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Progressive Controllers and Displays => Mikohn Progressive Systems => Topic started by: grahamjw on May 02, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
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Hi everyone,
I've spent the last couple of days scouring this forum for information about a Supreme board that I've purchased from eBay with no idea what it was! I've made a degree of progress communicating with the board but so far I can't get any display at all on the LED panels, although the power LEDs on the rear of the panels do light up, so I assume the issue is signal. I don't have any specific goals for the setup but I like tinkering and learning about stuff like this.
First to describe the setup, I have a Supreme board that came mounted on a chassis panel with an integrated power supply, and three 12 cell LED panels which appear to be part of the same overall assembly (the power supply has three longer 5v outputs to suit the displays as well as a short one for the Supreme). Pictures hopefully attached below.
I'm able to communicate with the Supreme over the serial port and issue basic commands that it appears to respond to. Status enquiries on the board show that it runs though various apps such as "Play Mik App" and "Progressive App" so it appears to be happily doing something, at least. I've included some output below.
I have the Mikohn Download software and I can connect to the Supreme and get a list of files. I haven't tried any file transfers yet.
So, some questions from me firstly related to the setup as it is:
1) The power supply only seems to have a 5v output for the Supreme but the Supreme board also has a header for a 12v supply. Is 12v required? I've tried with and without it, but the board seems to operate fine with only the 5v supply connected.
2) What is the correct way to connect the 10 pin IDC outputs from the Supreme to the LED panels? I've tried a few different ways without success. On the Supreme side there are outputs J5 and J6 (primary and secondary). Should these both be active? On the LED panel side I know they daisy-chain but which of the two 10 pin connectors is 'in' (from the Supreme, or the previous panel in the chain) and which one is 'out'?
3) Should there be some kind of output appearing on the displays right now, or am I missing something more basic in my setup? I've seen references to boot information, setup menus (via the config switch and buttons on the board), error messages and the like. So far I haven't seen any life from the panels whatsoever.
I guess if I can confirm that I haven't just connected things the wrong way around then I can start asking some more questions about troubleshooting. I'd appreciate any input that forum members have to offer and particularly if anyone has any photos of a similar setup that they could share so I can see what a working setup looks like in terms of wiring.
Cheers!
Graham
SSS U U PPPP EEEEE RRRR CCC H H AAA M M
S U U P P E R R C H H A A MM MM
SS U U PPPP EEE RRRR C HHHHH AAAAA M M M
S U U P E R R C H H A A M M
SSS UUUU P EEEEE R R CCC H H A A M M
Version = CSP 3.16
Speed = 40008969
GETTING CRC
CHKDSK Drive A:
Building Sat
Building Fat
DRIVE A: had 0 error(s) corrected.
Building Sat
Building Fat
DRIVE B: had 0 error(s) corrected.
CHKDSK Drive B:
Building Sat
Building Fat
DRIVE B: had 0 error(s) corrected.
CHKDSK Drive C:
Building Sat
Building Fat
DRIVE C: had 0 error(s) corrected.
ROMTEST ................OK
cls Clears the screen.
time Display or Set the TIME.
date Display or Set the DATE.
birth Initialize system.
status Display system status.
state2 Display EEPROM contents.
setc1 Set C1 to not show.
commtime Set the time for C1 time-out.
noload Set LOADING to not show.
version Print the current version number.
COMMAND -->status
Heap Start 1C2A:0000
Heap End 3C00:0000
Heap Size 1FD6:0000 130400
Stack Size 42000
Stack Used 40980
Stack Not used 1020
Largest Free Block = 73728
Timer in use = 15
FLASH 1A4 MAN:AMD DEVICE:29F040 SECTORSIZE:256
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Process #00: NULL Priority 05 0% Time 65466 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #01: Back Priority 03 0% Time 166538 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #02: Inter Priority 02 0% Time 1657 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #03: Jpwin Priority 03 0% Time 275438 Scale 0 | WAIT_TIMER 11
Process #04: Front Priority 03 6% Time 59774974 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #05: Idle Priority 04 68% Time 624315377 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #06: MIK APP Priority 03 1% Time 13611086 Scale 0 | WAIT_TIMER 12
Process #07: DOWNLOAD Priority 03 0% Time 166024 Scale 0 | WAIT_RX_OR_TO 1
Process #08: MSG APP Priority 03 0% Time 1407 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #09: Message1 Priority 02 0% Time 134062 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #0A: Message2 Priority 02 0% Time 1373 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #0B: Message3 Priority 02 0% Time 1373 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #0C: Message4 Priority 02 0% Time 1372 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #0D: Message5 Priority 02 0% Time 1371 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #0E: Message6 Priority 02 0% Time 1367 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #0F: Message7 Priority 02 0% Time 1364 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #10: Message8 Priority 02 0% Time 1362 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #11: PRGSV APP Priority 02 0% Time 7850753 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #12: Refresh Priority 00 26% Time 244013909 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #13: Scheduler Priority 01 0% Time 1466200 Scale 0 | WAIT_TIMER 8
Process #14: STORY APP Priority 03 0% Time 1428 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
Process #15: TXT APP Priority 03 0% Time 1647 Scale 0 | NO_WAIT
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Progressive App Running STOPPED PRTY 0
Play Mik App Running STOPPED PRTY 10
Story Board App Running STOPPED PRTY 0
Text App Running STOPPED PRTY 0
Setup APP Running STOPPED PRTY 0
Current App = Play Mik App Status RUNNING
Message handler 0 = 0
Message handler 1 = 0
Message handler 2 = 0
Message handler 3 = 0
Message handler 4 = 0
Message handler 5 = 0
Message handler 6 = 0
Message handler 7 = 0
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0:C:blo16.FNT h:16 w:8 p:1 memory 2498 type:0 options:0
1:is not used.
