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IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« on: December 03, 2016, 08:35:58 AM »
Hello :wave: . I have a IGT s plus Double double diamond slot machine whit coin comparitor issue. My coin comparitor want accepted coins. They goes thru the coin tray all times. I have a norwegian 1 krone sampel coin inside. I have tested the coin in optic 10_1 - 11_1 and 12_1. When I put some small paiper in the encoder then its change from 1-0. Maybe I have wrong coin comparitor inside the machine. The coin comparitor are CC 16 E/ 100 2.6G IGT.  :EmoticonHelp4:

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*additional information from a different post*
« Reply #1 on: December 03, 2016, 09:14:45 AM »
What coin comparitor are you need to accepted norwegian 1 krone and coin encoder?  I have igt s plus made in 1989. I want my machine to accept norwegian 1 krone :EmoticonHelp4:

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Re: *additional information from a different post*
« Reply #2 on: December 03, 2016, 09:39:14 AM »
if it has an existing coin comparator then you just need to put the proper sample coin in. If it doesn't, then I believe you need a 13v, 16D model coin comparator

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Re: *additional information from a different post*
« Reply #3 on: December 03, 2016, 09:44:58 AM »
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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #4 on: December 04, 2016, 06:59:10 AM »
When i blocked the rake on the coin comparitor then they go thru the hopper and I get 21 error. When I closed the door the 21 error are gone. When I remove the blocking from the rake its go thru coin tray no error 21 shows.

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #5 on: December 04, 2016, 07:35:20 AM »
Looks like error 21 is related to the coin in issue. Do you have another type of coin or token you can try, like a US quarter, in case it is related specifically to the Norway coin for some reason? Perhaps for the coin comparitor to work the sample coin has to have some ferrous properties since that is how the comparitor works, by measuring how the sample coin affects a magnetic field. Just a guess.

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But this doesn't seen likely, since you blocked open the cc rake, allowing the coin to drop straight thru to the coin optics. Have you taken the coin optic boards off and cleaned the optic sensors, maybe they are dirty? However they are probably ok since they passed the test when you inserted a small piece of paper and the diagnostic changed.

Also, in between the boards there is supposed to be a spacer that causes smaller coins to shift to one side to make sure they pass thru in front of the coin optic sensors. If that spacer is missing the coin may not be passing in between the coin optic sensors. Sometimes people have that problem when they are using nickels or other smaller coins on a machine. If you are using the 1 Krone coin it is about the same size as a US nickel, I'd try a 5 or 10 Krone coin and see what happens, they are closer in size to a US quarter.

Here is what that coin spacer looks like:
http://www.spininc.com/03005-0

I don't know if that coin comparitor is the correct one for your machine, do you have another one you can try, maybe borrow from another machine?

« Last Edit: December 04, 2016, 07:54:25 AM by rokgpsman »
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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #6 on: December 04, 2016, 07:49:39 AM »
It might be the rake solenoid is bad. When you had it blocked open,  did you try with door closed? There's a little test button on the optic. With the door open you can add credit and spin reels.
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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #7 on: December 04, 2016, 08:50:00 AM »
The coin in optic are brand new. I have tested the white small button on the coin in optic. They give me credit when I push on it. The spacer in the coin in optic are 5 cent encoder.

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #8 on: December 04, 2016, 10:50:53 AM »
The coin in optic are brand new. I have tested the white small button on the coin in optic. They give me credit when I push on it. The spacer in the coin in optic are 5 cent encoder.

ok, that is good.
(it probably would have saved some time and helped if you'd let us know that in the beginning)   :wave:
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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #9 on: December 04, 2016, 11:16:17 AM »
I don't understand what you mean... :Scratch-Head:

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Re: *additional information from a different post*
« Reply #10 on: December 04, 2016, 11:21:42 AM »
So then the coin comparitor CC 16 E/ 100 2.6G are wrong cc to my IGT S+

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2016, 11:41:57 AM »
If we knew your coin in optics are brand new, that you had tested the little white button to see if you could add credits with it, then we wouldn't have spent time making the suggestions that we did. All of that is useful information.

It is helpful if you tell us what all you have done so we can eliminate some of the troubleshooting possibilities and ideas that don't apply.
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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2016, 03:04:14 PM »
I have change coin in optic, wiring back to the coin assembly , all 3 fuse and cc harness.

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2016, 03:23:14 PM »
Looks like error 21 is related to the coin in issue.

FWIW, a 21 error is expected if the rake is blocked and the coin is dropped in while the door is open, which is what I got out of Cashen87's message in Reply #4.  The machine isn't expecting a coin to be able to pass through the optics when the door is open (the coin comparator should be disabled), so it throws a coin-in error.


Do you have another type of coin or token you can try, like a US quarter, in case it is related specifically to the Norway coin for some reason? Perhaps for the coin comparitor to work the sample coin has to have some ferrous properties since that is how the comparitor works, by measuring how the sample coin affects a magnetic field. Just a guess.

I agree with this.  If you have access to any other coins/tokens of similar size, try those in the machine to see if you can get acceptance and credit.  Make sure to turn the sensitivity of the comparator to its minimum so it's less likely to reject coins.  Here's a visual on that adjustment: http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=10759.msg93615#msg93615



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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2016, 03:28:10 PM »
I have read some place you can remove Q4 from the coin in optic. I have some little little black chip or what the are on Q4 on my optic board :Scratch-Head:

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #15 on: December 04, 2016, 03:37:12 PM »
Thanks knagl :cool_thumb_up: I will check that tomorrow when I comming home from work...

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2016, 07:39:28 AM »
Hello. What happening If i remove the Q4 from the coin in optic board? I have read some place you can remove the Q4 :Scratch-Head:

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #17 on: December 05, 2016, 08:55:32 AM »
an S+ requires a 24 vac cc-16,  you can tell by the grey wires going to the rake coil. 

If you want to get your machine working for no money invested, remove Q-4 from the optic board ( it is a surface mounted transistor).  this will allow you to shim out the rake and the machine should operate as advertised.  If it does work like this,  remove the shim, and see if the cc-16 is working, if the coins go to the tray, the cc-16 is not working,  check the setting as was mentioned earlier, full ccw.  if either work then shim out the rake and continue using like this. the only noticeable difference would be the max coin insert, the machine will accept additional coins, but they will be returned after the game play as a payout.
other than that  you won't notice any difference.

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #18 on: December 05, 2016, 09:13:37 AM »
How do I do the full ccw setting as was mentioned earlier? :Scratch-Head:

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Re: IGT s plus coin comparitor issue
« Reply #19 on: December 05, 2016, 09:45:44 AM »
He's referring to the sensitivity adjustment screw on the face of the comparator. Use a small screwdriver, turn it to the left as far as it goes, but don't force it to hard

 

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