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IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« on: February 26, 2014, 05:05:02 AM »
Originally posted 2/20/2008

I took some pictures of the Treasure Chest Bonus game on my last Vegas trip -- the concept is the same as "Jackpot Poker" for the second-screen four-of-a-kind bonus, just different graphics.

These machines are found in the Boyd casinos in Downtown Las Vegas (Main Street Station, Fremont, and the California), and are bill/coin-in, coin-out.











Sadly, this wasn't hit by me, but I did find this picture of a $0.25 Treasure Chest jackpot:

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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2014, 05:10:00 AM »
Originally posted by uniman on 2/25/2013:

Played this game last weekend at Main Street. Hit the 140 coin win on my one and only quad.
Wonder who made this game for Boyd Gaming?
Also wonder if award is predetermined and selection is irrelevant, or if each chest has a different award? The game doesn't show you the unchosen chest's awards, suspect award is predetermined.


And wonder if there is PAR sheet out there for Treasure Chest?

Basically an 8/5 Jacks or Better with bonuses on four-of-a-kinds.

A great change of pace for VP players. Also like Aces/no Faces too!

Great pics Knagl.



Originally posted by knagl on 2/26/2013:

I suspect that treasure chest was a custom build by IGT, but I can't confirm it.

I suspect that the outcome is predetermined for the quad bonus. I have Jackpot Poker by IGT (similar concept), and the math on that game dictates that the bonus awards are not weighted evenly.

I'd love to get my hands on Treasure Chest and also the Pay The Aces (No Faces) game you mentioned as well.


Forgot to ask, did you ask for your scratch off card at MSS for your quad? That would have been worth a minimum of $2 extra.



Originally posted by uniman on 2/26/2013:

There is no manufacture listed on the glass, next time I'll ask and see if anyone has an answer.


Saw a sticker on the machine stating something like, No bonus cards available for this machine and $3 played equals one slot point on this machine. So no, did not ask for the scratch off.
Hit a deuce quad on the Aces/no faces and hit the 250 coin three ace bonus. Didn't ask about the scratch off then either.  Duh!
Do plan on going back. They have a lot of coin-in poker machines.



Originally posted by knagl on 2/26/2013:

I knew that the Treasure Chest Poker games were $3/point for the slot club, but that's news to me if they're excluded from the Score With 4 (scratch card) promo.  If/when you go back, could you double check the sign on there for me?  The last time I was there (which now was about a year ago) they still gave them out on those machines.

Also, if you happen to hit a Straight Flush or a Royal Flush, those two hands are also eligible for the scratch cards, FYI.



Originally posted by uniman on 2/28/2013:

Yep, your right! Went back last night and the sign says "No Bonus Play on this machine". Meaning no free play. Don't know why I thought it said cards??
And of course last night I hit no quads.   That's the way my luck goes.



Originally posted by uniman on 5/18/2013:

Took the motorhome to Vegas last weekend and stayed at The Main Street Casino RV Park. The park is a paved parking lot just north of I-95 on Main Street. Cost was a very cheap $16 bucks a night with full hookups. Nothing to brag about, you can hear highway noise and the area of town is not the best at all. But security was present, the park gated, and it was actually very nice. This way we can take our two dogs with us and spend the night!
It was a good time!

A slot tech at Main Street told me he thought (don't quote me, he said) the Treasure Chest Bonus Poker was acquired by Boyd Gaming after they bought the Treasure Chest Casino in Louisiana. Hmmm, I'm not so sure.
A check online of the Treasure Chest Casino revealed no Treasure Chest video poker at that casino. Still quite a coincidence.
They still give out the scratchoff cards for 4 of a kinds and some slot wins. When playing quarter poker the cards have a minimum $2 win, up to $5000. All mine were $2. The nickle video poker scratchoffs are minimum $1.
Played the Aces no Faces and hit four Queens on the draw. Later playing nickles I hit four aces with a deuce on the draw playing Super Aces for $100.00. Wish that hit would have come on the quarter Aces no Faces!!



Originally posted by uniman on 12/6/2013:

Went shopping in Vegas today and decided to stop by Fremont Street. My wife put a $20 in a Treasure Chest poker machine and began hitting straights, full houses and flushes. Then she hit a 4K on the draw and won 140 credits.
A few hands later she again got a 4K on the draw and hit this..... :244-


Never thought I would see one of these!

Interesting that it was the first chest just like Knagl's pic. Hmmm, think I'll be picking the first chest from now on.
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #2 on: February 26, 2014, 05:11:25 AM »
Originally posted by uniman on 10/8/2013:

Sweet! Great hit!

...now can you get your wife to sweet-talk a tech there into a copy of the software so we can play this at home? :)

I was thinking the same thing!  



Originally posted by knagl on 10/9/2013:

...and I'm with you -- I'm picking the first chest from now on, too!  I've always wondered if it makes a difference.

I do know for certain that the $1,199 isn't always in the mix.  I just don't know if all five buttons will reveal the same result, or if there is a difference in which one you pick.
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #3 on: May 21, 2014, 04:00:11 PM »
I just happened to come across this image (not from me) that shows an $1199 Treasure Chest win using the right button, so it's possible to win there, too!  :)
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #4 on: May 21, 2014, 10:14:36 PM »
I want I want I want......
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #5 on: May 26, 2014, 12:39:54 PM »
This game has been found and put into MAME.  Unfortunately, we are missing the CG roms and therefore the bonus round and attract screen do not render properly.

