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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => Bally Alpha (Cinevision), and ALL Bally "V___" series - V5000, V2000, V1000, etc. => Topic started by: hotshot on June 02, 2020, 06:46:50 PM

Title: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 02, 2020, 06:46:50 PM
Trying to get the printer working on my Alpha M9000.  The printer is labeled "Epic 950".  I chose the Ithaca 950 in the device setup.  After setup I get an error message that says "Printer Com Lost During Print".  The ready light on the printer is on and it has paper.  What am I missing?
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 02, 2020, 08:55:30 PM
You may have the wrong firmware type on the printer or the printer is bad.  Has the printer ever worked before?
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 03, 2020, 03:30:16 AM
Printer has never worked in this machine at least since I've owned it.  Same problem in my other Alpha which has an Ithaca 850.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 03, 2020, 12:18:46 PM
You might have bad printers then.  I usually replace mine with future logic ones, I always seem to have bad luck with the ithaca printers for whatever reason.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 03, 2020, 01:06:30 PM
Thank you rick for guidance.  Is there a specific model I should be looking for?  And do you know of a good source where I can find one (actually two)?
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 03, 2020, 02:34:44 PM
You can either get then Gen2's or Gen2 Universal.  Just make sure when you buy them, that they have bally firmware.  If the seller can't tell if they do or not, they can print a test print and it will say what firmware is on the printer.  You also need to make sure it has the correct harness.  The Serial harness that you need had a molex connector with 14 pins on it.  If it has 8 pins on it, it won't work for you since that is IGT Netplex.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 03, 2020, 03:02:58 PM
Thanks again rick, I'll see what I can find and let you know how it works out.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 03, 2020, 03:21:41 PM
also make sure you get the bezel, I don't think the bezel for the ithaca is the same as the the future logic ones.  I believe the connector to the bezel light is different.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 05, 2020, 09:34:43 AM
If I can locate a gen2, which printer do I choose in my setup?  I think the only options I have are Ithaca 750, 850, 950, and maybe one other model.  I don't recall seeing a futurelogic gen2 option.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 05, 2020, 09:39:53 AM
Future logic is an option, you use that for any of their printers GEN1, GEN2, GEN2 universal, etc.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 10, 2020, 05:57:33 PM

Received Futurelogic printers today.  After setup I get a Voucher Printer Com Error.  After I select the Futurelogic in the device setup, a config option appears for 2C barcode.  I've tried enabling it and just leaving it not set.  Both ways come up with the same error.


Is there a way I can check the firmware?
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 10, 2020, 06:13:49 PM
Push the feed button and hold it down while powering up, it will print a test sheet that will display the firmware and other information.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 10, 2020, 06:21:51 PM

Ok, see if this makes sense.
Model: PSA-66-001N
Firmware: GNUSA7570  TKT-2.3
Interface: serial
Baud Rate: 19200
Data Bits: 8
Parity: None
Handshaking: XON/XOFF+HARDWARE
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 10, 2020, 10:41:05 PM
It has WMS software, that's why you are getting the error.  You need firmware that starts with GRUxxxx
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: tjlee on June 11, 2020, 04:20:24 AM
This may help you out with your GEN2 printers.  You will need a computer with a COM port on it.  Also the correct DIP settings and firmware for the Alpha.  Please PM me with your questions. Ted
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 18, 2020, 07:23:54 PM

Tried 2 different futurelogic printers today.  One has GRUSA5012 firmware, the other is GRUSA5911.


On one machine, if I do not enable 2D barcode during setup, it will print a voucher, but I cannot reinsert that voucher in the bill validator.  It just keeps pushing it back out.
If I enable 2D barcode, I get a Printer Config Error.


On my other machine, if I enable 2D barcode during setup I get a Voucher Printer Com Error.


Suggestions?



Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: sixcardmark on June 18, 2020, 08:19:19 PM
You do not need to enable 2D barcode even with a TITO board installed.  It will not accept a ticket without a TITO board installed.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 19, 2020, 07:06:50 AM
Thank you sixcardmark for the reply.  So if I want to print a ticket on these Alpha's and be able to re-insert it, I need a TITO board?  Can you advise me more on exactly what I need and how to install?
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: sixcardmark on June 19, 2020, 07:26:48 AM
Thank you sixcardmark for the reply.  So if I want to print a ticket on these Alpha's and be able to re-insert it, I need a TITO board?  Can you advise me more on exactly what I need and how to install?
Yes that is correct.  Here is a video link to Tito info/instructions: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBYCJSUZR9k (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBYCJSUZR9k)

Hope this helps,
Mark
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 19, 2020, 08:28:17 AM

My IGT S2000 will print and receive tickets.  I don't believe it has any technology other than just the printer.


What does a TITO board look like and where does it go?  And where can I get one (actually two)?
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 19, 2020, 08:43:32 AM
The machine will not accept tickets unless there's a tito board attached.  The tito boards look different since there are various vendors that sell them.  If you look inside your s2000 in WAP box (the one where the ribbon cable plugs into towards the back of the machine) there should be a flat 5 pin molex connector with 3 wires that leads to the TITO board.  Without a Tito board, the machine has no way to validate the ticket.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 19, 2020, 10:51:14 AM
I see what you are talking about on the S2000.  There is a small circuit board with wiring going to the WPA box and a power supply cable going to 120V.   Where would this connect on an Alpha M9000?
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 19, 2020, 11:23:49 AM
Usually goes on the connector with the red square.  Even though the connector is the same, the pinout is different, so you can't just unplug from your s2000 to your alpha, you need to modify the cable for it to work.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: sixcardmark on June 19, 2020, 12:27:28 PM
Top is S2000, bottom is Alpha:
(modify at your own risk)
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: hotshot on June 22, 2020, 05:26:31 PM

Printers are working!  Had to flip a dip switch on one which apparently controls the baud rate.  New TITO boards from Bettor Slots arrived today and are working perfectly!  I can print a ticket and put it back in any of my 3 machines.  Life is good!


Thanks for all your help!


Now if I could just change the jurisdiction limit so it doesn't force a hand payout when I hit the big jackpots.

Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: rickhunter on June 22, 2020, 06:51:43 PM
There's a bally sjur that allows for unlimited Jackpot limit.
Title: Re: Alpha printer problem
Post by: sixcardmark on June 22, 2020, 06:56:11 PM

Printers are working!  Had to flip a dip switch on one which apparently controls the baud rate.  New TITO boards from Bettor Slots arrived today and are working perfectly!  I can print a ticket and put it back in any of my 3 machines.  Life is good!


Thanks for all your help!


Now if I could just change the jurisdiction limit so it doesn't force a hand payout when I hit the big jackpots.
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