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TITO - Ticket in Ticket Out, Slot Toppers, Stands and Add-on Accessories => Slot Toppers => Topic started by: 777sizzler on August 26, 2014, 05:51:50 PM
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Slot toppers these days have evolved into some very nice intricate items. Please post your toppers here. They now have lcd toppers,toppers with reels in them, toppers that blow confetti out etc.. And of course the vintage ones as well!. This is just a show and tell and info on toppers in general for all makes. I myself will help post some pics in the time coming.
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POLYGONS
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Very nice! Do the polygon ones hook up like the normal toppers?
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Mike, They do just as long as you have the wiring with the topper. These work great on s-2k machines and avp machines. When used on avp the usb logic control can be used.
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You can make your own custom ones also.
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That looks like you on the machine-- :arrowthruhead: , The Spam can is factroy orginal and quite rare these days. I had some of those quite a while back!. Thanks For sharing. What did you do with your alpha viedo topper?. I have gotten a few more and close now to setting some up but going to do on the alpha 2 platform, Got a few 22 inch pro's with super candles etc. and some of the other type. I am going to have to incorporate bally cool sign box and some I-view boxes on multiple set-ups. Just have not done it yet.
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I still have the Alpha Video Topper. No clue how to use it. Got my fingers crossed you will help me with it. I put a regular topper on my Playboy Alpha. I also have a very cool Flintstones Topper that takes a Camera video card.
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This is what I am dying to make work. Hopefully a Genius can help. And yes Barry you fall in that category. For an Alpha 2, but I want it on an Alpha S9000 or as a stand alone. Oh yea, still needing the marquee control board IGT #7692480.
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This is what I am dying to make work. Hopefully a Genius can help. And yes Barry you fall in that category. For an Alpha 2, but I want it on an Alpha S9000 or as a stand alone. Oh yea, still needing the marquee control board IGT #7692480.
if the bally topper is just an lcd im willing to bet its just vga i know bally didn't use custom video signals in the evos.
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Here are the connectors for the Bally. I know the white plug goes in the top box and the candle plug. One is the video that I don't have a place for unless I can split the one to the monitor. And the last plug I have no idea.
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a splitter would make both screens have the same picture. you probably need a computer with 2 video out an a game that supports it. if nothing else tho i would be cool to put something like a raspberry pi in it and have it kind of like a novelty digital picture frame.
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Picture frame thing would be cool also. Running a slide show while playing. Had realized a splitter would make both screen the same and wasn't opposed to that either. But this thing has more wires than the machine will allow.
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Jim, (Elvis Jim), If you look at the main pwr plug in your hand and look at your machine-top box you will find that top box pwr is not as populated as the pwr connectors on lcd topper. With clip facing you look from front right-2nd left is empty on machine but full on topper plug. This is main pwr for the monitor. I checked this earlier today and working on a adaption/work-around for alpha-1 usage. There are diff. styles of Bally lcd toppers -They have diff. plugs,requirements etc. The vid. is just vga-You have to have a "external vid. source" which we will discuss in the coming time as I have stated in the past. The other plugs on your model would be for super candle and light ring operations. Black micro jr. connectors. You will have to have a working light ring controller board wich was normally mounted on left side of reels/cabinet. These were used more on higher end games/elite's etc.
The topper Has to have a vid. source. Bally uses "cool-signs" boxes and paltronics etc. And that being said just about all the big 3 use the same. Even one of the older paltronics long silver boxes will work. The media loaded on them though depending on which box used can get a little "Hairy". Here is a few pics for now, These items are not for sale but just for pics as I am using them as well. I will up-date a step by step process on alpha 1 platform use once I start. Sorry for the long words-- :fryingpan: . Also go to suzz/happ site and see what they want for a paltronics media--Don't know why so high but this is good stuff but not that price good!.
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Good Grief. $875.00 to $3100.00 plus 1 million for the surprise shipping.
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They look like standard thin client pcs probably only difference is the operating system.
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We are not talking that much here gentlemen-and ladies- :fryingpan: . I will be able to help on some of the media boxes in the future here-NOT at those jacked prices!. First thing is the basics, Pwr-up, connections, what is required for one's given alpha machine etc., Then the vid. input. These are nice and any one that has been to casinos recently or even a year ago knows that Bally,wms,igt etc. all use a version of lcd topper these days. Will be nice and cool to incorporate these into some of the somewhat older platforms for our enjoyment.
