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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => IGT Fortune 1 Sircoma/Poker => Topic started by: JuJu504 on March 05, 2017, 05:45:00 PM
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Im new to this forum and new to video poker machines, could someone please help me identify the model of my machine? I know that its a 1978 Fortune but dont know the model. Im trying identify it so that i can try to fix it. Thanks in advance
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Looks to be a Fortune 1, made by IGT..
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Yep, that gold colored tray above the monitor says it is a Fortune I. Just hope it is a Ceronix monitor (easy to fix) and not the older Sony TV conversion monitor (hard to fix).
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Its a Ceronix monitor. Im new to poker machines, and i just got this fortune 1 machine today and it powers on all lights light up and monitor comesbon to a blue screen but nothing else shows on the screen, cooling fan isnt coming on, and when i drop a quarter it falls into the payout slot not the hopper. Any help would be very appreciated
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you might want to power off the machine a try removing the circuit board above the monitor.. Clean the edge connections with a pink eraser then reinstall it.. You might also want to do the same to the ceronix chassis connection plugs.. But DO NOT touch or remove the one going to the monitor, that's high voltage and unless you have done it before don't mess with it.. There are two or 3 small plugs on the ceronix chassis that you can check..
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Ill try that tonight and let you know how that work out. Thanks a million
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Now i can see the cards and what is supposed to be the wording on screen but they seem to ve tilted at a extreme slant, and horozontally scrolling and really light in appearance. When i adjust the picture using the adjustment knobs above the monitor and i get the scrollingbto slow down and almost stop, i cant get the extreme slant out of it. Then the scrolling starts again. I know that im doing something wrong i just cant figure out what. And its driving me crazy.
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It could be that the horizontal signal going to the monitor is weak due to a bad connection on the plug that connects to the bottom of the monitor.
It could be the connector that plugs into the back plane board has come loose (marked "video"). Check that it is securely connected.
Try cleaning that connector with cleaner (even foaming glass cleaner will work in a pinch) and brushing the pins with a nylon brush.
It could also be the clock circuit on the MPU board. They do tend to fail due to a weak IC at location D10.
Or it could be the 7407 driver chip, near the color controls on the MPU, is weak or it's legs are corroded, pull it out, clean it, and plug back in.
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Does any one know how to test for a bad clock circuit on my Fortune 1 video poker machine?
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I am not sure but badbaud should chime in shortly and help you out. Welcome to the forum.
Ra
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Thanks for the welcome. Everybody is awesomebon here. I love it. Lol
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Does any one know how to test for a bad clock circuit on my Fortune 1 video poker machine?
In the shop that would normally be done with a frequency counter or an o'scope. The clock signal is what sets the timing for all the other cpu circuits so it is checked for the right freq plus a good clean signal without any ringing or transients that could cause erratic operation of the chips connected to it.
Without this type of test equip I guess you could measure it with a voltmeter to see if something was present on the test point. This isn't the best way since it is limited on what it can tell you. If the clock is a 0 to 5 volt signal you will see about 2.5 volts dc (provided the clock is a symmetrical signal, many but not all of them are).
Below is an o'scope showing clock signal:
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Thanks, for confusing the hell out of me. Lol. Guess that means ill just have to send it in to be checked.
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Thanks, for confusing the hell out of me. Lol. Guess that means ill just have to send it in to be checked.
well, I didn't know what kind of troubleshooting experience you have so I just answered your question straight-up.
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Sorry, i didnt mean to sound unappreciative, i am very much so, i just meant that your answer showed me that this was beyond my scope of knowledge :Scratch-Head: . Lol. I can use a multi meter but dont own or know how to use a oscilloscope. I think i may study up on that and possibly get a scope. Knowledge is power, im a firm believer in that. Thank you so much.
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JuJu:
Dont feel bad. I get dumbfounded by the answers of these experts all of the time. That is how a have learned a lot from these guys and gals. When all else fails send the board out to Larry Weber and Allen for EXPERT service.
Ra
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What leads you to believe it's a "bad clock circuit?"