The game number is PP0816, a non-superboard type game.

I have started recreating the graphics for my own amusement based on screenshots on the web.  An example of my work is below:


So far I have only recreated the image of the chest when it is closed, and the skinny numbers used to display the bonus value picked.
There are 8 more frames of animation of the chest opening that need to be created.  The pink area you see is a placeholder for the
casino's logo such as "Sam Boyd's".

If anyone has some good pictures (or info on the real CG names), please let me know.

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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #6 on: May 26, 2014, 01:16:58 PM »
Do we know what CG chip numbers are needed ?
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #7 on: May 26, 2014, 01:41:14 PM »
Do we know what CG chip numbers are needed ?

Unfortunately, no.

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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #8 on: May 26, 2014, 01:51:51 PM »
Stolistic, that's amazing progress in a very short amount of time!
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2014, 01:20:35 PM »
I added an image for an open chest.  I still need to create all the frames in between the open and closed.



While testing I at first thought the chest bonus value was pre-determined.  But now can say for certain that the chest you pick determines the payout.
So that's kind of interesting to know.  This particular version has a top prize of 5000 (not $1199).

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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #10 on: May 27, 2014, 04:35:54 PM »
Stolistic,
That's amazing work.  :yes: :hail: :yes:
I wish I knew more about MAME.... You the man!
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #11 on: May 27, 2014, 04:45:44 PM »
While testing I at first thought the chest bonus value was pre-determined.  But now can say for certain that the chest you pick determines the payout.
So that's kind of interesting to know.  This particular version has a top prize of 5000 (not $1199).

Great progress!!  Looks amazing, Stolistic.

Are you able to see which values are available when selecting a chest?  Based on the math of the paytable that we can see, there's no way that the top award (whether it's 5,000 or 4,796 coins) is always in the mix.  If there was a legitimate 20% chance of getting that top award on every quad, the game would be a big loser for the house...
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #12 on: May 27, 2014, 07:56:20 PM »
OK here is the exact information on the chests:

1. When you pick a chest it records the chest number for animation purposes only.  The chest DOES NOT determine the payout.
2. It then proceeds to call a random number generator for a number between 0 and 399 (400 possibilities)
3. This number is then looked up in a table to determine the payout.  The lookup table could be different per game version if needed.

Payouts for this Game:
0: Pays 5000 (Jackpot)
1 thru 12: Pays 500
13 thru 28: Pays 250
29 thru 88: Pays 180
89 thru 399: Pays 140



If you happen to get the jackpot a special "jackpot" graphic is displayed in the cloud above the chest (mine is missing).  The game then goes nuts cycling the background color of the screen through the color palette and plays several different jackpot songs over and over.

Unrelated, I recreated the Sam Boyd's logo too.  :Tongue_Out:

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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #13 on: May 27, 2014, 10:01:07 PM »
So, a 1 in 400 shot at the top award (at least on this ROM).  That makes a lot more sense.

I'm actually pretty sure that this information has never been available before.  With this info, we could calculate the exact percentage payout, including the bonus.  K+ to you again.
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2014, 01:40:45 PM »
Many IGT poker games have the payout percentages listed inside the game rom.  This one reports as 98.4%. Of note: The payable (except for the Jackpot) matches P11A (poker programs PP0449 or PP0221) which has an optimum payout of 96.1% so the Jackpot ups that by 2.3% if that's what you're looking for.

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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #15 on: May 28, 2014, 04:54:00 PM »
Another way to display the numbers Stolistic posted for the chest values is:

Award  ---  Odds

5,000 = 1 in 400 (0.25%)
500   = 12 in 400 (3%)
250   = 16 in 400 (4%)
180   = 60 in 400 (15%)
140   = 311 in 400  (77.75%)

Based on the numbers Stolistic posted above, the average quad is worth 173.35 coins.  Putting that figure into the VP calculator on the Wizard of Odds website, I come out with 98.4320%, which matches with the 98.4% figure you mentioned.



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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #16 on: August 26, 2014, 07:05:24 PM »
Wow, that's was great work! I'll start watching the Main Street's dumpsters for those actual game chips!  :rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

This game is fun to play and my money seems to last longer. Especially when I get hits like this one at The Fremont last Sunday!!
Also received a free Jackpot Tee-Shirt.

I have seen the jackpot $1199 on a different chest other than the first one too. Usually I get the 140 credit win. Never had the 500 yet either.

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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #17 on: August 26, 2014, 07:50:04 PM »
Sweet Royal there, Uniman!

I've gotten the 500 before.  In fact, the only one I've never hit is the $1,199.
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #18 on: September 04, 2014, 06:53:03 PM »
I just got back from the Cal Club and hit a 4 of a kind, drum roll..... i picked 140 coin chest :hissyfit:
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Re: IGT PE+ "Treasure Chest Bonus" Poker from Boyd casinos
« Reply #19 on: September 04, 2014, 08:48:38 PM »
That appears to be the norm. Heading back this weekend to give some back as I feel guilty taking that $1000.  :rotfl: :rotfl:
Maybe this time I'll hit the 500 or even the $1199.

 

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