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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => Bally Alpha Reel Games => Topic started by: br549autosales on August 10, 2020, 10:58:31 PM
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My game is Bally Wild 7s Jackpot 5 reel Quick Hits. The game card reads ASGQHB701001-01 Quick Hits Wild JP Triple Blazing 7s. It's a 30 line/5 play per line. What should I set my 5 jackpot levels at & percentage of each level? Thanks in advance
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It's in the files section.
Look it up.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=4288 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?action=downloads;sa=view;down=4288)
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Thank you sir
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Just did a clear so I can set up my progressive amounts on this Quick Hits machine & now I am getting a mechanical reels not configured error message, what would I need to check for to resolve this issue?
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Make sure the usb cable coming out of the rear reel backplane is connected to the mpu. Also, there's a little box on top of the reels, right in the middle. This is the reel control board. It has a green led, is it lit?
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The green status LED & the USB LED are blinking but not at the same time. The status LED blimks about every 4 seconds & the USB comm just constantly blinks, checking to find that USB cable coming out of the rear backplane now
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The USB cable is connected, is there anything else I can try? Still getting that same mechanical reels not configured and also getting a reel 2 and reel 4 device error
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Move the reels around to see if error follows the reels. If it follow the reels, you have bad reel mechs. If it doesn't follow the reels, you probably need a new reel controller board.
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I'll try that, thanks
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I moved tgevreels around & it still shows mechanical reels not configured & still the same mechanical reel 3 & mechanical reel 2 device error. The real controller board in the middle above the reels is flashing both of the LED lights. The status is blinking every 3 seconds & the USB is flashing every second. I have another Alpha machine I can take the reel controller board out of but it's a 3 reel not a 5 reel machine, doubt if it would work for this 5 reel machine
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The controllers are the same for both 3 and 5 reel, you can swap them around to see if it fixes your issue. If you are getting the same reel errors after the moving the reels around, then it is probably the controller (or in rare cases, the reel harnesses that go to the reel backplane).
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I tried the reel controller out of my 3 reel machine & put it into this 5 reel Quick Hits machine, still getting the mechanical reels not configured plus also getting mechanical reels device error + mechanical reel 1,2,3,4 & 5 device error now. Should I try another MPU? And start over with a clear again?
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Did you clear and reinstall after swapping the RCU?
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RCU?
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Reel control unit (board).
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Yes sir, and got the same mechanical reels not configured plus the reels device errors as well
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Then you probably have a wiring issue. I would compare the wiring and usb cables between the two machines to verify that everything is connected properly. Also look for any obvious broken traces, etc on the reel backplane (immediately behind the reels).
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Will do, thanks. Sorry for all the questions on these 2 machines but I'm homebound for a few weeks after surgery & trying to get these up & running, they both seem cursed so far, ha ha!
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I may have found the root of my mechanical reels not configured problem. The battery holder on the rear wall motherboard has come loose from its solder joints and was not holding the 2032 battery in properly. I have another motherboard I can swap out out for but it looks like it's gonna be a pain in the butt
Other than taking a picture of where all the connectors go on the motherboard, is there something else I can do to make this swap easier?
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It's not that difficult, I've done it many times.
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Swapped it out, did another clear, installed my OS card back in. Still getting mechanical reels not configured, mechanical reel 1 & 5 device error and mechanical reels device error, should I try to replace this board as well?
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On a side note, I installed the reel controller board from my 3 reel machine in and it now shows mechanical reels not configuration, now 1,2,3,4 and 5 mechanical reel device error & mechanical reelsdevice error. All 5 reels are spinning slow like normal during the last part of the boot up if extra info helps any
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If you swap reel controllers, you need to clear the machine. Also have you tried using the reel controller you removed on the good machine to see if it works right?
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I'll try that next
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I think I have 3 or 4 different Bally Alpha clear cards. Is there a specific one I should use?
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The clear card goes with the bios version the mpu has. The wrong clear card will not work (it will give you an error, or won't boot at all).
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Ok well I got the right clear card then but still no go on the tlreel errors, this and the Dublin machine is gonna send me over the edge I guess
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I would just start replacing one part at a time from a healthy machine to determine the part that is producing the problem.
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That's my next plan of action, I have a Diamonds & Devils 5 reel machine at my daughter's house I'm gonna go grab tomorrow
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Ok I got the Diamonds & Devils at my house now. Aside the Quick Hits, what do you suggest I swap out first, the real controller board in the middle above the reels?
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I'd start with the backplane behind the reels.
