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Coin Comparitors and Other Coin acceptors => Coin Comparitors and Other Coin acceptors => Topic started by: PrincePonk on February 07, 2020, 02:05:00 PM
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I've recently fixed up an IGT S+ (Ten Times Pay) and gotten everything working, everything except the coin comparator that is. The machine came with an X-10 X-Mark Xeptor unit inside. When I purchased the machine the Xeptor wasn't even plugged in, which I realize now was because it's missing the wiring harness between the IGT connector and the Xeptor unit (which plugs into the personality plug?). I'd love to get this wired up (and hopefully working). I took some photos of the Xeptor and the (lack of) wiring harness.
It looks like the Xeptor takes three inputs, and I found a photo in the manual (below) which seems to show a wiring configuration. Can I just make my own harness and wire this to the three pins coming from the IGT MPU?
The three pins coming from the MPU look like this (founded side first):
1. orange wire with light blue stripe
2. two orange wires (combined) with green stripes
3. orange wire with purple stripe
P.S. Is that large chip supposed to be missing?
Thanks!
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It looks like you're missing the software chip (the large empty socket). It would probably be simpler to just install a CC-16 coin comparator. More reliable too because the IDX X-10 can be temperamental when it comes to accepting coins.
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My understanding is that the X10 was designed to be able to accept multiple denominations and add them up to be the appropriate credit denomination. Ie 25pennys would constitute 1 credit on a quarter machine. Or take a Susan B and give 4 credits.
The S+ hopper is not setup to use multiple denominations and may cause coin - out errors or jams if the coin is larger than how the hopper is setup. Secondly the coin-in uses different coin heads (external metal entry chute) that restricts the size of the entry to the appropriate denomination. You could always use the dollar coin head as that is the widest but secondly the ABC optic uses spacers so the coin is passed properly across the optics. Its wider for a nickel and thinner for a dime. Too wide and a coin is not detected, too thin and the coin gets stuck in the chute above the optic and becomes a pain to remove.
I would concur that the CC-16 (quarter sized) or CC-33 (dollar sized) would be a better choice for a comparator.
The one exception that I would consider is that if you are running your machine off of tokens - and have several different series of tokens. The metal properties vary between different series and sometimes are suspect (quality) even within a batch that are supposedly all the same. In my case I have cranked down the sensitivity of the CC-16 to make them all work - I still have about 500 tokens (of about 10,000) that don't work and I have put them off in a ziplock some place. With the X10 you program it for each coin denomination and set the number of credits for each kind of coin. In this case you would program it for valid acceptance of each series of token as they are all physically the same size.
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I’m wondering if they were using this X-10 as a coin acceptor to guide the coin through the coin optic like a standard coin accepter would.
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There is also another accepter which i believe is called: imotech.
Its a manual coin accepter, works on weight and size. You have several set screws that you use to tune it to the coin size.
You need to cut Q4 on the optic to make it work. I think these were used overseas in places like the Dominican where their coins did not conform to any of the european or northamerica sizings. The X10 could have possibly been put into place simply as a coin guide like you have suggested and never wired in.
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Thanks for the info guys. I ended up picking up a CC-16D and harness which has been working well. I think the Xeptor without the chip might just be junk!
Thanks again guys!