Can you just describe the problem to us? Are there any error codes? Is there a picture, etc? That might be a better way to start troubleshooting without having to just send the board out.
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Im not sure if it is the clock circuit, Badbaud made several suggestions and that was one of them. The problem is my fortune 1 comes on ( lights and screen for sure) but the screen is scrolling bad and the image is tilted really bad and adjusting screen helps a little until i take my hand of the adjustment pot knob then it scrolls like crazy. The card images get really small from the tilting. The lockout solenoid wont cut on to allow coins to the hopper, the coins just fall to the payout tray and my cooling fan isnt working. So i dont know if its all related or not. Machine worked a year ago just fine but after being turned off and unplugged for a year it is acting crazy now. And its driving me crazy. :banghead:
So im trying everything that everybody suggests to fix it
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Here is ther best photo i can take
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Im not sure if it is the clock circuit, Badbaud made several suggestions and that was one of them. The problem is my fortune 1 comes on ( lights and screen for sure) but the screen is scrolling bad and the image is tilted really bad and adjusting screen helps a little until i take my hand of the adjustment pot knob then it scrolls like crazy. The card images get really small from the tilting. The lockout solenoid wont cut on to allow coins to the hopper, the coins just fall to the payout tray and my cooling fan isnt working. So i dont know if its all related or not. Machine worked a year ago just fine but after being turned off and unplugged for a year it is acting crazy now. And its driving me crazy. :banghead:
So im trying everything that everybody suggests to fix it
Since you have an image on your crt screen (monitor) I'd think the mpu (main logic board in the machine) is hopefully ok, that your crt screen needs work. It isn't uncommon for the old monitors to need a "cap job", which is replacing several of the old larger capacitors on the monitor circuit board. Or there could be something else on the monitor that has gone bad. The video signal does come from the mpu board in the machine, so if you send it out to get checked and repaired they will tell you if it is ok or not. Then you'll know if the monitor has a problem.
The cooling fan is a separate problem, it's probably just old and worn. You might be able to put a drop of lightweight oil on its spindle and get it to going. But honestly you probably don't need a cooling fan for that machine in your home and having it not running will make things a little quieter. If you do want to get it running post a photo of it and we can tell you how to try to get it going. Or you can just get a new fan and replace it, they come in lots of different sizes and operating voltages but you can likely find one that will work ok. But like I said, I don't think you even need a fan, many home owners unplug them. So I'd worry about the fan after everything else is fixed.
I'm not sure about the lockout solenoid and what it takes to activate it, but I don't think it has anything to do with a screwy image on the monitor screen.
If you have a meter you can start by measuring the power supply voltages to see if they are correct. And you can check as many of the connectors as you can for being loose, tarnished, broken wires, etc. Do a good visual inspection, post a photo of anything you are not sure about.
Does your mpu board have a battery that could have leaked onto the board? That's a bad thing to happen so be sure to check for that. Post a photo of your mpu board so we can look it over.
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Thanks, ill have to find someone to do a cap replace for me. I might check locally, i live in New Orleans and we have tons of casinos so finding someone local might save me some money and keep me from possibly shocking myself trying to remove the crt to get to the board. Lol.
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Do you have any other similar machines or some spare parts so that you could do some troubleshooting by swapping out monitors, mpu boards, power supplies, etc?
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No, its the only one i have. Im thinking of picking up a few more if i have a chance though
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Do you have any other similar machines or some spare parts so that you could do some troubleshooting by swapping out monitors, mpu boards, power supplies, etc?
Ive been watching classifieds on here to see if i can find extra parts to have on hand just in case of situations like this. Wont be long i should have me a few spares. Lol
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It could be that the horizontal signal going to the monitor is weak due to a bad connection on the plug that connects to the bottom of the monitor.
It could be the connector that plugs into the back plane board has come loose (marked "video"). Check that it is securely connected.
Try cleaning that connector with cleaner (even foaming glass cleaner will work in a pinch) and brushing the pins with a nylon brush.
It could also be the clock circuit on the MPU board. They do tend to fail due to a weak IC at location D10.
