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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S2000 and Vision Games => Topic started by: Pinaddicted on September 25, 2023, 11:29:56 AM
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I received the slot with a SS6993 chip installed in the spot that is normally empty, it does nothing with that chip installed, not even a message screen. After removing the SS chip this is where I am....
Call Attendant
Alarm when door opened
Turn key once... get this code.... SS EPROM INVALID -0xF011
Twice... critical data could be lost
Three times... press test button 2-3 seconds
Close door
Initializing
Please wait testing memory
Then back to Call Attendant. I have no idea what that SS EPROM INVALID code is.
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In order to use an SS reel chip on an S2000, you must occupy the U21 socket with an SB001000 chip.
Also, the S+ reel prom chip (SS6993) must be inserted into the U17 socket with the notch on the chip body AWAY from the U17 etching on the MPU circuit board.
Click on photo below to enlarge if needed...>>>
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I have another person that said the same thing, it was installed at the other end of the socket when I received the slot.
He also mentioned that it could be blown because it was installed wrong, and a 27c64 chip (which it is) may not be fast enough also.
Does that chip stay on the board all the time? All the pictures I've seen of these boards, that socket is empty.
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First of all, you did NOT confirm if you have the SB001000 chip installed or not.
You have a 92% Triple Diamond 5 Line game.
It needs to stay in if that's what the award glass and reel strips are...
You can change the game if you want, or get a new, faster chip for the game - if you think it's burned out.
To change the game, you'd have to change the chips, the reel strips, the top box award glass, and the belly door glass.
Sometimes even the reel glass and other display components.
These S2000 slot machines have pretty much the same cabinets, just different games and stuff in them.
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I'm learning slowly how these work. Yes, I do have the SB001000 chip installed, and I ordered a new faster SS chip. We'll see if that solves the issues mentioned above. I should have the new chip in a couple days.
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Ok, I received the faster SS6992 chip today and after installation it has a new EPROM DEVICE ERROR -0x4. Would it be a good idea to do a reset and start from scratch?
Can I use the clear and key chips (IVC00224 and key00045) that had never been used by the previous owner to reset this machine, or do I need different ones? This machine is coinless, with a ticket printer, and multidenominational. Is it ok to leave the SS chip in during the clear/key process? Do I even need to do a reset?
Mark
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With the door open, just turn the jackpot reset key 4 times and then hold in the white test button for 5 seconds and close the door. Wait for the reels to spin.
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That process gets me the previously mentioned error code. Turning the key once gets me to accounting and won't go further no matter how many times I turn the key. The only way to get to the push test button 2 to 3 seconds screen is to remove/replace the battery and turn on the machine. If I back out of the accounting screen it says...
Call Attendant
Closure M
Machine type mismatch
This is what is making me think it needs to be reset.
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Time to key chip.
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Machine type mismatch is simple to correct. Key the machine, then go into the key chip config menu 7.1 and look for "MACHINE TYPE". If this is an upright machine, select UPRIGHT. Sometimes the wrong machine type is selected when you do a battery change.
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Are Clear chip IVC00224 and Key00045 the correct ones to use? The previous owner also gave me these three chips.... IGT S+ Ram Clear, IGT S+ BV ON/OFF, and IGT S+ SP 731
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What SG chips are you running?
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SG000363
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You need Key 00031. Clearing is seldom necessary. I would try just keying it first.
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I'll try more tomorrow, I used the Key 45 and got into config but navigation was confusing. Somehow, I changed it to 1 credit = $5000 then accidentally exited the menu. Looks like I'll have to start the process again, marking the buttons might make navigation a little easier for this newbie... lol
Why the different numbered Key chips, do they all have different base programs and all you're doing is setting preferences?
Thanks for your help!!!!
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You need Key 00031. Clearing is seldom necessary. I would try just keying it first.
You do not need Key 31. It was replaced by Key 45. 45 will do any S2000 except those with a R board.
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Thanks for the clarification on key chip 45
This game has a multi denomination badge and button, I understand that this is more difficult to set up. I assume that there are ways to change the display in the reel glass to 25 cents, but what about the button? Is it really that difficult to set up multi denomination?
I found a decent YouTube video on keying a game for 25 cents, but nothing on multi denomination. The guy is pretty fast and a little difficult to follow but if I mark the buttons I could probably get through it.
Any suggestions on some good video/printed instructions for keying a machine?
Thanks again for everyone's help!!!
