Author Topic: Empire King S+ missing bill acceptor (Read 26553 times)

off-track · « **Reply #20 on:** January 12, 2016, 07:16:15 PM »

Quote from: TheBrave on January 12, 2016, 10:10:02 AM

I put a multimeter on the female side of the optics (inside door on the right, not on the door itself) and I'm getting roughly 1.0 AC.

Not that it's important anymore but... that is the receiver. The opto transmitter is on the door itself. You have to get your camera lens just inline (tight fit) to see the narrow beam LED.

Is there a coin in the comparitor?

TheBrave · « **Reply #21 on:** January 12, 2016, 08:53:25 PM »

Sunrise, those are good links. Will try those soon.

Off track, I can see the optics working now as you describe. I do have a quarter in the compairator. Does the missing white door plunger have anything to do with the 64 code? I'm not sure about it.

cowboygames · « **Reply #22 on:** January 12, 2016, 09:01:44 PM »

Did you check the battery in the top box MPU as suggested earlier? Being over 15 years old it wouldn't surprise me if it was low or dead and causing issues

Shaggy · « **Reply #23 on:** January 13, 2016, 04:53:08 AM »

TheBrave, no the white switch is not used on your game. Sometimes those are used for a bypass. I was just trying to get info earlier. It's not causing any problem. I think as SunriseSide and Cowboygames mentioned, check the battery in the top box.

Dave

TheBrave · « **Reply #24 on:** January 13, 2016, 11:08:46 AM »

No I haven't checked it yet. I got called out of town for work so I'll just change it when I get back Thursday or Friday.

And again, I'm seriously thankful for all of the support! I know nobody has any obligation to answer my questions so it really means a lot.

I promise to check or change that battery soon! Btw you can call me Johnny

Shaggy · « **Reply #25 on:** January 13, 2016, 04:34:12 PM »

Actually Johnny, that's what this place is all about. We have a very unique site here. It's about helping new ones and then they help new ones etc. It's about the enjoyment of gaming machines and the ability to help others who enjoy it too. And if I sounded like you High School Principal there, or Guidance Counselor I'm sorry. I try not to act like a grownup if I can help it.

So ask away, that's what we're here for.

Dave

off-track · « **Reply #26 on:** January 13, 2016, 09:46:07 PM »

Quote from: Shaggy on January 13, 2016, 04:34:12 PM

I try not to act like a grownup if I can help it.

With a tag of "Shaggy", seriously?

On a side note.. what is this "top box" battery of which you speak? I an only aware of the MPU battery.

It's late but, and I know I've read of the 64/link error but, IIRC that didn't stop anything? If he has reel spin on power up, the displays blank and clear on door closure and the insert coin is lit shouldn't it work? Wouldn't the next possibility be to walk through the option settings?

knagl · « **Reply #27 on:** January 14, 2016, 04:07:37 AM »

Quote from: off-track on January 13, 2016, 09:46:07 PM

On a side note.. what is this "top box" battery of which you speak? I an only aware of the MPU battery.

It's late but, and I know I've read of the 64/link error but, IIRC that didn't stop anything? If he has reel spin on power up, the displays blank and clear on door closure and the insert coin is lit shouldn't it work? Wouldn't the next possibility be to walk through the option settings?

This game has a top-box bonus feature (the "King Kong" ape climbing up the top box glass and awarding a credit award), so the machine needs to be able to talk to the board(s) that run the top box bonus, or the game will tilt, which seems to be about where we're at right now.

TheBrave · « **Reply #28 on:** January 14, 2016, 09:00:38 PM »

Ok so I tore apart the top section and there is no battery to be found anywhere. Check the pics. I removed one board that was stacked on the other and didn't see one there and then did the same for another board below the Barcrest top. That one does have a button battery, which was putting out .4V, so I replaced with a new good one.

Put it all back together and got a reel 3 tilt code and cleared that. Now I'm back to the 64 code again. Obviously I'm still missing the link to the upstairs.

The good news is that I was able to connect the candle and one ground. The candle has the top white section blinking now.

If anyone can see a battery on any of these boards (with the exception of the button battery I replaced) let me know because I can't see it.

Johnny

TheBrave · « **Reply #29 on:** January 14, 2016, 09:06:07 PM »

Few more:

cowboygames · « **Reply #30 on:** January 14, 2016, 09:06:54 PM »

What indications, if any, do you get from the top box to show it is getting power

TheBrave · « **Reply #31 on:** January 14, 2016, 09:09:06 PM »

It lights up (?) The candle works now.

TheBrave · « **Reply #32 on:** January 14, 2016, 09:09:53 PM »

last of them:

cowboygames · « **Reply #33 on:** January 14, 2016, 09:35:32 PM »

That's not a barcrest top box, based on the sound chips it appears to be AC Coin. The CR2025 battery you replaced, was it on a board that's part of the top box mechanism? Have you tried a full clear of the machine since replacing that battery?

TheBrave · « **Reply #34 on:** January 14, 2016, 09:46:05 PM »

Yeah I see AC Coin printed on a few these boards. That battery was below the upstairs but it does have cables going up.

I didn't perform a full clear yet since replacing the battery. I'll do that next.

Johnny

Sunrise Side · « **Reply #35 on:** January 15, 2016, 04:29:33 AM »

Open the bottom door and press that button you posted a pic of earlier. Then close the door. That maybe the reset button for the board you replaced the battery on. That is how my AC Coin is designed.

TheBrave · « **Reply #36 on:** January 15, 2016, 10:03:09 AM »

Sunrise, I just tried that, and it cleared the code and the candle stopped flashing. Then it gave me a 65-3 so I turned the reset key and it showed 65-1. Pressed the self test button and it's back to 64.

I can try the clear chip on it, I suppose. I'm not sure where to go from here.

Johnny

TheBrave · « **Reply #37 on:** January 15, 2016, 12:29:18 PM »

Performed the clear chip, and according to my documentation, it's supposed to count up to 2999 and stop in the winner paid and credits windows. I get 1 and then 2 in the winner paid and 999 in the credits.

Other than that, it goes as described on the sheet including the cute little ding.

I checked the soldered battery with a multimeter and it's putting out 3.6v as it should.

Still getting the 64 code. Not sure what else to do. I don't wanna say it's a boat anchor yet! Could it maybe have something to do with the game chip in the photo?

Johnny

jay · « **Reply #38 on:** January 15, 2016, 03:57:23 PM »

I don't know too much about the bonus game, but I would remove the cable that interconnects the top box board with the lower components and clean the pins at each end with one of those white erasers then reseat. I would do that with the other various board interconnects as well.

I would also get the PSR for that game chip as it might have some info about the bonus games.

TheBrave · « **Reply #39 on:** January 15, 2016, 05:16:18 PM »

Hi jay. I've been monkey-ing with this thing all day, removing and re-seating ribbon cables and anything else that plugs in.

There's very little of anything for this machine online. I've tried looking for a PSR (including phone calls to vendors) and most haven't even heard of this game.

I think it's almost time to start throwing money at it - buying boards and whatever else I can get my hands on - to see if I hit something. I know of one person who has the stock of AC Coin and Slot boards in Texas, but he's hard to keep on the phone as he seems rather busy when I call. That might be the last of my options.

Johnny

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