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**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games => Topic started by: Brianpg on January 08, 2023, 09:57:26 AM
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So I can’t get passed the 43 tilt. I got a ram clear chip put it in and it did what it was supposed to do 999 put the sp chip back in and got the 65 1 then in goes to 43. I did this because I was stuck on 43 before. I will say they if I turn reel 1 by hand I get 41. Turn reel two by hand 42 but turn reel three by hand I get nothing. If I switch the plugs from 2 to three I get 42 so the board is not seeing reel three I was told to change Q26 on the board so I did but still get 43. And I still can’t get the door to flash between 13. 0. And 13. 1 so I’m using wire just to get it to 13 1. Any help would be great. Thanks
TOPIC MOVED TO IGT S PLUS. NOT SURE WHY IT WAS IN WELCOME WAGON. :Scratch-Head:
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Try Input Test #43 to test the 3rd reel.
Moving the reel with your hand should flip between actve {1} and inactive{0}.
Then try Output Test #24 - Door optics Transmitter.
That test you need to get it to display an active {1} for the door optics to work.
Can I ask? What SP GAME PROM are you playing with?
and did you get a reel code [43] BEFORE you changed the Q26 IC component?
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Yes 43 before changing Q26
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So you normally have a 43 error. When you switched the plugs from 2 to 3 the error changed to a 42 while reel 2's plug was on reel 3. That would indicate the problem is with reel 3 itself and not the MPU or wiring. Normally I'd just swap the reels instead of the plugs to see if the problem moves with the reel or not, but swapping the wiring does the same thing. Replace the reel if you have one and that should fix it.
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still can’t get the door to flash between 13. 0. And 13. 1 so I’m using wire just to get it to 13 1.
I would just hook up that wire you are using to a cherry switch for now to get past a dead receiver cabinet optic.
Sounds like your MPU is giving you problems.
Have you looked underneath down at the pins?
Maybe one is folded over and shorting out against another pin?
Do you have a spare MPU to try?
Again, I will ask you what SP chip are you using?
It would help me in helping you get your machine up and running the way you want by giving the correctly numbered service input/output tests.
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SOOOO!, You have bypassed the optics, from what you describe, original problem is 43 code, it does not clear closing the door, correct,
then when you swap the connectors, number 2 to number 3 and vise versa, then you get a code 42, that tells me you have a problem with the number three reel circuitry on the MPU, it is now seeing a defect in reel two.
since you can verify the reels are active and you get change when moving the reels, you should be able to place reel three in an other location and verify that the reel itself is good.
Hope this helps
Jim
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If I put reel3 in the reel two slot I get 42 so I don’t think it’s the reel
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The error is following the reel, so why would you think the reel is OK?
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If I put reel3 in the reel two slot I get 42 so I don’t think it’s the reel
:scratch-head_3: :scratch-head_2: :duh:
The problem is DEFINITELY following the reel.
I DARE you to put that reel in the left-most number #1 location on the reel shelf. :yes: :cool_thumb_up:
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If I put reel3 in the reel two slot I get 42 so I don’t think it’s the reel
You found the issue! It is a bad reel. Congrats. Easy fix.
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Maybe I did not say it right. It doesn’t matter where I put the reel 1 2 or three in all different places if I turn the key till nothing displays I hand turn reel 1 and get 41. Same thing on reel 2 and get 42 same thing on reel three and get nothing
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Ok. Physically swap reel #3 and reel #2 and let us know what the error code says when it comes up. If it is 42 then the problem is with the reel. If it still says 43 then it's something else.
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It says 43 I ordered a mpu board
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Ok so tried a good mpu board and Q6 started smoking
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Q6 drives the lower (door open) light on the candle. Was it burnt on the other MPU board too? There's probably a short somewhere in the candle wiring. It won't cause a 43 error though. Did that go away or wasn't it on long enough to see?
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I’ll check the candle yes I see a little burn on q6 on the old board.
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OK. There's 7VAC on one side of the upper and lower candle bulbs all the time, and Q6 switches the ground side of it on and off, so it may also have the wrong bulb installed. You could also just unplug the candle for now until you have time to figure it out and see if the new MPU board fixes the 43 error if you want to.