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You need Key 00031. Clearing is seldom necessary. I would try just keying it first.
You do not need Key 31. It was replaced by Key 45. 45 will do any S2000 except those with a R board.
Can you explain what an R board is? Mine has an extra board that is elevated on the left side that says MULTIMEDIA LITE and PN 76924401 it also has a gray and blue capacitor mounted to it.
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You don't have an R Board. However pictures of your board/machine go a long way in helping.
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I finally got it going/configured with help from a YouTube video, one that didn't race through the process. Now that I've successfully done it, it'll be easier next time.
Is there a reason why the BV accepts the new style $50 bill but rejects the new style $100 bill, Is this a setting also?
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It's not a setting, assuming it accepts old 100s.
The "new' 50 came out over 25 years ago.
The "new" 100, 10 years ago.
The firmware in your validator is somewhere between those dates.
You would need a firmware update for the bill validator to accept the new 100s. I'm also not sure how to update it (nor do I know if we can) as it has never been an issue I've come across.
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This slot was working fine for a couple days, now I have a couple new error codes...
EEPROM Error
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EEPROM DEVICE ERROR -0x4
Before I got it working, I believe someone mentioned that I might need a new SB001000 stepper base chip??? Are these known to work sometimes and not other times? If this is the problem do I just replace the chip, or will it need keyed again also?
Thanks!!!
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Some more strange things...
I have a 1952-0 board, I assume this is what you call a 520 board?
When I use my IVC00224 clear chip in the machine, the top light is solid and the second light is flashing. What does that mean when they both aren't solid?
Thanks, Mark
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No such thing.
You either have a 502 or a 504 MPU.
Did you NOT read Reply #18? :Scratch-Head:
They suggested that you post some pictures.
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Here's my board...
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SS Chip is installed wrong.
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I've changed that SS chip to a SS6992 since that pic was taken, the new one is installed correctly, everything else is the same.
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The SB chip isn't fully seated.
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This slot was working fine for a couple days, now I have a couple new error codes...
EEPROM Error
and
EEPROM DEVICE ERROR -0x4
You may need to change the 8-pin chip (16k, Serial, 24C16) on the backplane board, as it would be positioned in an upright cabinet.
IGT calls the backplane a "motherboard".
That circuit board IS etched with the word "MOTHERBOARD" in white lettering, it's same thing really.
Anyways, when that memory chip has problems, that error shows up on the VFD display.
Slide out the MPU, take a clear photo of the backplane board the MPU slides onto, and I can show you the location of the chip that needs to be replaced.
I'll take a look :sherlock: for some backplane drawings and see if I can post it for ya.
***UPDATE***
Okay...I found an old picture I took of a 960 backplane board.
You can clearly see I've pointed out the EEPROM chip in the socket at location [U2] with a green circle.
It's orientation in the socket is upwards, as noted by the indentation on the device body.
Click on the photo I posted below to enlarge, if needed...>>>
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Thanks for the response, I located that chip on my backplane board. Looks like the board will have to be removed to be able to get to that chip. :(
I have an unused 8 pin chip along with 3 others mentioned earlier that came with the slot from the previous owner, maybe that's the correct one. I'll have to check the numbers on it.
Update.... looks like the unused chip I have is a 24C04N
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The backplane board doesn't need to be removed to take that small 8-pin chip out of the socket.
Slide out the MPU, use a simple, small bent screwdriver to pry it out patly at both ends, little by little, then reach in and pull out the chip with your fingertips. :cool_thumb_up:
Take your time.
This is a hobby...not a job. :yes:
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OK, my replacement 24C16 and SB001000 chips should arrive in the mail today. Is there anything else I need to do before/after I install these two chips?
Thanks
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Take your time...make sure all the chip pins are their sockets in the correct direction.
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This slot was working fine for a couple days, now I have a couple new error codes...
EEPROM Error
and
EEPROM DEVICE ERROR -0x4
You may need to change the 8-pin chip (16k, Serial, 24C16) on the backplane board, as it would be positioned in an upright cabinet.
IGT calls the backplane a "motherboard".
That circuit board IS etched with the word "MOTHERBOARD" in white lettering, it's same thing really.
Anyways, when that memory chip has problems, that error shows up on the VFD display.
Slide out the MPU, take a clear photo of the backplane board the MPU slides onto, and I can show you the location of the chip that needs to be replaced.
I'll take a look :sherlock: for some backplane drawings and see if I can post it for ya.
***UPDATE***
Okay...I found an old picture I took of a 960 backplane board.
