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To coin or not to coin
« on: May 24, 2017, 11:16:30 AM »
Hey guys,

I'm considering paying the company selling me an S2000 to add a coin-in system, but I remembered that at least one other company (ohio river slots) "highly recommend(s) keeping them coinless"

What has been your experience with coin-op slots? Are they a lot of trouble to keep operational? If the coin-in breaks, does it cause serious problems for the entire machine?

Thanks,
FTH
« Last Edit: May 24, 2017, 11:37:00 AM by FiveTimesHey »

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #1 on: May 24, 2017, 11:29:09 AM »
All my machines are coin in only, no BV's. Over the last 5 years I've had no issues. I had way more issues with BV's and printers than I would ever expect from a coin mech. Most problems you read about with coin stuff isn't actually the coin works, but the IO cards thatcontrol, even on machines with no coin handling

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #2 on: May 24, 2017, 11:43:27 AM »
I was planning on using both BV & coin  :dancing_2:


Does this change anything?  :Scratch-Head:

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #3 on: May 24, 2017, 12:28:40 PM »
Not at all, was just pointing out that for me anyway, the coin handling is less problematic than the bill/ticket side of operating a machine

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #4 on: May 24, 2017, 12:44:49 PM »
Thanks for the help! Do you know how much weight a hopper, coin comparitor, etc. adds to a machine?

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #5 on: May 24, 2017, 01:27:10 PM »
Been running tickets and tokens for years now.  I set my machines to pay out 5$ worth of tokens and the rest in a ticket.  All machines accept tokens and tickets.


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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #6 on: May 24, 2017, 01:28:27 PM »
Thanks for the help! Do you know how much weight a hopper, coin comparitor, etc. adds to a machine?

Coin stuff - 24 pounds.

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #7 on: December 13, 2017, 12:06:34 AM »
part of the fun is putting the coins in, kids love it as well,in the sound of the change coming out of the hopper, then just a piece of paper  for your win, just my thought,just brings that old style of casino back, now its how many spins in a minute they can get you to spin, casinos try in speed it all up and less employees to pay.and pay a lot less then when they first opened,now you never see lights go off,casino niagara is a joke,

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #8 on: December 13, 2017, 09:12:29 AM »
Having coin in capability gives you options,  use real money or if you experience shrinkage, you could use tokens.  A typical S-2000 machine with bill unit and full coin in  runs around 599.00 for the machine, plus shipping.




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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #9 on: December 13, 2017, 09:48:58 AM »
Having coin in capability gives you options,  use real money or if you experience shrinkage, you could use tokens.  A typical S-2000 machine with bill unit and full coin in  runs around 599.00 for the machine, plus shipping.


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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #10 on: December 13, 2017, 03:30:36 PM »

I have 3 slots and a Video Poker - lots of lights, lighted bill stickers, individual progressives, linked progressives basically all the attractants.


What I have found is that if I load the machines up with credits or leave a big bucket of tokens beside the machines. People come by and put in 1/2 a doz  - pull the handle a couple of times and walk away.


I started rolling my tokens (I have 10,000+) - I had bought coin rollers from Net bank store and had my casino name imprinted on them (this is cheaper than getting tubes from Walmart btw)  - I did this because like above I wanted the casino theme and secondly with that many tokens it is just a lot more manageable.


I would hand out a Coin Cup and a roll - the coins would get played and 25 min later they were back shaking the bucket in front of me asking if I had any more tokens....WOW.


I think that this is a lesson in sociology - if there is no sense of loss (ie the roll is gone) then there is no sense of win.


In a home environment I would love to do TITO just for the current casino authenticity  (alas my S+'s are too old) but only use it as a pay out that someone could take home or move credits from machine to machine.




 
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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #11 on: December 14, 2017, 03:13:14 PM »
I'm not thinking the Coin-is-less-trouble aligns with my work experience with the 5 million ticket transactions a month. :nerd:

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #12 on: December 14, 2017, 05:39:37 PM »

I have 3 slots and a Video Poker - lots of lights, lighted bill stickers, individual progressives, linked progressives basically all the attractants.


What I have found is that if I load the machines up with credits or leave a big bucket of tokens beside the machines. People come by and put in 1/2 a doz  - pull the handle a couple of times and walk away.


I started rolling my tokens (I have 10,000+) - I had bought coin rollers from Net bank store and had my casino name imprinted on them (this is cheaper than getting tubes from Walmart btw)  - I did this because like above I wanted the casino theme and secondly with that many tokens it is just a lot more manageable.


I would hand out a Coin Cup and a roll - the coins would get played and 25 min later they were back shaking the bucket in front of me asking if I had any more tokens....WOW.


I think that this is a lesson in sociology - if there is no sense of loss (ie the roll is gone) then there is no sense of win.


In a home environment I would love to do TITO just for the current casino authenticity  (alas my S+'s are too old) but only use it as a pay out that someone could take home or move credits from machine to machine.

My wife loves to play slot machines. But will not play my slots. She says, "It's no fun winning my own money"  aah the gamblers mentality.
I have a couple of mine set up coin in coin out. Personally I love it. I'm thinking about setting up all mine that way. The slower play uses many less coins and is just as fun to me. Besides, it sounds like the old days in Las Vegas. FTH, I say go for it. I have an S2000 I'm going to change out also.

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #13 on: December 14, 2017, 05:58:12 PM »
i agree ,besides good exercise picking up the quarters that fall on the floor,and around the corners, ha ha ha ha .and you always have a few hundred dollars in the house,if somthing comes up, in you didnt make it to the bank ,ha ha, 

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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #14 on: December 14, 2017, 07:04:12 PM »
I have 8 machines with all the bling including TITO but they all have coin handling. I set my machines up like Jason to pay a small amount in coins ( $3 dollars) by doing this it exercises the hopper which keeps it from seizing up since most of the time I use tickets but it is great to have the ability to use coins and hear them clincking in the tray. Also no change laying around the house it's all in the machines they make good piggie banks. No mantainece what so ever on hoppers or comparators. I have failed two coin optics below the comparator but that's it.
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Re: To coin or not to coin
« Reply #15 on: January 10, 2018, 03:18:14 PM »
This is Chris.. slotdeals Im somehow logged into an old username.... we always recommend going coinless to all of our homeusers for a few reasons... You guys know the basics and more of a slot machine.... the average person buying a retail machine from me calls me 50% of the time and ask how does it turn on, open the door, etc.... so we try to make it as easy as possible and not as many options.... you have to understand the volume of machines we move retail and the phone calls get overbearing ( especially for April who handles the issues after the sale) which by the way she does all of our retail now and is on her own while using our facility/ inventory... also I sell container loads of coin handling to Africa/ South America and I'm trying my best to save coin handling for International use..... rather sell 80 machines to one person than 1 machine to 80..... so thats why we always suggest staying away .... I get it you guys like to hear the sound.... thats fine.... but we've just always recommended staying away....


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