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Ok thanks
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Changed out that backplane, same reels not configured error. Any chance this could be the culprit? This one is a spare that I have. Also could this same error be MPU related?
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You need to make sure the parts you are swapping are known to be working, otherwise, you are just going around in circles. The part in the previous post is the reel harness, it could also certainly be the cause of the reel 1 and 5 issue (or whatever 2 reels didn't work before). But all reels not configured would appear to be something else. Have you also tried swapping out all the USB cables?
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I have not tried swapping the USB cables but I do have a green LED beside each one of them while the machine is on.
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Swapped over all those parts from the working machine plus uses the USB cables out of the working machine too, still getting mechanical reels not configured & reel 3 device error, the only thing I have not swapped out is the reel harness assembly. About ready to pull what little hair I still have out, ha ha! I'm on a mission now, this machine has kicked my butt
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have you swapped the power supply? Specifically the 5/12V one.
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No sir
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sometimes wonky 5/12v power supplies will not have enough juice to power the reel assemblies. There are actually two versions of that power supply, one of them has a higher current rating on the 5v line (45 amps if I remember right), that is the one meant to be used for stepper machines.
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I'll check that shortly, thanks
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Well Hell, strike 5.....would the 24v power supply also be the culprit? Should I try another known working MPU?
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You have to pretty much try everything at this point
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I swear, this game has kicked my butt big time, hopefully something will eventually rear its ugly head, thank you for the help sir
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Try setting the game up without the progressive or another theme that you have that you know works.
I had this happen on one of my Bally machines a long time ago and I can't remember what I did but I think I had something wrong in the progressive set up.Doesn't make sense but I ended up getting it working.
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I'll try that today, it's worth a shot. Thank you sir
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I think you have to setup progressive on a QH or you will get progressive error.
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I think you have to setup progressive on a QH or you will get progressive error.
YES!
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So I need to set up the progressive values first and then the mechanical reels not configured will go away?
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So I need to set up the progressive values first and then the mechanical reels not configured will go away?
No...
You can not run a Quick Hits without correctly setting the progressives.
I doubt that is your problem but who knows with a Bally.
Have you ever got the progressive set properly?
Have you ever tried to set up the cabinet with a different game just in case you have a software conflict?
Load in something other than your quick hits just to see if it works, see what kind of errors you get.
It probably should be stepper software and the reels will not be correct, ignore that. All I want to see is if you get the same errors...
There are much smarter peeps here than me...
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Will do, I think I have software for a 3 reel Bonus Times. I'll try that
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In all this, I didn't even consider to ask if you even had the right software? Is this a 5 reel or a 3 reel machine? What is the software id you have been using?
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5 reel Quick Hits Wild JP Triple Blazing 7s
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Here is the OS card in this machine
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The software is correct.
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I'm a little late to the show here but I have something to add. It may or may not be helpful.
I have a Bally S9000 and once had reel problems with these error codes, "Mechanical reels not configured", "Mechanical reels device error" and "Mechanical reel #1 device error". The problem turned out to be the reel driver optics board which is mounted on the reel. A visual examination of the board showed a severe burned trace. I replaced the board and it cleared up the problem. I'm not sure how likely it is to happen to two reels at the same time. Maybe a power surge ?
In my case when I swapped reel locations, the problem followed the reel. Something to try, if you haven't already.
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I have several game & OS cards but unfortunately they got mixed up & I don't know which ones match so I'll include pictures. Hopefully some of you guys familiar with Alpha software can tell me which ones match up. I'll try the reels next if this does not work. Thanks in advance
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OS cards
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Here is an Alpha PDF link to what can or must go with what: cpu-bios-os-clear-game & progressive setup charts too:
https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjg3v6H57PrAhWDXM0KHZQ3BUgQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewlifegames.com%2Fnlg%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D10558.0%3Battach%3D28896&usg=AOvVaw1MBeif4c2kQsxowHM2165_ (https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwjg3v6H57PrAhWDXM0KHZQ3BUgQFjAAegQIAxAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewlifegames.com%2Fnlg%2Findex.php%3Faction%3Ddlattach%3Btopic%3D10558.0%3Battach%3D28896&usg=AOvVaw1MBeif4c2kQsxowHM2165_)
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In Bally Alpha the OS is strictly a function of the BIOS. You have to match bios to OS and for the most part, the games will work with any bios if they begin with ASG or AVG. When the gamecard has a number, sometimes only bios 300 with corresponding os in the 3xx range will work.