2:is not used.
3:is not used.
4:is not used.
5:is not used.
6:is not used.
7:is not used.
8:ERROR.FNT h:6 w:4 p:1 memory 0 type:0 options:0
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entry 1 command 50(0A)
entry 0 command 30(0A)
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Drive A:
MEDIA=2
SECTOR SIZE = 512
SECTOR TOTAL = 16
Drive B:
MEDIA=4
SECTOR SIZE = 512
SECTOR TOTAL = 1792
Drive C:
MEDIA=1
SECTOR SIZE = 512
SECTOR TOTAL = 511
COMMAND -->state2
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00 00 00 03 00 04 00 00 00 02 00 00 00 00 00 14 00 00 00 00 00 E5 B5 00 00
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00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
00 E1 F8 CRC OK
COMMAND -->c:
COMMAND -->dir
Searching Drive C:
W-R- --- CHAR16 .FNT 3822 8-13-99 11:54
W-R- --- CHAR32 .FNT 8633 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- ROM32 .FNT 6533 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- MORF32 .FNT 16409 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- MORF16 .FNT 3665 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- DECO16 .FNT 3794 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- CEN32 .FNT 6936 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- LAP32 .FNT 6785 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- ROT16 .FNT 5126 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- ROT32 .FNT 11433 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- IGT6 .FNT 1164 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- BLO32 .FNT 6120 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- IGT7 .FNT 1284 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- BLO16 .FNT 2592 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- S481 .FNT 7037 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- IGT8 .FNT 1574 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- CHAR8 .FNT 1488 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- FLIP16 .FNT 4099 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- FLIP32 .FNT 13935 1-17-100 16:08
W-R- --- BACKGRND.BAT 55 1-17-100 16:09
W-R- --- DEFAULT .PDF 37 1-17-100 16:09
W-R1 --- DEFAULT .MIK 3457 1-17-100 16:10
22 file(s) found. Totaling 115978 byte(s).
Total of 260 sectors free.
Total of 128960 bytes free.
Total of 250 sectors used.
Total of 128000 bytes used.
COMMAND -->
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http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4971.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=4971.0)
The old site has much more on Supremes check topic above and search there. It has been a long time since I played with them. The displays that you have are standard meters for slot machines. They probably are not what you are looking for. Supreme panels are much larger. The pictures show a small display 1x2 these are much larger.
You do not need the 12v supply.
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Thanks qbert!
So what I need is a different controller to drive the small displays? What would such a controller be called if I was looking for one?
Conversely, what would the appropriate Supreme display panel be called if I was doing a web search for one to suit the logic board I have?
Cheers
Graham
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A regular cham2 will drive your displays with the supreme.
Is your plan to use them in slots or just as display without machines?
If you are interested in the large panel. Rudy has them and for a great price. ( I paid almost $200 bucks for mine 4 years ago)
http://rudysdeals.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=44&product_id=3171 (http://rudysdeals.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=44&product_id=3171)
You will also need power supplies to drive the large panel. One supply for each three panel segments.
I believe Rudy has them also. The large panels do some really cool animations.
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Hi qbert.
I'm just interested in stand-alone display, I don't have any slot machines.
So, to confirm - the regular cham2 is the "non plus" version? Would the "plus" version also be compatible with the Supreme, or are they only for stand-alone operation? Sorry for all the questions.
Thanks for the link to the large panel, the price is great but I have a feeling the shipping to Australia would be a killer! I might ask them to quote me a shipping price all the same.
Cheers
Graham
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Check this topic also http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26206.0 (http://newlifegames.net/nlg/index.php?topic=26206.0)
At the time I was trying to do scrolling messages on my supreme.
Also I believe in Australia Supremes were also called Cycle Stealers if that helps.
Rich