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i did some digging the bally cool signs are actually thin clients normally these boot a virtual desktop off a server have you tried to power one of them up to see what it does? knowing what normally drives them gives me a lot of ideas. now i wish i had one of the displays to experiment with.
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So if I plug the one in it should light up. Just have no video input, right?
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The Bally cool sign boxes are really neat. Most run windows embedded in the background and have signage media loaded on a hard drive that display on a large monitor. The content loaded on the drive loops and replays. Unit is a small computer that has sound card, audio in and out, video out, and USB connections.
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Jim, Given your platform it prob. will not. That was the work around I was talking about. I could jump these and make work but it would pull to much of a load on the base pwr supply (s) . If you look closely you will see a yellow wire in the slot in the connector that will not recieve pwr. If you were to take the monitor out of the topper,hook it direct from top box feed it will work-just saying that a end-around proper way to function these on alpha 1 is the best way to go before things start going ka-put. I have limited time to help on this but that being said I will help Every chance I get. This Will be EASY with all the great minds here.!.
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It would be great to have as a stand alone and put on my custom Rockin Elvis IGT slot. Play my DVD thru it.
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The Bally cool sign boxes are really neat. Most run windows embedded in the background and have signage media loaded on a hard drive that display on a large monitor. The content loaded on the drive loops and replays. Unit is a small computer that has sound card, audio in and out, video out, and USB connections.
all documentation im finding says they are windows virtual machines loaded through a thin client. i strongly dougnt the small plastic boxes in the pics given would be powerful enough to run embedded windows plus process video. i have a lot of experience in virtual machines and thin clients and the only thing im seeing in this user guide that is custom is the coolsign manager software its self and a login splash screen.
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There are two types that I know of. The ones above the topper in the picture use flash memory and the one below the topper to the right have a hard drive and basically is a small pc.
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Depending on how much functionality you would want on it, you could just give it juice and use an ipad/ipod with vga adapter and off you go. Slide shows or videos.
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Yes, But you could also just use a dvd player with a vga to hdmi conversion, depending on what you are using, depending if you can get the correct ratio correct -given the monitor-etc. Endless possibilties. For those that have some of these, Try them and post here!.
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now i want to try to build one. i know i wont be able to find one cheap enough to do the kind of experiments i want to do on it. but but with all the types of io things like the raspberry pi has i can think of a lot of cool things to do with it.
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You have not seen nothing yet!. We are going to share as we go on these. The "media boxes" are however quite awesome with the op. sys. embedded in them enabaling with proper access to import files for media, etc. Had one going about a week ago on a Alpha2 platform --was just to easy as we are looking at adapting these for alpha1 and others.
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Here's closer pictures of the wiring. One black plug is 12 pin and other is 16 pin. Don't see anything like them in S9000 top box. The one is in the same harness as the white plug.
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Jim, Help is on the way soon. Your 10-pin connector is prob. fully populated and machine side is not(missing one). The black micro molex goes to the light ring controller-but you can still use this if you do not have that. I have helped a good friend -(for many years) with some equipment and He should be able to help clear some things up and answer some questions. Better to see the stuff in action and hear it from the horse's mouth.
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Jim there is a yellow wire with a blue stripe on it that will have to be moved to a different pin for it to work on the alpha 1. When you get a chance we can go over it.
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OK, I got it going. The 16 pin plug goes to the left of the reels. Do I take the 2 screws out and remove all 5 reels or is there another way to get to plug it in? I am guessing I need to drill the top box to get the plug down there. http://youtu.be/J5GNQXWH8Zc (http://youtu.be/J5GNQXWH8Zc) http://youtu.be/Lc-JB1KuE8E (http://youtu.be/Lc-JB1KuE8E) http://youtu.be/DxOew6xz080 (http://youtu.be/DxOew6xz080)
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http://youtu.be/DxOew6xz080 (http://youtu.be/DxOew6xz080)
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Nah, If you do not see any open holes Just unclip/disconnect one in the sheet metal not being used and fish it thru. Should be one on left side for sure if not right side. Check it out. B.
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Looks good. Glad you got it going.
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I have to say nothing wrong with looking at that. - :Tongue_Out: . The help was late but none the less came -Now you know you did not waste your $ or have a boat anchor as some would say. Once it is fully up you can even modify from the topper graphaics output for media. I think you get and have the idea/ticket now-- :cool_thumb_up: . Nice topper and cool stuff, -Thanks for the post!.
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I have 2 video cables going to the monitor. A black and a gray. I chose the black one as video feed. I am guessing the other as touch screen? I have one space open for plug, but it is too small to let the plug end thru.
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OK I plugged in the 16 pin for the super candle. It just sits there and flashes real pretty. Prism like. But the reel surround lights just flash in an ugly orange instead of chasing and changing colors. Any other idea's?
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Jim, I notice that your side lights are not lit on your topper?. Also which lite ring controller board are you using-There are about 5-diff. types. (mounts in center,left of reels on most). If your board has the one with a removable chip in it-Prob. not going to work.
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The board is on the left side behind the meters. I'll look at it tonight and see what it say's. Did not have a plug for the side lights it is 12 pin
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Here is the controller board. It has plugs for 2 bezels. I think I see it now. A jumper for single 1-2 or dual 2-3
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Jim, This is what I was thinking you had, The first release with the chip in it dated 03. On some toppers a 06 will work then it goes 09 and up, each time they added more ports to hook up devices. I will try in the next couple days pull some out as most my examples to show working have been sold (not from here). We will get you going but you must and have to be feeling better about this. On some applications it takes a little work to adapt alpha2 to alpha 1. B.
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Thanks Barry. Tonight I will move that jumper and see what it does then. Charles said for the side lights I would have to get a power supply and choose one color.
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OK, I moved the jumper and did the 15 minute boot. Did not have any lights on super candle or bezel. Turned it off and put it back to single and still no bezel lights. When I turned it off it lit briefly. I never paid a lot of attention but thought they came on during a win and bonus. Like I said when I plugged it in while in the single mode both flashed quick. I hope the board did not get ruined by having both connected during single mode. What do you think.
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OK hoping you can find the 06 or 09. Setting this to dual will not power front bezel and super candle together. It will do the bezel set at single
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The 06 may work but the 09 will. Jim I have moved a few games with this equipment in them and will have to re-rig a game given I still have the equipment myself. Have sold all but one alpha viedo topper and the one I have left is a 2014 with diff. plugs on it but will hook to the board I speak of. Charles Should have a good collection of these by now. (opman)
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OK here is my board. When I first plugged in the super candle I did not know about moving the jumper to 2 and 3. The super candle lit and the front bezel lit one color. Since that first time nothing has lit even after moving jumper. I guess I need a new board with 06 or 09 chip in it. Or is it possible my game doesn't support both being used? I have the Playboy with 15 free games and Centerfold bonus.
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OK. I got the PCA 212710-X-7 Bezel board and everything works perfect. Beautiful.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccDcp08jIsY (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccDcp08jIsY)
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Didn't know where to put this (Sorry moderators)... :no:
I just got a Suzo-Happ (IGT) Polygon Topper and wanted to put it on a Williams cabinet. Figured out the voltage INPUTS for you electronically inclined folks out there.
And yes, yes, I know, I know.. It's an IGT game displayed on a WILLIAMS cabinet. Well, some of us just like "Lit Up, Flashy, Blinky things" displayed in our Game Rooms. Figured I'd try and help others out there that enjoy the same.... :Crazy:
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Looks great. If you have a vinyl graphics place near you, you can get them to copy the art on your glass and make your own topper insert. The place near me even does it in Backlit material.
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Good stuff. Ill be printing this out and adding to my files.
Looks great as is. I love the colors, do they run or flash?
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Good stuff. Ill be printing this out and adding to my files.
Looks great as is. I love the colors, do they run or flash?
The polygons flash, chase, fill, and dance all different colors in all different ways/modes. The coolest topper out. :yes:
If you're thinking of getting one, get 2! :cool_thumb_up:
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Sounds it. Whats the price for one of them? I recall some past posts about what looked like that topper however there were comments about not buying them because they were missing parts to make it work. Was yours complete when ordered?
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Sounds it. Whats the price for one of them? I recall some past posts about what looked like that topper however there were comments about not buying them because they were missing parts to make it work. Was yours complete when ordered?
The good ol' Sizzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzler had them for sale here (link to post below), fully functional, minus the harness.., not the bs junkman missing board/harness turds that dood was trying to push..
I posted how to make the harness in that thread. And I'm sure the Sizzler has a few available, PM him and see.
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=3748.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=3748.0)
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