Or it could be the 7407 driver chip, near the color controls on the MPU, is weak or it's legs are corroded, pull it out, clean it, and plug back in.
I cleaned all connectors, and removed the eproms and cleaned the legs now the screen is rolling from bottom right to top left really fast. Do you think it might be a problem on the MPU? And if so does anybody on here repair them?
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Maybe the place where you got this video poker machine has other machines or parts?
Anyway, if you can see the card images on the screen, even if the image is distorted, I think that means the mpu board is running and the clock signal is probably ok. You will need to figure out if the problem is the monitor itself or the mpu board. Both can be sent out for repair, the mpu board will be a lot less shipping cost. Does pressing the buttons do anything, cause the images or sounds to change?
Did you have to spend a lot to get this broken video poker machine? Since you have casinos near you there could be other working machines for sale for good price?
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Maybe the place where you got this video poker machine has other machines or parts?
Anyway, if you can see the card images on the screen, even if the image is distorted, I think that means the mpu board is running and the clock signal is probably ok. You will need to figure out if the problem is the monitor itself or the mpu board. Both can be sent out for repair, the mpu board will be a lot less shipping cost. Does pressing the buttons do anything, cause the images or sounds to change?
Did you have to spend a lot to get this broken video poker machine? Since you have casinos near you there could be other working machines for sale for good price?
I got it for free someone in my neighborhood was going to throw it away so me and my husband went and picked it up. There isnt alot of machines available for sale here since the machines have to be 25 years old or older to own privately and video poker hasnt been legal here for 25 years yet. This is a machine that was once in vegas or some other state not louisiana.
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I see. Free is a great deal, to me that means you can spend some to get it working and still not have a lot of money invested in the machine and it can give you tons of fun. One option that was mentioned earlier is to send the mpu board (that's the main circuit board that controls everything) in to have it checked and repaired if needed. But there may not be anything wrong with the mpu board if the problem is in the monitor, so you have to be aware this is a possibility.
I think you can get a working Ceronix monitor and just replace it if it comes to that. The Ceronix company used to do repairs but I'm not sure about it anymore. One of the problems are the shipping charges both ways, that can add up on something heavy like a monitor. Another option is to replace the Ceronix monitor circuit board, they are sold at different places on the internet. But it would be nice to know if the problem is the monitor or the mpu circuit board.
I didn't know Louisiana had that strict control on slot machines - From watching movies I thought just about anything was allowed down there. :garfield:
I am posting your photo right-side up to make it easier to see. The photo is dark so I also brightened it as much as I can in the 2nd photo so we can see the stuff above and below. If you can take more photos of the machine inside and the front I think that will help everyone to see better. And have more lights on near the machine so the photos won't be so dark.
-EDIT- I saw more photos of the machine in another thread and they are clear and bright.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=14980.msg80105#msg80105 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=14980.msg80105#msg80105)
Moderator - maybe we should merge these two threads on this same machine??
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Id rather send the MPU out to have checked first due to shipping charges on the monitor.i had also seen a archived post where a guy was having almost the same problem with his fortune 1 except his was a video slot, not video poker. His screen was fast scrolling from top right to bottom left. He sent the MPU to Larry Webber i think his name is and badbaud did the service on it and it turned out to be parts of the MPU. I Think that Louisiana has the 25 year law so you cant buy a newer machine that might be in service and use it to learn how any weaknesses that it might have.
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That sounds like a good idea to send out the mpu board. It will be good to find out if it is working or not, plus they do a first rate job and have an excellent reputation. They may also have suggestions on the Ceronix monitor if it turns out that it needs repair.
I'm posting your photos from the other thread here to make it easier for anyone following this discussion. That machine is very clean inside, was it like that when you got it or did you do that? No old stickers or labels or rust, has it been repainted inside?
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K-Lar does, we have a FI tester and plenty of parts.
Call 702-363-9998 after 10 AM PST.
If it works on our tester it may be your monitor, but I won't know till I get the board on the tester.
To save money on shipping weight you may want to remove the board from it's tray and send just the board.
