3 card rack coin in timeout

[Badbaud]

Traced and Ohm'ed out the wires from the coin in switch to the board.

Door open / close circuit works.

Every coin in gives a coin in tilt.

Is there some other switch that needs to be activated to get a coin in to work without tilting?

[Sunrise Side]

3 card rack - Bally V2000 ?


If so, coin switch defective?


I had a coin jam error that would come and go. Changed the coin switch and error is gone.


Also had the second/lower  switch that counts the coins going to the bucket under the stand, was out of adjustment causing a tilt each time.

[Badbaud]

Changed the coin in switch twice, same problem, then connected a brand new pushbutton to the removed switch wires in case both switches were bad and same problem.

Bottom drop chute switch checks out good and ohms out to the board.

Checked all switch wires with a scope and no weird signals present, just 5V and ground where they should be.

[Sunrise Side]

With the power off, can you take the rake out of play from the comparitor so the coins go through the "coin in" path and watch the coin passing by the trip wire on the coin switch to see if the wire is hanging up and being delayed at any point? You can also stop the coin at the point where the coin meets the trip wire an let it down through the channel slowly by hand too see how the coin flows through the channel and reacts with the switch. If the trip wire binds or drags at any point, it seems to only takes a few milliseconds delay to cause the tilt.

[Badbaud]

No binding, this is some kind of machine side related problem because 3 different working racks do the same thing.

Holding the coin switch in my hand and flicking the wire produces the same tilt.

On our 3 card rack tester the error does not occur, all 3 racks work perfectly.

[Sunrise Side]

Maybe one of the following, door lock cam switch, hinge switch, attendant jackpot reset switch ?

[Badbaud]

The door lock cam switch was jumpered out.

The hinge switch works and the board recognizes door open and closed.

The reset key switch goes into accounting readings.

The hopper level switch operates the diverter coil properly.

Went through the entire wiring diagram, wire by wire, and every wire in the machine is connected to it's proper pin on the back plane connectors.

Been working on this whore for two weeks now.

[Sunrise Side]

Was it a dollar machine at one time and has the dollar coin return switch in there to the left of the comparitor ?


One of my machines has a toggle switch to the right hand side of the monitor, i have not figured out what it was for, but I believe i had to leave it in the down position for the machine to play.

[Amechanic]

Tim.. I know the IGT Fortune 1 machine has all the door buttons daisy chained together. If one sticks or has a problem the whole machine won't play. Do the Bally V2000 have something similar? Could a stuck door button cause a tilt? Do those hoppers have optics to count coins? Almost sounds like that machine has something wired backwards, N.O. where it should me N.C.??

Gary

[Badbaud]

Was it a dollar machine at one time and has the dollar coin return switch in there to the left of the comparitor ?


One of my machines has a toggle switch to the right hand side of the monitor, i have not figured out what it was for, but I believe i had to leave it in the down position for the machine to play.

I'll check for a toggle switch or two wires that used to be a toggle switch.

[Badbaud]

Tim.. I know the IGT Fortune 1 machine has all the door buttons daisy chained together. If one sticks or has a problem the whole machine won't play. Do the Bally V2000 have something similar? Could a stuck door button cause a tilt? Do those hoppers have optics to count coins? Almost sounds like that machine has something wired backwards, N.O. where it should me N.C.??

Gary

Tore the switch panel apart and traced each wire back to the MPU back plane plugs, no mis-wires found.

[Sunrise Side]

Try swapping out the hopper ?


Gary, the switches are individual inputs. Probably would be easier to find a bad switch if they were all in series.

[/size][size=78%]All the switches do have 3 wires using the NO & NC contacts, so when they are jumpered out they do have to be connected properly. I had one where the switch was taken out and all 3 wires were tied together and that was found to be one of my problems.[/size]


The coin switch can not be activated more then 50ms. That is fast!
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[/size][size=78%]This tilt for Bad Baud sure is a puzzler![/size]

[Sunrise Side]

BAD


Did you get this machine running? Very curious to see what the problem was.

[Badbaud]

Not yet. Lots of head scratching but the solution still eludes me.