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NLG Users Repair Logs and Other Ramblings. Request your very own topic. Just ask any site staff. => Buzz's General Insanity. Enter at your own Risk !!! => Topic started by: Buzz on April 21, 2014, 07:23:36 PM
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I may as well break in this new site with some more of my famous BS.
This one has been weighing on my mind for quite a while. How many times have I read " Turn power off before removing the board", now I'm not going to try and convince anyone to install or remove a part with the power on, but can just one person post here that they know for a fact that they damaged a part by forgetting to turn the power off.
The only lights I have in my living room are the lights from (20) slot machines, if at night I'm doing something with a machine, I turn the power off, remove the board, and turn the power back on so I can see what I'm doing. More often than not I forget to turn the power back off before reinstalling the board. As for as I know I have never damaged a part by removing or installing it with the power on. I've heard all about the arcing and burnt pins and have yet to see it.
If you by chance have a CDS machine, disregard all of the above. A CDS I suggest you turn power off if only removing coins from the hopper.
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When I cooked a 9 line display and IO board it was when I plugged the IO in with the power on
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I know some people here that routinely pull out a monitor (LCD or CRT) with the power ON and they chuckled when I questioned it, despite the warning stickers. I still don't have the guts to try it. :o
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Buzzer, I can no longer sit idly by while you demean yourself in public by continually referring to your vast knowledge and brilliant insight as Bullshit (BS)!
It is high time you embraced a concept that is absolutely basic to any Marketing professional; and that is the difference between Bullshit and Steer Manure:
BS is a randomly distributed noxious “hick†substance so generally offensive that it cannot even be given away.
SM is a highly desirable agricultural and horticultural medium essential to the proper nurturing of civilized society, and represents more than $100 billion in worldwide sales every year.
Buzz, you are not a bullshitter; you are a Purveyor of High Class Steer Manure. :Tongue_Out:
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Does that mean that I can expect a check in the mail ?? I could sure use the money !!
When I'm told the site is dead and to start :stirthepot: :stirthepot: :stirthepot: , I try to use the biggest stick I can find. I even believe some of this BS I write, up to you to figure out what I believe and what I don't. :Scratch-Head: :Scratch-Head:
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I know some people here that routinely pull out a monitor (LCD or CRT) with the power ON and they chuckled when I questioned it, despite the warning stickers. I still don't have the guts to try it. :o
Travis True story, a couple of years ago on my way back from Boise I stopped by Ceronix to buy a 19" LCD for a Game King, now understand Ceronix are like Burger King, they don't make it until you order it. So the only monitor they had was in a test slot machine, I didn't care so I bought it. The shop forman who has worked there for years opened the door and pulled the monitor out without turning off the power. Well I had to ask and he told me for years they had been removing monitors with out turning the power off. If it's good enough for Ceronix it's good enough for me.
After I started this reply I got to thinking. When they made new monitors, there is a assembly line going around the shop and a different person installs a different part. When the monitor is complete and just before it goes through a hole in the wall to the shipping dock this same forman plugs power to it and does some test ( this is done to every monitor ) when hes done with his test he pulls the plug and hooks up to the next one, so I guess you could say every monitor coming out of Ceronix has been removed from the power without turning off the power.
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I would never consider myself an electronics guru.... unless of course you use the wikpedia definition of GURU as "Good Understanding, relatively useless". My grade 10 electronics teacher was very clear. Electronics work on smoke. When the smoke is released the electronics no longer work.
Here is my 2c for anyone that wants to listen.....
Typically components within a monitor receive DC power from a regulated power supply contained within the monitor. When you pull the monitor, you are pulling the AC feed to the regulated power supply. Other than a potential AC arc at the plug as it is removed, there is technically no difference than if you had turned off the power switch which cuts the AC feed to the regulated power supply.
Pulling or inserting a MPU board from a S+ with the power on - could potentially carry greater risk to the components as you have an exposed edge card with multiple traces. If you were to pull at a slight angle you could "potentially" short one of the traces against another and if one trace was a data line and the other a power feed you could easily send 12v where it is not intended to go subsequently frying components. 97 times out of a 100 you pull straight up or push straight down and nothing will go wrong. Its those other 3 times when your just not paying enough attention.
Some components are highly static sensitive and just touching the board could cause a small electric zap. In which case having the power on increases the possibility of an electrical arc forming as the board is removed or inserted. Grounding oneself with a static strap to ground is always good practice to minimize this risk.
The real risk is working inside a metal cabinet with the power on. Presumeably you have opened the door because something has stopped working. You don't know what. You put your hand inside and get a good AC zap from something else that has shorted. If you have a weak heart this could prove fatal vs simply hair raising. Even if nothing is wrong. You bump your hand against the wrong thing and zap.
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All of this makes sense about monitors guys, especially your story about Ceronix Buzz..... but I'm still turning off my power! :rotfl:
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You plug and unplug monitors all day long with the power on and probably not damage them. The critical equipment, like IO cards, needs the power shut off. It's not like it will kill it automatically if you plug a card in with the power on, it's that you raise the odds significantly by doing so
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I'm not sure why I chose this thread, but I miss Buzz. There are tons of great members here but Buzz was one of a kind. Funniest guy I never met! :24: :rotfl:
NLG isn't the same without him, period.
Danny
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I'm not sure why I chose this thread, but I miss Buzz. There are tons of great members here but Buzz was one of a kind. Funniest guy I never met! :24: :rotfl:
NLG isn't the same without him, period.
Danny
Yeah but his memory will always be here. :yes:
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:I_agree_1: Buzz put the color in the site!
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I keep bumping up his reputation. :yes:
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You guys were good to put up with him. Lol he had alot of fun here. Thank you
Robert
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Robert, thanks for popping in, your dad was a good guy and I enjoyed the one time I was able to meet up with him at Joeys. We had a good meal and a good conversation that day.
Cowboy
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I used to meet up with your Dad in Victorville. He was a great guy.
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He would do just about anything for anybody. And there were some that took advantage of that. I won't say any names DEAN took his kindness for a weakness. They were mistaken. If not for a promise I made those people that did would see differently. But I never lied to my old man and I always keep my word shame people like Dean can't . Thanks guys . He really did love this site.
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Just thinking of you Buzz -
I miss you
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Just thinking of you Buzz -
I miss you
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Heading to Victorville this week it won't be the same, miss you Buzz
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I never met Buzz in person, or talked to him on the phone. But if I made a Bone Headed comment here, he didn't hesitate to tell me and put me in my place... He is missed.. :waving_flag:
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Thanks everyone for all the kind words .
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Yep, Buzz was a one of a kind
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That is a understatement for sure
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Buzz, was a super nice person! I talked several times and enjoyed it. He can to my home once! I really miss him was Great Friend! Loved his tee shirt! I use his saying I'm old and that my excuse!
Richard
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Another year without Buzz .
Things just aren't the same.
Miss you !
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Yes I agree I miss Buzz!
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Yea this place is a lot different without him around. He was not afraid to speak his mind and keep us in our place. :hissyfit: :fryingpan: Miss yea Buzz.. :waving_flag:
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Sorry to burst bubbles but it won't be another year he has been gone until March. And like I said before. It was kind of you to put up with him Lol
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Having met him in person at a NLG BBQ back in 2009 and maybe another year he was his own soul.
Live on and most likely he is lurking around the command center from up above.
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If he had been buried would be turning over in grave about now. Because have been clearing out slot shit. Because have had enough and it all needs to go. He wouldn't agree. Lol