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I think the crt is good, i took the hopper out and powered it on and off a few times then turned it back on and this is my screen now ( see attached photo) its not scrolling at all now but it looks like this, i put hopper back in while unit was still powered on and screen remained the same. But if i turn it off and back on it scrolls again. I have to cycle it on and off several times to get screen back to like it is in the photo. Making progress but still dont know the problem
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That sounds like a good idea to send out the mpu board. It will be good to find out if it is working or not, plus they do a first rate job and have an excellent reputation. They may also have suggestions on the Ceronix monitor if it turns out that it needs repair.
I'm posting your photos from the other thread here to make it easier for anyone following this discussion. That machine is very clean inside, was it like that when you got it or did you do that? No old stickers or labels or rust, has it been repainted inside?
No i didnt repaint it. It was like that when i got it. All i did was dust it out and polish chrome on the front.
1 other question my eprom is in my 000-7FF spot is a PK878-S the other stickers arent there any more on other eprom. Does any one know what game that is?
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I didn't find anything with that particular rom label number but it is likely just the IGT software number for "Joker Wild" video poker for the Fortune I machines. Maybe someone here has a list of the various Fortune I game software. Does the display from what you can make out look like a video poker arrangement (5 cards, pay table info at the top or bottom)?
Below is some info about the lockout solenoid and possible fixes:
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I think the crt is good, i took the hopper out and powered it on and off a few times then turned it back on and this is my screen now ( see attached photo) its not scrolling at all now but it looks like this, i put hopper back in while unit was still powered on and screen remained the same. But if i turn it off and back on it scrolls again. I have to cycle it on and off several times to get screen back to like it is in the photo. Making progress but still dont know the problem
Be careful about not removing or installing things like circuit boards or the hopper with the machine turned on. That can zap something and isn't recommended. With light bulbs it is ok.
Can you find where the power supply is, maybe measure the voltages on the fuses to see if they are ok?
You said this machine worked ok a year ago, it didn't have any problems?
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I think the crt is good, i took the hopper out and powered it on and off a few times then turned it back on and this is my screen now ( see attached photo) its not scrolling at all now but it looks like this, i put hopper back in while unit was still powered on and screen remained the same. But if i turn it off and back on it scrolls again. I have to cycle it on and off several times to get screen back to like it is in the photo. Making progress but still dont know the problem
Thats what the guy who was throwing it away told me. I just turned it on and now it is working and playing except the screen looks like this ( see photo)
Be careful about not removing or installing things like circuit boards or the hopper with the machine turned on. That can zap something and isn't recommended. With light bulbs it is ok.
Can you find where the power supply is, maybe measure the voltages on the fuses to see if they are ok?
You said this machine worked ok a year ago, it didn't have any problems?
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Thats what the guy who was throwing it away told me. I just turned it on and now it is working and playing except the screen looks like this ( see photo)
When you were adjusting all the monitor controls did you get any of them out of whack and that is causing this latest screen display?
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Thats what the guy who was throwing it away told me. I just turned it on and now it is working and playing except the screen looks like this ( see photo)
When you were adjusting all the monitor controls did you get any of them out of whack and that is causing this latest screen display?
Not that i know of, eve when my screen was scrolling bad it was showing 3 lines of cards. Ive tried adjusting the pots and it doesnt help on the 3 rows of cards. By the way i really appreciate your time and patience with me and all my questions
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One other question. What is the circuit board on the left side at the bottom of the cabinet next to the hopper called? The reason that i ask is because when i first got the machine there was a sign taped to it that said: this poker machine is for entertainment purposes only it does not pay out coins. And i noticed that on the wire harness that runs from the bottom of the monitor to the circuit board that the MPU plugs into there are 10 wires cut, and same exact colred 10 wires are cut on the plug that goes from the circuit boardbon the left bottom cabinet wall that goes to the hopper plug. Im thinking that those 10 wires on eachharness were cut to stop hopper from paying out coins. So now im trying to figurebout what those 2 wire harnesses are called so that i can buy the 2 complete harnesses so that it will pay out.