You can clearly see I've pointed out the EEPROM chip in the socket at location [U2] with a green circle.
It's orientation in the socket is upwards, as noted by the indentation on the device body.
Click on the photo I posted below to enlarge, if needed...>>>
Be careful, they can be orientated the other way too depending on the board PN/Rev. Look at the artwork on the board and install it accordingly.
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Thanks for the heads up, I installed the 24C16 correctly. (a little tight but I got it in) Working on the clear/key process now, I'll post the results when I'm finished.
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Geat photo Tilt! :yes:
I learned something new today on those sockets. :cool_thumb_up:
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Ok, I had it going and then screwed something up adjusting the game volume... did a total reset/key again and now the bill validator does not work. Guessing I didn't set it to coinless in the settings?
Questions...
If I redo the key process without doing a clear, does it save all the previous settings and all I need to do is enable the coinless setting? ... or do I need to set everything again?
Thanks, Mark
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That's correct. If you don't clear it the only thing that will get changed is whatever settings you change using the keychip. Coinless mode disables the hopper and the coin comparitor. Try doing a netplex autoconfig, that may be all it needs.
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How do I do a netplex autoconfig, doesn't it do that during boot up or am I thinking of something else?
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Are Clear chip IVC00224 and Key00045 the correct ones to use? The previous owner also gave me these three chips.... IGT S+ Ram Clear, IGT S+ BV ON/OFF, and IGT S+ SP 731
Yes they are 224 and 45 are backwards compatible with all previous clear and key chip.
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How do I do a netplex autoconfig, doesn't it do that during boot up or am I thinking of something else?
Yes, it says that on bootup, but for reasons I can't explain it doesn't always work. You can run it without keying the machine. Press the MPU self test button. Navigate to the 4. I/O Tests, then 4.3 and hit "enter" a couple of times. It will say Netplex autoconfig in progress. When backing back out also check the make sure the validator is enabled (should be by default) in menu 3.3 but if it's not enable it.
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How do I do a netplex autoconfig, doesn't it do that during boot up or am I thinking of something else?
Yes, it says that on bootup, but for reasons I can't explain it doesn't always work. You can run it without keying the machine. Press the MPU self test button. Navigate to the 4. I/O Tests, then 4.3 and hit "enter" a couple of times. It will say Netplex autoconfig in progress. When backing back out also check the make sure the validator is enabled (should be by default) in menu 3.3 but if it's not enable it.
Thank you for the steps needed to check that. It'll likely be tomorrow when I am able to work on it again, update to come.
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Update....
I turned on the machine this morning after sitting all night and everything worked fine, it accepted cash just like it should.... until I pulled the bill stacker to add more credits. I re-inserted the bill stacker and the BV did not work. (yes, it's fully seated)
Here's what I think the issue is.... The power plug on the BV isn't making a reliable connection, and when the bill stacker is re-installed, it disrupts that sketchy connection and the BV does not work. I can reach behind the BV (when installed) and wiggle the plug on the cabinet side and it works.
What is the best way to clean/tighten the pins on that plug? I was thinking high pressure air first, then alcohol on a Q-Tip. Am I on the right track here, and is this a somewhat common problem on these machines?
Thanks, Mark
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What make/model bill validator do you have installed?
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It says...
WBA-12-SS
US-501-24
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Ok. You can remove the transport from the housing and see the connector on the rear. It's held in place by two small screws and is a floating type of connector so it's normal for it to move around some. Check the wires in the back of the validator housing as well. There's usually not anything back there to damage them, but it's still worth a look.
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Ok. You can remove the transport from the housing and see the connector on the rear. It's held in place by two small screws and is a floating type of connector so it's normal for it to move around some. Check the wires in the back of the validator housing as well. There's usually not anything back there to damage them, but it's still worth a look.
If I could get my wife off of the machine long enough to check, I might find a resolution to the problem!!! :yes: :hissyfit:
I think it's an issue with that connection, just have to check it out. Other than that issue it works well.
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Well I don't really have any good advice for solving that problem :24:
Ok, let us know if you find anything out of place with it. I really haven't ever had a problem with one of those connectors, so I'll be a bit surprised it that's your issue. But then again, there's a first time for everything as they say.
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I also saw the switch located in the back/center of the bill stacker housing, it had zero wires connected to it. I assume that notified the casino when the bill stacker was removed/replaced?
