**Reel Slots** Gaming Machines => IGT S and S-plus Reel Games => Topic started by: Kooper06 on November 29, 2023, 05:04:31 PM
Title: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on November 29, 2023, 05:04:31 PM
First I’d like to apologize for my lack of knowledge on this topic and machines. This is my first S+ machine that I’ve owned, all of my knowledge is on S2000’s. I have read through the FAQ’s and How to on the top of the S+ forum and have also read several forums that are similar to my topic but not exactly. Here is some information to help you, help me with this issue. - Slot Machine - Ten Times Pay - Game EPROM - SP 731 - Reel EPROM - SS 7846 - Bill Validator - WBA-12-SS - Changed the battery for a 12 Error Code (low battery). Got the 61-1 and was able to reset with the reset and jackpot key. - Status now: - BV will not accept bills but will during a BV test - Did accept 3 coins at a time, now doesn’t accept any.
Settings/test are as follows:
CP window = 0
5-0 6-1 7-0 8-1 (There isn’t a 2 option) 9-1 (Unable to change from 1 to 0) 10-0 (unable to change) 11-0 (Unable to Change) 13-1 16-0 (Unable to Change)
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on November 29, 2023, 05:05:33 PM
Here’s a pic of the Slot machine.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Tilt on November 29, 2023, 05:28:27 PM
Does the insert coin legend light up?
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on November 29, 2023, 07:28:01 PM
The [Insert Coin] lamp does appear to be lit up...it's right behind the coin slot on deck. Something I noticed though, the fact that he can see the bill acceptor tilt mode selection <0>[16] with a SP731 GAME PROM tells me that the bill acceptor is indeed enabled. That page is displayed ONLY if the bill acceptor is enabled. Something else is wrong. He cannot change any settings with the deck buttons, points to something else?
He also has that fricking mechanical bell <0>[6] enabled too! That's going to be noisey!
When he said (There isn’t a 2 option) , he is correct. There's ONLY a zero and a #1 for options. Eveything else, he's "unable to change"
Try this...Watch closely at the [Coins Played] window on the display AS YOU LIFT UP on the door latch handle. Does any number in the [CP] window go out momentarily, then come back on? Watch it as you push down on the door latch too, and let us know what happens. I see that there isn't any number in that window on your display.
One last question for ya...>>> Open the door, turn on the power switch, and put your right fingers/palm on the reelstrips. Push downwards on the reels, do they feel as if they're "stiff", or "loose" as you turn them?
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on November 30, 2023, 06:13:57 AM
I checked the Fiber optics on the door handle. The CP changes from 3 to 0 when I raise the handle.
When I push down on the handle it goes from 3 to blank to 0 until I bump it up a hair and then it goes back to 3.
All the reel strips feel stiff with the power on.
Sorry let me be more specific with the rest of the options.
5-0 (able to change to 5-1,2) 6-1 (able to change to 6-1,0) - Mechanical Bell is off now, LOL 7-0 (able to change to 7-0,1) 8-1 (There isn’t a 2 option but can change to either 0,1) 9-1 (Unable to change from 1 to 0) 10-0 (unable to change) 11-0 (Unable to Change) 13-1 (able to change to 13-1,0) 16-0 (Unable to Change)
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on November 30, 2023, 11:05:30 AM
You might want to change the <5>[zero] to <5>[two] so the wins in credits accumulate to the display. That way the hopper doesn't have to pay out on every hit. When you change it & get out of the programming mode, the lamp in the [Cashout] button should light up. If not, just hit that button once to light up the lamp so you can accumulate credits. If it doesn't light up, check the bulb...it may be burned out.
Allow me to attach a PSR sheet to this Reply for your SP731 GAME PROM chip. Think of the SP chip as the operating system such as Windows 7 or Windows 10. Look at the SS chip as a music CD that you would slide into the car stereo, only this chip stores the programming values for the slot's reel theme that's displayed as glass payout awards, not AC/DC or Aerosmith... :rotfl:
The CP going out briefly when you move the door latch up and down, indicates that door emitter optic & cabinet receiver optics are operational.