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I don't have a Fortune I slot machine and I haven't worked on one so I am not very familiar with them. So I won't be able to help on some questions about specifics of your machines. Hopefully there is someone here on NLG that knows them well. I believe they were an early model from IGT, then came the Fortune II machines and after that the Player's Edge machines which I do have one of. After the Player's Edge models IGT came out with the S model, then the S+ which was the most popular of all.
In the Fortune I machine I believe you will have an MPU board which is the main circuit board, it has the cpu chip, memory and the eproms that contain the game software inside. There is also a Tone/Sound board for making the sounds, it is located under the monitor shelf toward the left-rear area. There is a Motherboard, it is mounted vertically on the back wall of the cabinet and the MPU board plugs into it There is an Interface board, it is mounted vertically on the left side of the lower cabinet. And on some models there is a Progressive Relay board, it is located in front of the Interface board. Also on some models is a small board that controls the candle (light) on top of the machine. If present it will be near the fan or somewhere in the top of the machine and the candle wiring will connect to it.
The power supply voltages are +5vdc, +5.6vdc, +12vdc, -5vdc and an unregulated voltage I don't know the spec on.
Those wiring cables with the cut wires could be where the casino removed the progressive jackpot equipment or the player's card tracking equipment when the machine was sold. Casinos often remove extra equip like that so they can use the equip on other machines. Not having it in the machine won't keep your machine from working. Since you said the machine worked fine a year or so ago then you know whatever those cut wires went to is not too important.
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One other question. What is the circuit board on the left side at the bottom of the cabinet next to the hopper called?
I just looked in the F1 manual and found this. I don't have one on mine so I had no idea. It appears to be for the progressive set up. You won't need it anyway.
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One other question. What is the circuit board on the left side at the bottom of the cabinet next to the hopper called?
I just looked in the F1 manual and found this. I don't have one on mine so I had no idea. It appears to be for the progressive set up. You won't need it anyway.
I dont have the progressive board either, there is only 1 board on the bottom left side of my cabinet, which must be the interface board. The wire harness im refering that im refering to is the a 16 pin connector that is the first and only 16 pin in section C of the interface board 10 of the 16 wires are cut. Im assuming that they were connected to the 10 wires that are also cut on the wire harness that plugs into the bottom of my crt from the the 16 pin connector coming from the video connector on the board thats mounted in the back wall of the upper part of my cabinet. I think ( not sure) that those 10 cut wires controlled the pay out to the hopper. Ill post a photo in a minute
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Here is the photo the photo shows the hopper removed and the 2 circles is where the 10 wires were cut
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The circuit board next to the hopper is the IO board for the machine. It controls the button functions, hopper, etc.. If you decide to sent the MPU into K-Lar, you might consider sending the the IO and Creonix chassis and have them checked at the same time. That way you know when you get the parts back that you should be good to go, and not possiblie have another surprise that a different boards bad? It looks like that possiblie your Ceronix chassis is fine, by the pics with the multi cards on the screen, but they could at least check and replace the capacitors on the Ceronix chassis.
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I got it running a few minutes ago, i wiggled the mpu out of frusteration and it started working and when i let go of the mpu it went back to scrolling so i took the board out that the mpu plugs into and it had a weak solder connection, so i had my husband solder it. Now its running good
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I mistook your I/O board for the progressive board :duh: . I just looked in my own machine and saw the place where the progressive board goes.
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I dont have the progressive board either, there is only 1 board on the bottom left side of my cabinet, which must be the interface board. The wire harness im refering that im refering to is the a 16 pin connector that is the first and only 16 pin in section C of the interface board 10 of the 16 wires are cut. Im assuming that they were connected to the 10 wires that are also cut on the wire harness that plugs into the bottom of my crt from the the 16 pin connector coming from the video connector on the board thats mounted in the back wall of the upper part of my cabinet. I think ( not sure) that those 10 cut wires controlled the pay out to the hopper. Ill post a photo in a minute
Some or all of the wires that go to connector (section?) C on the Interface board are for the hopper. But you have a hopper installed, so you are thinking someone in the past modded the machine so it could not payout coins, possibly to comply with the law? And by replacing those 2 cables that have the missing wires you can restore the hopper function? You may be able to make replacement cables easier than finding them for sale, unless someone happens to have them from a parted-out machine.
