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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => Bally Electromechanical => Topic started by: Amechanic on March 08, 2018, 11:34:12 AM
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Starting a new Bally 873 EM service today. I've never seen this Belly glass before. I was just wondering if anyone else had? Was this the name of a cruise ship?
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One of the longest running shows in Las Vegas. I believe it was at the Stardust.
Curious about the Bally model number. If the machine was from the Stardust,
but after all these years, glass does get moved around and or replaced.
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That's a nice piece of classic glass.
DavidLee is correct. That show was at the Stardust. In the early years, Siegfried & Roy were part of the show.
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Well I feel stupid :duh: after taking a picture of the cabinet tag it turns out this is a 1046, not a 873.. To me at first glance this looks like a 5 line 5 coin 873, but the book says a 1046 is a 5 line criss cross. What the hecks the difference?
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Looked up in the reference Jim sent me.
Can you post photo of reel glass.
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Here is a pic of the reel glass and my reel strip numbers.
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Well I seem to have payout issues. I hit a single cherry on reel one and I was paid 7 coins. My wipers are centered on the wiper buttons. Looks like I might have to check if the wipers are install correct. Might be time to start a new thread for repair guidance. :nerd: :Scratch-Head:
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Looked up in the reference Jim sent me.
Can you post photo of reel glass.
David.. I was looking at you photo of the information. Why does it say 3 line pay? It is a fruit machine, that is correct, but my book of the model numbers has it as a 5 line criss cross? Do they mean 3 reel pay?
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First thought, someone put the workings of a 5 line diagonal into that case.
Is it a progressive type with two red arrow jackpots on top?
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No it not. The reel wiper boards and wipers both say 1046. I think the hopper has it on the front too. I took a pic of the feature glass.
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Here are 2 more pics. One of the hopper tag and one of the front of the feature units light board. Both showing 1046 ID. So is the glass correct?
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Gary post a picture of the wiring on the wiper board just for Giggles for me
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Okay, in this case the info I have is not correct. Sorry for any confusion.
So back to the basic problem.
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This photo is a seven coin payout.
2 on the bottom and 5 on the diagonal.
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This photo is a seven coin payout.
2 on the bottom and 5 on the diagonal.
Correct.. That I understand. 2 coins for line 3 and 5 coins for line 4.
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Gary post a picture of the wiring on the wiper board just for Giggles for me
Here you go Jon.
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One more.
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I figured you got the payout, but sometimes if its been awhile since I played this type of machine.
The extra coins takes a minute to register in my brain.
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I figured you got the payout, but sometimes if its been awhile since I played this type of machine.
The extra coins takes a minute to register in my brain.
David, Are the deepest cam cuts always your largest jackpots? Like this machines 7's.. With a 5 line payout, would you install the strips with the 7's on the 5th line paid? I know on a single line game it would be on the only pay line.
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Here
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On a 3 line machine the cuts are at different depths on a jackpot only machine. 3 cuts same length bam jackpot.
Not sure on your machine, its probable a combination of cuts and wiring on the wipers, but not sure. I'd double check with Jon.
I do know the cuts don't very that much in depth. First I would look carefully at the index arm rollers to see if they are not worn out or pin is loose.
Also the index arms, one may be loosened. This could give a false pay. I know that wipers out of adjustment or one finger out of alignment will give a false reading. Have a machine that starts the hopper for a split second due to wipers or a bad roller. Not annoying enough to look in to.
Wipers can be touchy, if you try to align them center on a set of buttons they could be way off at the other end of the board.
Best bet is to average them out of course.
If its only the cherries giving a problem, I would assume everything else is in order. Most machines I've seen the cherries have a wire for the 2 payout and the 5 payout. Could be a short across the two on the wiper board and or maybe on the payout step up unit.
Curious to what you find.
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AM, 873 came out in '69 The 1046 in '75. Reference says it was made for Eastern routes. Also says new hopper. 1045 was a 3 line pay. Not a lot of info on 1046. Curious what the differences really are between 873.
Jim
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I know the information says a 1046 is a 3 line, but this ones a 5 line as is this one found here on NLG..
http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=10875.msg58761#msg58761 (http://newlifegames.com/nlg/index.php?topic=10875.msg58761#msg58761)
This one is setup just like a 873, but everything inside is tagged 1046. If you look at the above post it has different glass then mine does. This one has a complete feature unit.
I was able to correct the over pay by taking the hopper back apart and resoldering three questionable wire on the payout board and cleaning the hopper wiper board. It's back to paying 4 coins on a single cherry on lines 2 & 3 instead of the 7 it was paying.