Back to the EEPROM error codes, they were eliminated after the new stepper base, and 8 pin memory chip were installed. I'm not sure which one was faulty, but that issue is resolved.
I'll post an update on the BV connector after I check it out.
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Yep, the switch on the back was connected to the player tracking system and would send a signal that the cash can has been removed from the machine.
I'd bet my money on the EEPROM being what fixed it, but as long as it's working that's all that matter now. You could always put the original base chip back in and find out, but I'd save that for another time.
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Well I don't really have any good advice for solving that problem :24:
Ok, let us know if you find anything out of place with it. I really haven't ever had a problem with one of those connectors, so I'll be a bit surprised it that's your issue. But then again, there's a first time for everything as they say.
I see what you mean about the BV connector, that is a solid connection with the BV installed, and was eliminated as the problem. Further investigation between the cash can and BV, (BV removed, cash can installed) revealed two plastic fingers that stick up in the back of the BV slot. It appears that there are two optical switches on the bottom of the BV that detect those two fingers and ensure that they are fully extended. The cash can was a bit stubborn to install, so I put a small amount of Super Lube lithium grease on the cash can pins, guides, and locking mechanism. Now the cash can slides and locks in place easily, and the fingers extend fully into the optical switches on the BV. I've removed/installed the cash can several times now, and the BV always activates as it should. It wasn't doing that
consistently before, it's amazing what a little lubrication can do. I believe this issue is resolved!!!
Thanks again to everyone who helped me bring this slot back to life. :thank_you:
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That's good news! Glad you got it and everything working properly again :applause: Yes, sometimes a little lube goes a long ways!
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I've got a question about maximum credits allowed. It appears that 4000 credits is the max on this machine, anything over that and it prints a voucher. Browsing thru the accounting/limits settings I noticed that amount can't be adjusted even though the machine has a 5-digit readout. I believe it said "field set" on that particular limit setting. My Bally machine just has a 4 digit readout and it has been up to 7000+ credits, and I assume it would go as high as 9999. Is there a way to override the field set settings on this machine?
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Yes, you should be able to set the credit limit up to $100,000.00. The Bill Validator limit is normally only $3,000.00 after that it disables itself. If you want to change the limits you'll have to do it with no credits on the machine.
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That may have been the issue, I most likely tried to change that setting with credits on the machine. It's not a big deal but I'd rather let the credits build vs. vouchers being printed for anything over 4000. My BV stops taking cash at 4000 credits also.
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Another small issue is that the bill slot on the front of the machine lights up intermittently, mostly off, it takes cash just fine. I realize that the light is supposed to go out when the reels spin. The light bulbs and sockets are good, they both work if installed in another location. Any ideas what the issue might be?
Thanks
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They will go out when the validator reaches it's credit limit too, but it won't accept a bill in that condition either. Check the connector on the light board and in the back of the validator.
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The connection appears to be good on the light board. I assume the connection in the back of the validator is part of the multi pin plug that powers the BV, or is it separate? This is hard to troubleshoot because the light goes out when the door is open.
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Yes, off the back side of the validator you'll find a two wire connector with a black and white wire. Those go to the bezel lights. Make sure that connector is seated properly too.
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I found a separate connector with black and red wires, but none with black and white. My Bally machine has a WBA-12-SS BV also, can I swap them to see if it behaves the same in the IGT?
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No, because they use different protocols to communicate with the machine. Bally uses ID003 and RS-232 signalling. IGT uses ID024 and Netplex (IGT proprietary bus). Here's a pic of the wires that go to the bezel lamp board (center of photo).
When you find them and if everything looks good then you may have a bad bezel lamp board. I haven't even seen one fail, but they have electronic components on them too, so it's a possibility.
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I've reseated every connection I could find behind the BV, and no difference. I did find some light boards on eBay and ordered one, we'll see if that fixes the issue.
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When you find them and if everything looks good then you may have a bad bezel lamp board. I haven't even seen one fail, but they have electronic components on them too, so it's a possibility.
That was the problem, the new bezel lamp board arrived today, and all is good.
The intermittent lighting of the old board sure did lead one to believe that there was a bad connection, not a bad board. Seems that if the board was bad it wouldn't light at all.
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Thanks for posting the resolution and I'm glad you got it fixed :applause: The good news is that those things are pretty reliable so you likely won't ever have to replace it again. If you hadn't replaced it, it probably would have eventually gone completely dead. Things that are intermittent like that usually do.
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Couple more questions...