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I dont have the progressive board either, there is only 1 board on the bottom left side of my cabinet, which must be the interface board. The wire harness im refering that im refering to is the a 16 pin connector that is the first and only 16 pin in section C of the interface board 10 of the 16 wires are cut. Im assuming that they were connected to the 10 wires that are also cut on the wire harness that plugs into the bottom of my crt from the the 16 pin connector coming from the video connector on the board thats mounted in the back wall of the upper part of my cabinet. I think ( not sure) that those 10 cut wires controlled the pay out to the hopper. Ill post a photo in a minute
Some or all of the wires that go to connector (section?) C on the Interface board are for the hopper. But you have a hopper installed, so you are thinking someone in the past modded the machine so it could not payout coins, possibly to comply with the law? And by replacing those 2 cables that have the missing wires you can restore the hopper function? You may be able to make replacement cables easier than finding them for sale, unless someone happens to have them from a parted-out machine.
Yes sir, im almost positive that its why it was modded. They cut the wires really close to the connector so there is no way to reuse that connector, would you know where i could get another 16 pin male connector that would fit that socket on the IO board? Or a possible work around?
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Can you take a closeup photo of the connector that has the cut wires and post it? We may be able to give better advice after seeing it. Also, maybe someone here that has a Fortune I machine with that cable can provide enough info that you or your husband can make another one, or someone here can make one for you? Since the connector housing is ok, just need the 10 wires reconnected, maybe you can reuse the connector contacts where the wires are cut off by soldering new wires to them. Or can order new contacts.
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Can you take a closeup photo of the connector that has the cut wires and post it? We may be able to give better advice after seeing it. Also, maybe someone here that has a Fortune I machine with that cable can provide enough info that you or your husband can make another one, or someone here can make one for you? Since the connector housing is ok, just need the 10 wires reconnected, maybe you can reuse the connector contacts where the wires are cut off by soldering new wires to them. Or can order new contacts.
ill take a photo and post tomorrow. I appreciate all your help and every one elses. You have helped out alot and have been very patient will all my questions. :thank_you:
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Looking at your multi-card image it is the MPU that is bad.
I finished fixing 3 FI boards today and one of those had the same problem.
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Can you take a closeup photo of the connector that has the cut wires and post it? We may be able to give better advice after seeing it. Also, maybe someone here that has a Fortune I machine with that cable can provide enough info that you or your husband can make another one, or someone here can make one for you? Since the connector housing is ok, just need the 10 wires reconnected, maybe you can reuse the connector contacts where the wires are cut off by soldering new wires to them. Or can order new contacts.
ill take a photo and post tomorrow. I appreciate all your help and every one elses. You have helped out alot and have been very patient will all my questions. :thank_you:
I have looked over the drawing for the Interface board and those 10 wires that are cut on the "C" connector are supposed to be cut, they are not used. They are marked as "N/C" on the drawing, which means "Not Connected". You can confirm this with anyone that has a Fortune I machine, have them check that "C" connector which is located on the bottom edge of the Interface board and see if the same wires are missing or cut, and their hopper works.
I think that the wires that are cut that you circled in your photo with the 2 red circles are all supposed to be cut. I don't know why your hopper isn't working but I think we need to consider something else as the cause.
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Connector C is the AC power that turns on the hopper.
The group of wires on the left side goes to one side of the hopper motor.
The other side of the connector goes to the other side of the hopper motor.
They used multiple wires on each side to handle the AC current drawn by the hopper motor.
Could be the wires were cut so the machine would not give a payout of coins.
Some states were set up to allow gaming machines if there were no coin rewards for a win.
Easy to reconnect, just match up the wire colors to the ones that were cut.
But if this is a credit machine the Cashout button may have been disconnected so you would not get a hopper timeout tilt.