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Just tried something different: I put 3 reels in & used a Jackpot Double Triple Electro 7s game & OS card. After a clear & then boot up, I'm now getting mechanical reels not configured, Lamp projector disconnected, mechanical device error & mechanical reel 4 device error. How is that possible when I only have 3 reels installed?
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well if the software is for a 4 reel game and you only have 3, you would get that error.
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The software for Double Jackpot Triple Electro 7s is for a standard 3 reel game though
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Honestly, I don't know why you are going down the road of trying different configurations. If the goal is to get the game going as is, you should just stick with the original software you were trying.
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Not trying to be difficult at all but just seeing if it would recognize a 3 reel set up without progressives. I'll put the 5 reel Quick Hits software back in & start all over again. I apologize
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Started back from the beginning, have all 5 reels installed & the Quick Hits software, did a clear & set up all settings including the 5 progressive jackpots & percentages of each, pressed exit to game & still have the following errors:
mechanical reels not configured, mechanical reels device error & mechanical reel 3 device error. Still stuck on this cursed machine
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Did you ever replace the reel harness bracket? I'm thinking it has to be a wiring issue at this point since you have already changed out all the electronic boards.
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That's the only thing I have not replaced, the extra one I had was for a 4 reel machine, just my luck
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It may be that reel harness bracket after all. I powered the machine down for 10 minutes now I'm also getting mechanical reel 1 & 5 device errors now when before I was only getting that on reel 3
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I ordered and installed a brand new reel harness/bracket & it's still giving me the mechanical reels not configured error so I'm going to order another reel controller backplane board in case the one I have is bad or possibly the wrong one. Can someone verify which of these 2 boards is the correct one for this 5 reel Quick Hits machine please? I'll include a picture of each one, thanks
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Here is the other type
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Both of my steppers have the one with the more connectors on them, although the extra connectors are not being used in either case.
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Thank you sir, I'll order that one then
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Back to this nightmare. I've changed the following with known good working parts:
Reel Controller Board
All 3 of the USB cables
Reel controller back plane
24v power supply
5/12v power supply
All 5 reels
Brand new 5 reel harness.
Another known working MPU
Still getting reel device errors & mechanical reels not configured. (Note: I did a clear each time I swapped known good working parts)
Should I try a different back plane motherboard? About ready to put the hammer to it, lol!
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The backplane is the only thing left!
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Just installed a good working backplane, cleared machine, put the OS back in and still getting the mechanical reels not configured. In including a picture of my backplane & reel controller board in case someone sees something out of place
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Reel board
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One other thing, during the boot up process I never get any sounds from the speakers, not sure if that's part of the same problem or not just thought I would mention that
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And every time it boots up I get a different mechanical reels device error. It can be # 2 & 3, numbers 1 & 5 & sometimes 1, 2, 4 & 5
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Picture of the RCU, does anything look out of place?
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Looks the same as mine. I don't know what else to tell you. Are you sure your reel controller is known to be good?
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Yes sir, this thing is just cursed I guess. I was hoping something was not plugged in properly on my board with the USB ports in it, I've checked all the wiring as well & found no damage anywhere
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Finally got it fixed, tried a new 24v power supply, cleared & set all of the settings now it's in ready to play mode. New problem is the JCM bill validator won't take in any Bill's. I set it up for JCM on the device settings, then it initialized & cycled as it should. But when I came out of settings to go to game play the front bezel lights for the bill validator are not lit green & the blue ambulance icon is blinking. Any idea what I can try to resolve this last issue with this jinxed machine? Lol
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Ok the bill validator may not be ready because I've just seen that I have an open door L message on my LCD screen. Both of the logic doors on my MPU are closed with the key so those 2 switches should be closed. Could it be a connection back on the rear of the machine on the motherboard perhaps? I've also tried to. Bypass those same switches with a jumper just behind the game & OS cards and still have the open door L. Any ideas on what else I could try? Thanks in advance
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Follow the wires going to the 2 mpu locks. They may have been snipped or unplugged at the board and at one time bypassed there with a jumper.
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I just checked the wires found to both of the logic switches on the MPU & they are both good. I put a 2 wire jumper into the small logic ug behind the game & OS cards and turned the machine back on & I'm still getting the open door L message. Should I clear the machine & try it again?
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You shouldn't have to. The mpu board may be bad, never had that happen.
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Ok thanks, I'll see if I can find another MPU
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I don't have another regular Alpha MPU, will a 1 Ghz MPU work instead?