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Author Topic: No diagrams for Bally 1096  (Read 858 times)

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #60 on: February 13, 2018, 08:13:58 PM »
I need to check. I'll get back to you.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #61 on: February 13, 2018, 08:22:50 PM »
You can set the reels for a payout using this simple method.
With the door open activate the coin in switch. Before pulling the handle, use your left hand to hold the clock fan from spinning. Pull the handle to kick the reels into motion. Now you can stop the reels with your right hand for any payout you like. It’s a little tricky at first lining them up. Also be careful of the metal edge that holds the reel tape in place the inside is very sharp. Let go of the clock while maintaining the reels in position.


Congratulations on finding the broken wire. Not a likely place for a wire to fail.


Looks like you need some #63 bulbs for either side of the reel glass. Possibly some 44s for the top and some 44 flasher type bulbs for the perimeter of the top glass.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #62 on: February 13, 2018, 09:13:01 PM »
I like running 47's over 44 bulbs. They run cooler and are easier to find.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #63 on: February 14, 2018, 07:43:38 PM »
Things are going south on me. The only way to get a payout is to reach behind the hopper and trip the payout relay.
I no longer have the insert coin or coin accepted lights. The lights on the 3rd coin no longer go out after the play. I can still play by flicking the coin switch 1, 2, or 3 times. Hope this is something simple and not another  broken wire .
I counted the bad bulbs:
#47 thirty.
#55 two.
#63 two.
FS T5 two.
 

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #64 on: February 14, 2018, 09:12:57 PM »
Clean and check the coin relay contacts for continuity. Same with the payout relay
Check that the coil mechanism has the small return tension spring in place.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #65 on: February 14, 2018, 09:23:56 PM »
Sometimes taking the reels in and out can cause a continuity problem with the beau plugs. Try to reseat the reels assembly to see what happens. I have bought a box of 100 #47 bulbs for a better price then 5 boxes of 10.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #66 on: February 14, 2018, 09:55:54 PM »
Also consider the operating temperature. If the machine hasn’t warmed up it could effect the switches.
Simple low tech beau plugs test if the machine doesn’t payout when it should. Try moving the hopper slightly in and out and from side to side. Same with the reel mechanism.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #67 on: February 15, 2018, 07:41:21 PM »
I went through the reel mech, hopper & beau plugs again and cleaned out the dirt that wasn't there. I pushed in the plunger on the payout unit (the one with all the washers) 4 or 5 times, and it works again! I have set up about 12 payouts and they all worked, even the correct amounts. could the payout unit cause this problem?

I still have no insert coin, deposit coin, or payout made lights. Could I have messed up that circuit while moving bulbs around?

Also, I'd like to get the bulbs. 35  #47,  12  #47 blinkers,  2  #55,  2 #63,  &  2  FS T5. How do I get them?

Thanks again for your help. I think we almost have it!

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #68 on: February 15, 2018, 09:07:34 PM »
The least expensive way to buy bulbs is in packs of 10 or 20 less than a $ each.
Same for fluorescent lamps around a $2.00 each online, but I think you can buy the fluorescents for a reasonable price at Home Depot. Check the Gameroom Guys online or Amazon.


Regarding the 3 indicator lights, sounds like the common Blue wire has an open. Check the white molex plug on the door near the door jamb between the hinges. Carefully move the wires on either side of the plug and watch for any change in the lights.


Check for continuity between solid blue wires.


Are the coin tray lights working?

If so you could jump the blue from the tray lights to the blue on the lights that aren’t working. This should give an indication to what side of the circuit is at fault.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #69 on: February 15, 2018, 09:28:21 PM »
Don't go to Home Depot for the fluorescent bulbs. Last time I looked for them they didn't carry any, but if they do expect to pay around $10 each for them. I use to buy all my bulbs from 1000 bulbs, but they don't carry the miniature bulbs like 63, 55, 47 any more. Do a google search for your bulbs, you should be able to find them all at one source to save on shipping. Check a source called bulb town or something like that.
Have you had your payout unit out of the machine? There is a rubber stop bumper on it that gets stick like the plunger and hopper star. When that happens it doesn't allow the relay to open, causing a no pay.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #70 on: February 16, 2018, 06:38:51 PM »
The insert coin bulb is bad. The glass spins in the socket. Would this open the circuit to the others?

I got all the bulbs ordered today from bulbtown.com. I had to kick in an extra $8.95 to get faster shipping. All bulbs with shipping came to $39.68.

Thanks!  Doug

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #71 on: February 16, 2018, 06:44:34 PM »
Quick question. Did you check the condition of the bulb/bulbs for your belly glass?
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #72 on: February 16, 2018, 07:35:24 PM »
Do you mean the florescent bulbs above & below the "100" ?

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #73 on: February 16, 2018, 10:26:33 PM »
Yes those.
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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #74 on: February 17, 2018, 01:13:43 PM »
This unit doesn't have tray lights. It has the mounting plates & the opaque plastic defusers but no wiring or bulbs.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #75 on: Yesterday at 06:38:00 PM »
I'm still trying to find why the insert coin, coin accepted & winner paid lights aren't working. The bulbs are good. Checked all the switches & beau plugs along that circuit. I don't have 6vac at those bulbs. The "$"  light (between insert & accepted) has 6vac and works. Still waiting for the new bulbs, hoping that might help, but I'm skeptical. I've been reading through the posts looking for a similar problem & tried all the possibilities. It's not an uncommon problem but all I've found is "the lights are now working" with no info on what they did to fix them. What am I missing?
Thanks, Doug.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #76 on: Yesterday at 10:10:14 PM »

If the $1.00 light blue wire in connected to the lights in question, then the opposite trace wire needs to be checked out.
If not, try[size=78%] jumping a solid yellow to the opposite side of the solid blue on the sockets in question. The light should light up.[/size]
This will give you an indication of what side of the circuit is not working.
Deposit  coin and coin accepted lights are partly regulated by the coin relay switch.
Post a photo of the 3 light sockets that aren’t working




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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #77 on: Today at 05:03:34 PM »
The wires opposite blue 20 are yellow/Brown 36 on coin accepted, red/black 18 on deposit coin & green/black 48 on winner paid. Jumping yellow to each of these lights the bulb. Jumping yellow to 18  lights both insert & accept. I have 6vac across the 1$ light but not the others. I have continuity from 36 & 18 to the coin relay switch. I can jump a yellow from anywhere in the machine to light the bulbs. Machine plays good & pays accurately. :thank_you:

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #78 on: Today at 05:29:59 PM »
there is also a circuit on the hopper - believe it is a green/white wire to a yellow that also controls the insert/accept/pay lights.

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Re: No diagrams for Bally 1096
« Reply #79 on: Today at 05:50:26 PM »
I got all the new bulbs put in. They all work. (Except the three)
Thanks, Doug.

 

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