Sometimes, maybe 5% of the time, there is a delay (2 or 3 seconds) between pressing the Play 5 Credits button and the reels spinning. Usually, they spin almost immediately after pressing the button. Is this normal?
I am considering the TITO@Home system for both of my games. Does this require a complete clear and key to install that system?
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Yes, that's normal.
No. Normally the only time you need to use a clear chip on a machine is to change the accounting denomination. You will need to key it though to change the SAS settings.
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Trouble in paradise... lol
The game was working perfectly until I attempted to clear/key the machine for TITO@home. When I attempt to clear the machine (per their instructions) the top light comes on solid and the second one flashes and never goes solid. Obviously, I can't proceed until clear is complete. Any ideas as to what the issue might be?
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You clear the credits and key the machine. Don't run a clear chip on it, there is no reason to unless for some reason you want to change the accounting denomination. If you clear the machine you're going to create more work for yourself.
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I asked Brian about that and he suggested the machine be cleared before keying for TITO. Is there a reason that the second light continues to flash with the clear chip installed?
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Here we go again, after I put the SB chip back in it shows this error...
EEPROM Error
and
EEPROM DEVICE ERROR -0x4
Looks like I need another 24C16 EEPROM chip? This was the problem before, what typically makes these chips go bad? (I'll order extras this time) :yes:
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I assume this eBay listing would work for a 24C16 EEPROM replacement? The one I purchased before was $5.00 plus shipping for just one, looking for a better deal. Again, what typically causes this memory chip to go bad?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/383265676464 (https://www.ebay.com/itm/383265676464)
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I'm assuming the EEPROM error message comes back when you turn the reset key fnd follow the instructions on the VFD? If so, then yes, it maybe bad. I don't know why it would go bad if you already replaced it, they normally last for years.
The blinking light probably indicates the clear operation failed, which would make sense if the EEPROM is bad. The ones you linked to should work fine.
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Yes, the EEPROM error message is displayed on the VFD when I turn the reset key and continues to cycle the same message as it tries to boot up. I'll post an update after the new 24C16 EEPROM is installed.
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This is a bit strange, what do you think....?
The new 24C16 chip is arriving later today, so I thought I'd pull the current one out to get ready. Then, for the heck of it I reinstalled the current one (24C16) to see if it just might work... installed the clear chip, powered up machine, and still had the top light solid/second one flashing. Then, I removed/re-installed the board battery into the holder, powered the machine, and got the normal 2 solid lights on the CPU. I didn't proceed with the key process, I'll do that after the new (again) 24C16 arrives and is installed.
Any thoughts???
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You mean....it's working? :Scratch-Head:
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Not yet, waiting on the new 24C16 to arrive. Just thought it was odd that I finally got 2 solid lights when the clear chip was installed, when I was having issues before.
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Dirty socket perhaps. I would have continued.
W
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Quick question....
Assuming I don't have any error codes as I proceed, should I connect the TITO board before or after the machine is keyed, or does it matter?
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It shouldn't matter when you connect the board.
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New 24C16 is in, clear and key chips got 2 solid lights.... now for the fun part.... lol
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We're back spinning reels again, all is good!!! TITO installed. :yes:
I've got a couple TITO questions, but I'm afraid a moderator will split the topic again.
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Post your questions in the TITO section then. Glad you got it running :cool_thumb_up:
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I'm not 100% sure that I didn't have an issue with connection between the backplane and the CPU that may have caused the last problem. What is the best way to clean the pins on the CPU board? It's fine now though, a firm push on the CPU ensures the connection.
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Is the payout percentage on the S2000 set solely by the SS chip, or is that number adjustable when keying the machine?
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Is the payout percentage on the S2000 set solely by the SS chip, or is that number adjustable when keying the machine?
If you are using an SS/SB1000 chip combo on a S2K then it is locked in at the SS%, if using a normal SB it is adjustable.
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I do have the SB001000 and SS6992 combo, according to the chart the SS6992 has a 95% payout. (highest available)
It's just odd that before I installed TITO on the machine the larger payouts were more common. Now they hardly ever show up, and I thought that maybe I may have changed the payout % somehow when re-keying the machine.
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Which component (chip) stores the machine settings?
What creates the RNG, the SB and SS chips?
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The CMOS RAM on the MPU board stores some and some are stored on the EEPROM on the motherboard too.
Not sure which components comprise the RNG on the S2000. The SG's are the game operating system. The Base chip (and reel chip (SS) in your case) contain the paytables for the game.