reply #36 on:** March 04, 2017, 11:10:41 AM »

Thanks knagl and a big thank you to all who walked me through this process!!!!
Much appreciated....

-Ed

FastEd · « **Reply #37 on:** April 04, 2017, 06:13:45 AM »

Hello again,,,,
Well, after getting this machine to work properly for approximately a month, I'm now getting a code 43 and the reels spin continuously. I then turn the reset key (with the door open), and they stop until I close the door and they begin to spin again....

Any suggestions would be much appreciated.....

-Ed

rickhunter · « **Reply #38 on:** April 04, 2017, 10:31:23 AM »

Assuming that you have checked to make sure there are no obstructions for the 3rd reel to keep it from spinnig freely, with the power off switch the 3rd reel with the 2nd reel. If you get code 42, then you have a bad reel and need to get a new one. If you still get a code 43, then your reel control chip for the 3rd reel is having issues or there's a harness issue (check the harness to make sure it is not loose). You would need a new MPU board, or if you are handy with desoldering, you can move one of the unused reel 4 or 5 control chips over to 3 (most S+ boards were furnished with 5 reel control chips,but there are only a handful of s+ games with 5 reels, so it's ok to remove reel 4 and 5 chips).

FastEd · « **Reply #39 on:** April 05, 2017, 04:30:03 AM »

Thanks rickhunter,,,,

I switched reel 3 with reel 2 and the code remained the same. I also took a reel from another machine and placed it in reel slot 3 and then reel slot 2 with the same results each time, (code 43).
Again, all reels continuously spin. I then turn the reset key (with the door open), and they stop until I close the door and they begin to spin again....
All wiring and harnesses seem to be fine. Moving control chips sounds a little above my paygrade. I suppose I need to try or get another MPU.

Thanks again,,,,

-Ed

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