However, none of this should effect coin or bill acceptance. With the door closed & when you drop a quarter thru the slot on deck, where does it end up? Back into the coin tray, in the hopper bowl, or down into the drop hole? For the bill validator (BV), re-seat the cashbox firmly. When you close the door, the yellow display bezel over the bill entrance-way should light up - if the bulbs behind it, aren't burned out.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on November 30, 2023, 12:20:57 PM
I changed the 5-0 to the 5-2 and the change light comes on. I reseated the cashbox and the box went through its cycle but the light never came on. I know the light works because when I the input/output test the light illuminated for both. As for the coin it drops into the tray. I had it yesterday where it would except 3 coins but it stopped working. It may have been something that I did but I’m not sure. I know that with it in CP 6 the WP indicates 10 which I assume that’s 10 cents.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: sixcardmark on November 30, 2023, 12:35:40 PM
Use a set15 chip to activate BV and set denom after a battery change.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on November 30, 2023, 01:22:11 PM
Thanks, I reached out to RB because he’s the only one I’ve dealt with for parts for my S2000’s. If he doesn’t have them would you know who else on this site that may? I understand that should activate the BV but the machine is showing a 9-1 in the options page which should be the enable and it passes the input/output test. Also the coin did work for a little bit while I was going through the options but only 3 coins at a time and then it stopped working all together which I thought was very strange and thought it may have been something that I may have done. Again I’m a newbie to these S+ machines and any help/understanding is greatly appreciated!
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: sixcardmark on November 30, 2023, 01:39:05 PM
RB should have what you need.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: off-track on November 30, 2023, 07:43:45 PM
Also the coin did work for a little bit while I was going through the options but only 3 coins at a time and then it stopped working all together which I thought was very strange and thought it may have been something that I may have done.
If it's a 3 coin machine it will only accept (up to) 3 coins until you spin. Is that what you mean or does it not take any coins after a spin?
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: knagl on November 30, 2023, 11:08:56 PM
As for the coin it drops into the tray. I had it yesterday where it would except 3 coins but it stopped working.
Something pretty easy you can try for the coin acceptance is to re-seat your sample coin, and make a quick adjustment to the Coin Comparator to make it less likely to reject coins. See this video:
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on December 02, 2023, 06:45:37 AM
Thanks for tip on adjusting the coin comparator. It’s seems to working fine with coins now. I’m waiting on the set chip for the BV but I’m unsure whether it’s going to fix the problem or not. I say this only because my setting’s for the BV are already 9-1 (enabled) and when I do an input test it takes the bill in and comes back out. I would assume that this means the BV is working? Is there another setting that I may be missing?
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: a69mopar on December 02, 2023, 08:30:10 AM
I would look towards your bill acceptor. If it has older firmware then it won't accept newer bills. It may have the version written on the socketed chip in the bottom if it's a chipped version, or it could be a flash version. I don't want to assume that it's a wba12. Most people look at the number on the front of the bill head, however the transport is really what determines which one Calibration may also help acceptance. There is a thread on making your own Calibration paper.
Thanks, Wayne
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on December 06, 2023, 11:54:30 AM
I received the 015 Set chip from RB and went through and turned the BV off and then back on and changed the denomination to .25. The BV now lights up and takes a bill and spits it right back out. I tried several different bills (old and new) and just spits them back out. Any thoughts were to go from here?
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Jim on December 06, 2023, 04:26:44 PM
I would change your #7 setting, in your first post you said it was at 0100, change it to 1000, next one to 1000 also and the next one to 1000. see if that doesn't fix it.
if not then we can try the stand alone test.
Jim
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: knagl on December 06, 2023, 10:34:07 PM
Also I'll add for testing purposes, use only a $1 bill in good condition. Once you can get it to reliably accept that, you can move on to other denominations.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on December 07, 2023, 07:54:08 AM
I changed all of the <7> settings to 1000 and tried a good $1.00 bill along with 20’s and 10’s and still the same results. It takes the bill in and spits it back out.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: knagl on December 07, 2023, 10:13:52 PM
Does it hold the bill for a second or two before rejecting it, or does it immediately reject it almost as soon as it finishes pulling it in?
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on December 08, 2023, 05:50:16 AM
It holds it for a bit and then rejects it.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Stayouttadabunker on December 08, 2023, 07:21:08 AM
Look :sherlock: in the green square I've drawn onto your photograph. Is there something jammed into the bill head's top cover, or is my eyes playing tricks with me? :scratch-head_2:
Click on photo below to enlarge if needed...>>>
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: knagl on December 08, 2023, 11:14:50 PM
That's usually a sign that the validator is the wrong protocol for the machine (or for the SP chip in use). Does the Insert Coin lamp flash a few times while it's holding the bill in before it rejects it? Again use only a $1 bill in good condition for this testing.
Title: Re: BV & Coin not working after Battery Change
Post by: Kooper06 on December 09, 2023, 07:41:15 AM
LOL, your eyes are not playing tricks on you. That was a screw that had fallen out of the door lock. That’s been long removed. I pulled the BV out a while ago and cleaned it up. As for the Insert coin light flashing while the $1 inserted it stays solid. Prior to the battery change the machine would take bills (although finicky at times). Not sure where to go from here.