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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT PE and PE Plus Poker Games => Topic started by: Johnnyboy321 on May 19, 2017, 03:14:30 PM
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Hey thanks for taking the time to read this every time I use/test my hopper a house breaker flips or the 6 amp fuse blows anyone might know what's causing this it only happens when the hopper is setup or the hopper is being tested ugh I need help anything at all I'm also getting a coin in time out error also any help with that? Once more thanks for looking
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The problem has to be with your hopper motor. The Solid State Relay (SSR) that turns on the hopper motor has two triacs in series inside of it to prevent it from shorting.
BUT, if your hopper has a small coin jammed in it somewhere - that can stall the motor and cause the fuse to blow.
Try this.
Take the hopper out and under the motor is the motor break. It pulls in when the hopper gets voltage and allows the hopper to spin. Then when voltage is removed
the break pops out to stop the motor from coasting and spitting out a extra coin.
Hold that break in and try to spin the motor by grabbing the rubber agitator in the center of the motor pin wheel and spinning it.
If it doesn't budge you may want to remove the hopper bowl (black plastic) then the coin knife and see if a stray coin drops out.
When you put it back together make sure the knife is seated on the shelf wheel ( the ledge the coins ride up on to exit the hopper.
The only other thing it could be is a frozen hopper break. If it is stuck in the STOP position and wont budge try some light oil to free it up.
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Ok I'm going to try that tonight but I'm also getting a coin in time out any idea what could be causing that could the problems be linked?
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Ok just tested it it's even worse now it blows on power up before it would blow when I went into hopper test or cashed out
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See if there is a coin wedged behind the hopper plug.
Also, remove the computer board and power up with the hopper in and see if the fuse blows.
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Hey thanks for taking the time to read this every time I use/test my hopper a house breaker flips or the 6 amp fuse blows anyone might know what's causing this it only happens when the hopper is setup or the hopper is being tested ugh I need help anything at all I'm also getting a coin in time out error also any help with that? Once more thanks for looking
If a 6 amp fuse is throwing a house breaker, you have a seriously overloaded circuit that the machine is hooked up to, a very weak breaker, or the fuse is much bigger than a 6 amp. That being said, there is still trouble with something in the hopper or something in that line. Minimum household breakers are 15 amp for 120 volts. A 6 amp should never throw a house breaker. It sounds like more than one thing going on here.
Dave
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Wow that's a lot of info and Dave it's tripping the gcfi outlets or whatever outlet type it is and ya sometimes the gcfi will blow sometimes the 6 amp also some info about the house and the machine is the machine is in a garage with a freezer plugged in to the same outlets the fuse on the machine was 20 years old along with the house also 20 years old and I'm about to check the hopper
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Dave also this machine is a frankinstine machine it's made of mostly 2 machines and some parts I've found so it has a lot more then you think to it ok post some pics but like I said I'm new how do I post pics
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When you say Frankensteined,are you sure hopper is 120 volt, NOT a 24 volt S2000, sit-down hopper,
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Dave also this machine is a frankinstine machine it's made of mostly 2 machines and some parts I've found so it has a lot more then you think to it ok post some pics but like I said I'm new how do I post pics
Absolutely, post pics. At the bottom of the reply, click the attachments and other options. Click the browse and attach your pics. I didn't mean to scare you, but things like that get an electricians attention. Now with a GFCI (ground fault current interruptor) receptacle ANY ground fault will cause a trip. Life probably isn't that dire, but you understand my concern. Now I understand better. I like the others think there is a problem with the hopper, likely a short or a trouble that the others have offered. Thanks for the clarification. Sorry if I worried you.
Dave
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I have been shocked and I'm not afraid of electronic current also I'm 13 just so y'all know my grand father tough me everything I know this is he 4 time trying to post this so I have to post the pics separate
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Water Damage!!
The hopper break could be rusted shut but it could be the entire motor is shorted internally.
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I guess I can't tell for sure, but that doesn't look like the correct hopper for an IGT PE+ machine. Can you post another picture or two of the hopper, at least one a little wider showing the whole thing? Thanks.
If that is a PE+ hopper, I'd agree with Badbaud -- it looks like there was significant water damage -- the hopper motor might be toast.
On the plus side, on your MPU board you have a wingboard -- those are pretty rare.
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Badbuad it is the hole machine was at one point and the only reason I'm keeping it is because it's from Las Vegas from a bar that sold them i have a second hopper I'll have to change the motor out also it spins when you lift the hopper brake so and knaglim not sure if it's a igt pe or pe plus and like i said from a bar it also sat at someone's house for years on end in the rain (freaking [size=78%]idiot) and he sold it to me here ok add more pics[/size]
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PE (non-plus) machines never had bill validators, and the MPU board you posted is a PE+ MPU with a wingboard. You have a PE+ machine.
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I pulled a harness from a 2000 or something different that went to the hopper and coin acceptor could that be why anyone have one they can sell me?
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When you get everything working you can remove that wing board and drop in some multi poker chips and have a game with 5 game options for play.
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Good to know but like I said I pulled the harness from a machine from I think 1998 or 2000 and this machine is from 95 I'll add pics of both
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The machine that is being built
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The machine I took all the parts from ( hopper/coin mech harness) and everything else
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When you get everything working you can remove that wing board and drop in some multi poker chips and have a game with 5 game options for play.
...or you could keep the wingboard and have five games of your choosing to play -- that's the whole point of the wingboard. :yes: