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Progressive Controllers and Displays => Mikohn Progressive Systems => Topic started by: acura123 on December 07, 2015, 08:10:18 AM
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I was finally able to get mu machine running and accepting tickets. Now I would like to take the next step and get the progressive meter working. I have a Igt s2000 and I don't have the ballys mastercom to control the progressive meter, I have the display. What is the easiest way to get the progressive working again.
Thanks in advance,
James
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The mastercoms do not control the progressive.
What parts do you have? Just the meter in the glass?
Send us a few pictures inside your machine. If the meter is the only part you have I would suggest replacing it with a Spectrum unit they are completely self contained and are relatively cheap and easy to program.
Rich
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Pics of machine. Where can I buy a spectrum display?
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It looks like you have it all.
If its a stand alone unit then
all you need to do is program it.
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what do I need to do to program it?
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If its a stand alone unit (should be printed on the board in the 3rd picture).
There is a software program and you need a laptop
with a serial port is all I know.
There is people here that know a lot more than me
that can tell how to get it done.
You do need to clean that top box, all that dust is bad for electrinics!
:burningresistor: :burningresistor: :burningresistor:
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I thought the Bally's mastercom controlled the card reader not the progressive? If you look at my other post entitled sizzling 7 c9 error, they say I need a con 2 to operate in the home environment.
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The board in picture #3 is the control board for the progressive display.
If they say you need a con 2 to operate in the home environment,
then you need a stand alone controller.
The spectrum display is a better setup as the old
system are a pain and getting hard to find parts for.
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You have two different units pictured. The first one is a mastercom and you are correct it controls the card reader etc.
The last picture is a cham II progressive unit but it is not a stand alone. It would require a con 1 or con 2 to allow you to use that board. ( if you have many machines that you want to tie to a common progressive this is the way to go)
You could purchase a cham II+ also called a cham II stand alone and use your existing display meter. A cham II+ would also allow you to put a scrolling message along with the jackpot value.
The easiest method would be to remove all that stuff and use a Spectrum unit, they are self contained and easy to program.
Hope this clarifies what you have.
We can help you with what ever direction you want to go.
Rich
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Which ever way is the quickest and easiest method. Where can I buy a spectrum? Also can My base game chip be copied, Im afraid of breaking it with all the removals?
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If you become a contributing member you can post a WTB in the classifieds on this forum. (You can also get your spare SB chip there) membership is well worth the money for the help and information available here.
The easiest way to go is the spectrum, one unit self contained and easy to program.
Rich
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Sold I'll take one
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Great but I'm not a vendor.
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any idea where I can get a spectrum display?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikohn-Gaming-Cham-II-LED-Progressive-Message-Board-and-Daughter-IGT/231776653718?_trksid=p2046732.c100040.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107095009%26meid%3Dc0b09f4969c54a0b9d6d05ea6fa498c4%26pid%3D100040%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231776653718 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mikohn-Gaming-Cham-II-LED-Progressive-Message-Board-and-Daughter-IGT/231776653718?_trksid=p2046732.c100040.m2060&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107095009%26meid%3Dc0b09f4969c54a0b9d6d05ea6fa498c4%26pid%3D100040%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D231776653718)
would this work?
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That's just the meter I believe you already have that.
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If you become a contributing member you can post a WTB in the classifieds on this forum. (You can also get your spare SB chip there) membership is well worth the money for the help and information available here.
The easiest way to go is the spectrum, one unit self contained and easy to program.
Rich
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Will an IGT cds progressive meter work on my machine?
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I believe that is a spectrum. Do you have any pictures or links to what you want to get so we can be sure?
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S2000-Slot-Machine-CDS-Progressive-Meter-Complete-Easy-Programming-PNP/371257763360?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3Dc56d9e5541984789919774500e062f66%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D371416399544 (http://www.ebay.com/itm/IGT-S2000-Slot-Machine-CDS-Progressive-Meter-Complete-Easy-Programming-PNP/371257763360?_trksid=p2047675.c100010.m2109&_trkparms=aid%3D555012%26algo%3DPW.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D20131231084308%26meid%3Dc56d9e5541984789919774500e062f66%26pid%3D100010%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D24%26sd%3D371416399544)
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Lets put some clarity to this.
1. The meter in the machine is a 12 cell basic display - no graphics but you can have text and 3 colors. It is designed to talk to a CHAM II controller.
2. The Cham II controller is a display controller that gets its data feed from a CON2i progressive link controller.
**** It was mentioned above that a CON1 would work - it won't. A CON1 is an older series of gear that has different controllers and meters.
3. The CON2i link controller is designed to connect to many machines and talk to multiple display controllers.
SLOT === CON2 === ChamII === Meter.
4. The CON2i is programmed using a program called PSP from a laptop with a custom 9 pin serial cable. You can take a standard serial cable and short a couple of pins
- several threads on the site of how to do this.
5. If your newer laptop does not have a 9pin serial port you will need a USB to 9pin cable, then a regular serial cable that you can modify. You plug your modified one into the other as an extension.
6. A CON2i can be an expensive venture. $300-$800 range. Please note the 'i' in CON2i as that denotes IGT - lots of CON2's around but very few Con2i's. Making them more expensive.
7. If you have no intention of wiring several machines up to have a linked progressive I would suggest you replace your Cham II with a Cham II+
- The Chamii+ (again note the plus) is a standalone progressive controller that works with just 1 machine ($70-$150) and will work with your meter.
- You still use PSP and the modified serial cable to program it.
8. The nice thing about the meter you have and the ChamII+ is that it can be used in almost any flavor of slot machine.
9. IF you want a fancier display there is one called a Supreme which cables directly to the CON2i and you can create graphic sequences that get downloaded directly to the Supreme. When you program the CON2i you reference the graphic sequence kept in the display. These do not work from the Cham II+
10. I don't know a whole bunch about the spectrum but I believe its a standalone meter / progressive in one unit, and is IGT not Mikohn. It works only with the IGTS2000 and not the older S+ models.
The suggestion in the threads above is to buy a spectrum and replace your current meter and the Cham II (non plus) unit you have.
Hope this makes sense.
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Jay I found a listing for a CDS Progressive display. See link above. Will this work. Im looking for the easiest way to display a progressive on this single machine.
Thanks,
James
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James
Yes that CDS unit in the link is the correct one. As long as you have an S2000 it will work.
I noticed that seller also has stand alone Mikhon units for sale but you might want to review on requirements for a cable and programming process.
The CDS unit is complete with all wiring and all you will need is a key chip. Also tell him what type of top box you have as the mounting differs slightly.( round top, chop top, etc)
Rich
Thanks Jay for the clarification I thought con1 would work with chamII.
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I still have these available: http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=8524.0 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=8524.0)
Jim
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The CON1 had no standalone progressive features that I am aware of.
You use a CON1 to a LED5 which drives a small 14 cell small format meter. LED in this case = Link Extension Device, or ChamI
They also have a LED4 which drives a larger display (16" wide x 3" tall) and you can put up to 16 of these together for a 1x16 (1 tall, 16 wide) or a 2 x 8 (2 tall, 8 wide).
The latter is a slightly larger than 10' sign. I run this over my bar. You need a separate power supply for every 6 panels.
Relatively speaking the CON1 / LED devices are cheaper than the CON2 CHam II series.
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I was able to get the spectrum up and running!!!
Is there a way to center the display?
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Glad you got it working!!
From what I remember about the spectrum there is no way to center the amount as the room to the left is for a larger jackpot amount.