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**Video Poker, Keno, Slots, 21** Gaming machines => **Video Gaming Machines** **General Chat** => Topic started by: TheDude on December 06, 2022, 12:24:19 PM
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Having 3902 & 044 platforms in the house is great fun. Is adding a G20 or G23 for home use that much more bang for the buck than a 044? I am looking at a G20 machine with 30 poker and 50 slots going for almost the same money as a fresh 044. Never having owned one I am looking for the cons of the G series over it's older counterpart.
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You may think its the same price as a 044 until you find out you need a $400 dollar (average) ekey.
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You may think its the same price as a 044 until you find out you need a $400 dollar (average) ekey.
And another $30 for a 14-21 diag USB drive.
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And $50.00 per button if you want nice bright buttons. X10
Not to mention MLD displays, if you have to replace that ($600.00) your in for a big surprise.
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And $50.00 per button if you want nice bright buttons. X10
Not to mention MLD displays, if you have to replace that ($600.00) your in for a big surprise.
$50 per button whoa!!!
I just paid Ceronix $589 + tax + $97 shipping for a new 17" LCD for my 3902 so that surprise is still fresh in my mind.
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Brand new buttons are like $75ea + and my G23 has 14 of them.
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If you start looking at the variety of games available for the AVP platform (g20/g23), there's a big argument FOR the AVP vs the older 044. To get games for the 044, you have to buy 044 flash boards for each game and you can't have them on at the same time. So the flexibility of the AVP platform as far as games are concerned far outweighs the cost of a key 7 (one time expense if you take care of it), USB Diagnostic drive. The buttons are nice when bright, but the game will work with buttons whose screens are burned out (most of my local casinos just have stickers on top of the buttons to replace what would have been on the oled screens). The LCD replacement cost is high I would agree, but you run the same risk with the 044 platforms anyway, albeit at a lower cost. I have both platforms, but the AVP gets more play simply because it has more variety of games installed. I have about 30 flashboards with games on them and the dev key which makes changing games relatively quick, but not as quick as picking the game off a menu!
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For those kicking around doing their first conversion this is how my numbers are shaping up on this game.
$300 Game King 4.0 17" cabinet 9" top
$683 New Ceronix 17" LCD
$200 6.4 Flash board
$115 Motherboard
$200 MPU
$59 TIT0
$50 Coin Tray
$1607
I'm still deciding on a glass set so that will have to be added as well. The only parts left over from the old game will be the crt, 3902 mpu and glass set. You can find a better deal on some stuff here and there but I think it is a good ballpark figure to work off of. You can find a used lcd, delete the coin tray (where else are you going to put your tickets?), tito or keep your crt. Another thing to consider is that old Game King is pretty cool as it is. I have a 3902 that I will never upgrade because it is a great platform.