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Ok so did ram clear and it showed 999 like it should put game chip back in and got 61. 1 Close the door and turn key should be 65 but no. Because I still can’t get it to were the door is closed I have changed optos many times and nothing. This is driving me crazy
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Have you checked the alignment? With door open place a piece of painters tape on the side of the cabinet near the optic and make a pencil mark where it is. Next do the same on the side of the door at the optic with the latch all the way down. Now close the door and latch it. Do the lines match each other? If not adjust the optic. Hope this helps
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Yes they r inline
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I asked you in reply #5 if you could clear the 43 code, never did answer, you could replace everything in that machine if you want to, BUT, UNTIL THE DOOR OPTICS ARE WORKING NOTHING WILL WORK!,Just saying!
you said you put a wire to simulate to get 13-1 to work, what happened to that??
you don't need the optics, a cherry switch will work.
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Ok here is where I’m at. New mpu board finally got the door opto to work had to ground the cabinet side for it to work. 13 0. 13. 1 back and forth so I know it is seeing the door closed. Ram clear 61 then 61. 1. 65 1. And still goes to 43 tilt the reels will spin about one symbol and stop if I turn the key to nothing hand turn the first reel 41. Do the same hand turn reel 2 42. Hand turn reel three nothing. I have swapped the reels and the same thing. I’m stuck
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try disconnecting the reels, and close the door, see if you get a 49 code, then, insert one reel connection at a time and see what happens.
check you reel harness for pushed out pins and the connection on the mother board for bend pins.
if reel number three placed in reel number one slot , does it give you the 41 tilt code when you turn it by hand?
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Unplugged all three and got 49. Plug in reel1. 49. Reel two 49. Reel three 43
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And yes if I put reel 3 in reel one I get 41
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Dude, if the problems follows the reel, then the reel is bad period. First you said it did, then you said it didn't, now you say it does. What is it today? And why start a new topic? This should be with your original post.
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I merged the topics.
Tilt is correct.
reel problems that follow the reel point to the reel as the problem.
Thanks,
Wayne
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Ok got the 13 0. 13 1 so door is good still goes right to 43 like I said before if I turn all the reels by hand I get 41 on 1. 42 on two and nothing on 3
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We have been trying to get you to tell us if moving the reel to #1 spot causes 41 instead of 43? If it does then you need to replace that reel.
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Got this and reels would spin like one symbol and stop 43. I’ve done the swap the reels bought a good mpu board ram clear and bv it let me do all that if I turn the jackpot key to where I don’t see anything on display and hand turn reel 1 get 41. Same thing on reel 2 42. Same thing on reel three I get nothing if I take and swap plugs from reel 3 and two and do the sam thing reel three will do 42 and reel two does nothing so it can’t be the reels? The last thing I just tried was I unplugged reel three and got 49 turned the jackpot key till nothing on display and hit the spin reels and reel 1 and 2 spin non stop and yes my door optos work because I can get the 13 O. And 13. 1 back and fourth. I’m stumped
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Ok I got the door optos working but on the cabinet side I had to ground the two green wires to the cabinet for it to work. So I’m getting 13 0. 13. 1. Back and forth. So I’m still getting 43 error when turned on and all three reels only turn one symbol then stop. So if I unplug any of the reels which ever two are still plugged in they will spin and not stop. But if all three are plugged in I still get 43 and only a one symbol turn. Thanks for any help
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41 is reel 1, 42 is reel 2, 43 is reel 3
To test the reel optics - If you move reel three to the first position and the first to the third ?
If you don't have all the reels plugged in your going to get all sorts of weird stuff.
if you move the reels by hand your testing nothing and are likely to cause other error codes you will have to deal with - don't do this.
The reels are just clipped into the metal tray slide it out and swap them.
If the reell optics are bad on the third reel the code will become a 41 instead of a 43.
If it remains at 43 the problem is not your reels.
If its not your reels - and only do this after you have verified that the code does not move.
On the top corner of the MPU board is 5 resistors. Each representing a reel - 3 of them will probably look a bit scorched vs the other 2 which will look pristine.
Anyways if you take one of the pristine resistors and move to the middle (which represents reel 3) this may address your issue. It will not help if your reel optic is bad so do the first test before you start messing with the board.
Just a bit more about the 5 resistors.
The S+ can be a 5 reel system but not common especially in north america.
- To go off on a tangent - To change to a 5 reel system you need a different tray in the middle of the cabinet to hold 5 reels, different reels (slimmer) obviously a different game kit (glass, reels, chips) and a different wiring harness. All of which are hard to find in North America.