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The hopper is paying out now, i played and built credits up and realized it doesnt start paying out coins until credit is at 295 unless i cash out.
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You connected the wires as directed and it worked?
Strange, a half asses attempt at a no coin out machine.
I would have removed the two triacs that drive the hopper from the I/O board and made that feature more permanent.
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You connected the wires as directed and it worked?
Strange, a half asses attempt at a no coin out machine.
I would have removed the two triacs that drive the hopper from the I/O board and made that feature more permanent.
No i didnt do anything to it, i just played for awhile and kept feeding quarters and letting credits build up in it like i was at the casino, lol and i had 235 or 240 credits and i hit 4 of a kind which on 5 quarters plays pays 80 so it payed me credits up to 290 then it spit quarters out for the rest of the pay out. Every time it goes below 290 credits it just adds credit but anything over 290 credits pays out and it pays at any credit when you cash out. So much for it being for entertainment purposes only. :rotfl:
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Connector C is the AC power that turns on the hopper.
The group of wires on the left side goes to one side of the hopper motor.
The other side of the connector goes to the other side of the hopper motor.
They used multiple wires on each side to handle the AC current drawn by the hopper motor.
Could be the wires were cut so the machine would not give a payout of coins.
Some states were set up to allow gaming machines if there were no coin rewards for a win.
Easy to reconnect, just match up the wire colors to the ones that were cut.
But if this is a credit machine the Cashout button may have been disconnected so you would not get a hopper timeout tilt.
Connector C on the Interface board has 16 wires. According to the IGT drawing I looked at only 6 of the wires are used, the other 10 are not used. The 6 wires that are used are for hopper motor power (2 hot and 2 for ground) and 2 wires for the hopper coinout switch to count the coins paid out. The 10 unneeded wires don't go anywhere on the Interface board so they were cut from the wiring cable at the factory. There may be variations on this C connector depending on the machine. But I don't think anyone has cut wires to do some kind of mod. When she thought the hopper was not working and then saw these cut wires she thought that was the reason for the hopper not working. But actually the machine was in credit mode until it reached a certain limit, then the hopper began paying out coins won past that credit limit. That may be something that is part of the particular game software stored in eprom.
She hasn't played the machine in over a year so may have forgotten some parts of the machine's operation. Also, if there is a "Cash/Credit" button on the machine pressing it can may change the machine from credit play to paying out winnings.
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JuJu504 - does your machine have a Sound board and does it work ok? If so how would you describe the sounds, I've not played a Fortune I machine. Thanks!
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Good news JuJu...
Thanks to rok for having me look. My F1 also has the same cut cable. They just must have used a larger ribbon cable in manufacturing cut off the unused portion.
I've also included a picture of where your soundboard would be – it's on top of the tray where the hopper sits. Unfortunately, you do not have one.
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This is a great thread that ends in success! I love this kind of story. That same game was my first fortune 1. I was hooked. Now I have 4 different models. This particular poker game I sold to my neighbor. Her mother enjoyed weekly trips to Atlantic City NJ. After a massive stroke she was unable to travel. Her mother went into a deep depression. After getting the fortune 1 in her home AND a Bally EM 809 the old lady, (82) got new life. I helped the family set up a stand so that she could reach the controls in her wheel chair. She would roll up and play for hours. Members of this forum helped me get the game going. It seems that this forum gives new life to people too. :cool_thumb_up:
Just wanted to share
Ra
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Ra, That's a wonderful story about your older neighbor lady, it is great that you could help her with a fun way to pass the time. We never get too old to enjoy playing these machines.
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I just wanted to let you guys and girls know that you are contributing to bringing good into the work. To this day those games are still played daily. Luckily I usually keep my machines in tip top shape. No breakdowns at all if you dont count the time they tried to fish out a bent coin with a wooden popsickle stick. Duh!
Ra
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Well we still never heard back from her regarding the sound board.
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I guess sometimes when people get their questions answered or problem fixed they no longer check in.
:walkingdog: Poof! they are gone.